Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Vincent Massol]

Hi,

I forgot to propose dates so here’s a proposal from Caty which suits me well:

* 10.7RC1: 20th of Aug
* 10.7 final: 27th og Aug

Thanks
-Vincent

> On 24 May 2018, at 09:34, Vincent Massol  wrote:
> 
> Hi devs,
> 
> We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard these 
> days (not enough people).
> 
> We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than created 
> over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been opened vs 
> created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days. And +49 over 
> 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs (since there are 
> about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
> 
> In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve lost 
> coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails). In 
> short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps without 
> taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an important 
> impact in the future if we don’t react. 
> 
> Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in 
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough 
> but it’ll help a lot.
> 
> Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this proposal.
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Marius Dumitru Florea]

+1

Thanks,
Marius

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Vincent Massol  wrote:

> Hi devs,
>
> We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard these
> days (not enough people).
>
> We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than
> created over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been
> opened vs created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days.
> And +49 over 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs
> (since there are about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
>
> In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve
> lost coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails).
> In short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps
> without taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an
> important impact in the future if we don’t react.
>
> Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough
> but it’ll help a lot.
>
> Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this
> proposal.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Clément Aubin]

+1

Thanks,
Clément

On 05/24/2018 10:48 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
> +1
> 
> Thanks,
> Eduard
> 
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Thomas Mortagne > wrote:
> 
>> +1
>>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Vincent Massol 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard
>> these days (not enough people).
>>>
>>> We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than
>> created over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been
>> opened vs created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days.
>> And +49 over 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs
>> (since there are about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
>>>
>>> In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve
>> lost coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails).
>> In short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps
>> without taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an
>> important impact in the future if we don’t react.
>>>
>>> Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in
>> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough
>> but it’ll help a lot.
>>>
>>> Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this
>> proposal.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Mortagne
>>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Eduard Moraru]

+1

Thanks,
Eduard

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Thomas Mortagne  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Vincent Massol 
> wrote:
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard
> these days (not enough people).
> >
> > We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than
> created over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been
> opened vs created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days.
> And +49 over 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs
> (since there are about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
> >
> > In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve
> lost coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails).
> In short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps
> without taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an
> important impact in the future if we don’t react.
> >
> > Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough
> but it’ll help a lot.
> >
> > Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this
> proposal.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Guillaume Delhumeau]

+1

2018-05-24 10:20 GMT+02:00 Thomas Mortagne :

> +1
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Vincent Massol 
> wrote:
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard
> these days (not enough people).
> >
> > We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than
> created over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been
> opened vs created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days.
> And +49 over 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs
> (since there are about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
> >
> > In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve
> lost coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails).
> In short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps
> without taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an
> important impact in the future if we don’t react.
> >
> > Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough
> but it’ll help a lot.
> >
> > Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this
> proposal.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Mortagne
>



-- 
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Thomas Mortagne]

+1

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Vincent Massol  wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard these 
> days (not enough people).
>
> We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than created 
> over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been opened vs 
> created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days. And +49 over 
> 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs (since there are 
> about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
>
> In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve lost 
> coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails). In 
> short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps without 
> taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an important 
> impact in the future if we don’t react.
>
> Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in 
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough 
> but it’ll help a lot.
>
> Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this proposal.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent



-- 
Thomas Mortagne

Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)]

+1

Thanks,
Caty

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Vincent Massol  wrote:

> Hi devs,
>
> We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard these
> days (not enough people).
>
> We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than
> created over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been
> opened vs created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days.
> And +49 over 120 days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs
> (since there are about 1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).
>
> In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve
> lost coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails).
> In short this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps
> without taking enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an
> important impact in the future if we don’t react.
>
> Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in
> August) on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough
> but it’ll help a lot.
>
> Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this
> proposal.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent

[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] XS 10.7 roadmap on BFD+Test

[Vincent Massol]

Hi devs,

We’re having a tough time maintaining the quality of XWiki Standard these days 
(not enough people).

We used to be able to contain bugs and have as many bugs closed than created 
over 1600 days. We’ve now slipped back to 330+ bugs that have been opened vs 
created over 1600 days. +116 over 500 days. +96 over 365 days. And +49 over 120 
days. BFD days have little impact with that many bugs (since there are about 
1-2 devs participating to XS’s BFDs).

In addition I’ve measure our Test Coverage since end of 2017 and we’ve lost 
coverage compared to before which is really bad (see my other emails). In short 
this means that we’re hurrying to finish work from the roadmaps without taking 
enough time to write the proper tests. This will have an important impact in 
the future if we don’t react. 

Thus I’d like to propose that we spend the XS 10.7 roadmap (1 month in August) 
on bug fixing and writing more tests. It’ll probably not be enough but it’ll 
help a lot.

Let me know if someone has a counter-proposal or an issue with this proposal.

Thanks
-Vincent