Re: [DDN] GETS NUDGE FOR IT'S SUCCESS!
I have been observing the DDN as a member since 3-19-05, You are doing a great job of bringing together and creating a forum for professionals at all levels in their careers. The opportunity for dialog between technical and non-technical internet professionals as well as educators, scientists, artists, politicians, young and experienced in all countries is such a dynamic wealth of knowledge. The exponential opportunity for networking is clearly phenomenal. This is a place for all cultures and interests. We may speak different languages, but we are united by our inclusion interests. Your search engine Meta tags are also right at the top of the listing for almost all of the crawlers. As a creative thinker, it is grand scale to find such a body of scientific professionals who are willing to share knowledge and interests. Where else can you see this? I am equally impressed with members who are such effective communicators and motivators, such as Phil Shapiro, who works so hard to promote the contributions all members. Andy Carvin, who keeps it all working, must have at least 10 arms on the key board at all times, how do you manage this? This is one of the most impressive uses of the internet to date. DDN along with its partnership building relationships is a part of the beginnings of the positive power inherit in internet technology. I love to give credit when credit is due. Keep up the good work. Thank you. Sandra Benson Graffiti House Project ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Technology Blackout Day
Ok. This is a very powerful point Bonnie... You've nailed it, because; I believe that many well meaning people do not really understand how to address the needs of poor or disadvantaged people in the digital divide. Communicating what the real true issues are can be alarmingly difficult to explain to people who have not originated from or had extensive experience in the reality issues of these communities. And as Cindy said, this is by no means meant to down grade the issues or the situation in Africa. The reality is that if we really want to help. We've got to investigate the realities of how to present and customize the packaging of this technology. What works in one impoverished area, will not necessarily work in another. There will not be any one technology, which will work for all situations. But of course, we realize this is a part of why the divide is such a complicated issue. This means that perhaps some of the power of what needs to be done will have to be entrusted to a community source level. Some of the issues of disadvantaged people can only be seen as the tip of the iceberg. The underlying issues need to be addressed before there can be any healing under the Band-Aid. Sandra B - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] Technology Blackout Day In a message dated 3/28/05 9:06:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are people in Africa that do not have running water or flush toilets. There are native Americans and poor people in rural areas that do not have running water or flush toilets in America. Did i mention no phones either? Bonnie Bracey bbracey at aol com ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Digital Inclusion Question
Due diligence and education with lots of financial resources. Sandra Benson - Original Message - From: "Raymond -Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Digital Divide Network discussion group'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:00 AM Subject: [DDN] Digital Inclusion Question I would like to propose a question to the group. What would it take to solve the digital divide here in America and abroad if the resources were available. Please keep in mind, I don't see digital inclusion as merely making access to technology available, I define it as having the majority of the country effective users. By the way, loved the Airplane analogy mentioned the other day. Raymond Waynick ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] The real digital divide (fwd)
I'm kind of new to this network. Not that this matters. I'm with you John until you said lazy high school students. Can we really say that their being lazy is the problem? In some communities I know that there are a lack of available role models and inspiration. Teacher can't do it all. I can guarantee you that the people in these areas that you are using as examples, did not get motivated without some focused guidance. I agree with what you said about the opportunities for less expensive training on the net. I does though, take some doing to get people who are focused on survival in the streets to understand the exponential possibilities of information intelligence. When it comes to the digital divide, we need to focus on the source. I also like what Andy said about different solutions for different situations. For instance, in the American inner, cell phones and other type of digital toys are fairly ineffective in reaching the youth populations and making sure that once they are trained that the jobs are there for them. Many of the high school students are not lazy, many are just misguided. Unfortunately, the violence and gun play in cities such as Philadelphia makes it difficult to reach the very people who need a bridge through the Digital Divide. They are the stigmatized form both directions because they are being caught in the cross hairs. It's very sad that unfortunately this is the problem is alive and kicking right here the most digitally progressive county. What do you think about that? Like or not. Sandra - Original Message - From: "John Hibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Digital Divide Network discussiongroup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] The real digital divide (fwd) At 4:27 AM + 3/12/05, Cindy Lemcke-Hoong wrote: One reason is, as a labourer, you don't need to know too much reading. Just pure muscle. And miserable lives. I saw that in China, Singapore (that was in the 80s, where foreign workers from Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia lived in deplorable conditions as compared to the local. The Malaysian faired better since their home is only a hop away ...), now in Malaysia ... While we frequently talk about greater access to education and training as a result of the Net and cheaper access to it -- all of which is true -- we really don't concentrate very hard on the talking more about promoting *work* opportunities as a result of the new connectivity. I don't know why this is because the examples are many that this kind of thing is well underway; (India's India's call centers -- coupled to the complaint by wealthy nation employees that their job was outsourced). (What is one man's poison is another man's potion.) It is not a terribly long step to believe that relatively simple typing skills by Bengali's can lead to data processing jobs from Boston -- along the lines of what the Irish have done for New England insurance companies for two or three decades. "Outsourcing" has just begun. In full bloom, 30, 40, 50 years from now, it will mean tele-commuting -- probably from telecenters with all the latest and greatest equipment, with the labor force coming from that same pool that Cindy came from...except what will count most is brain power, not muscle power. Final note: All this means today's American college and high school graduate had best get off their lazy butts and realize what the REAL competition is going to do to their job situation. -- John W. Hibbs < http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
