Re: D plugin for IntelliJ IDEA?
I used Visual D when I looked at D some months ago. Visual D is not so bad, but doesn't work with Visual Studio Express and the full Version of Visual Studio does cost a bit of money... don't forget that visual d and all its features work with the visual studio shells which are available for free. no need for the express or full versions.
Re: Incomprehensible compiler errors
How can I write a GUI? as i understand gtkD is actively maintained and even already prepared for the next dmd release version 2.060. https://github.com/gtkd-developers/GtkD
Re: std.variant benchmark
https://jshare.johnshopkins.edu/rjacque2/public_html/variant.mht https://jshare.johnshopkins.edu/rjacque2/public_html/variant.d
Re: D versionning
food for thought: http://semver.org/
Re: Any progress in std.database?
Steve Teale began some work his api design and a first implementation for mysql is available on his site: http://britseyeview.com/software/mysqld/
Re: clear() and UFCS
Now I don't have a good name. Finalize isn't right, and neither is dispose... what about "invalidate"?
Re: GitHub for Windows
No it doesn't. The "skin" is like XP, but all the behavior is still the same Win7 stuff. It's still Windows Dock, just with more grey and straight edges. i seem to miss something crucial here. i have a win xp and win 7 machine in front of me this very moment. the quicklaunch buttons on the win 7 desktop behave a bit differently and some icons in the tray are hidden within a popup panel to save space. another difference is you see a list of instances of the same running application when you hover over a button in the taskbar. other than that i don't notice any differences in look and behaviour. especially nothing that makes me hate win 7 compared to win xp. i still favour xp for other reasons though.
Re: GitHub for Windows
We don't want Like buttons and similar. That's why we use newsgroups, mailing lists and so on. That similes are displayed as images (in Thunderbird at least) is almost too much. :) i've never seen smilies in mails or ng posts using thunderbird. dunno. i guess i turned it off ages ago.
Re: GitHub for Windows
And Vista doesn't pop-up tons of shit everytime the pointer gets near the bottom of the screen. I'd never be able to get any work done if I had (barely-distinguishable) mini-screenshots constantly popping up to "help" me all time like Win7 loves to do. just turn aero off. the win 7 desktop then looks and behaves very similar to xp.
Re: Growing pains
They are caused by a significant growth spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. a possible solution could include to encourage more people on this newsgroup to learn how to quote. :)
Re: D Compiler as a Library
If it will be decided to change the license, please pay attention to how should programmers apply the license to source and header files: or do it the way it is done in phobos.
Re: What about x64 windows?
https://bitbucket.org/goshawk/gdc/downloads you are going to need this, too: http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/
The Downfall of Imperative Programming
i guess this might be of interest to some. http://fpcomplete.com/the-downfall-of-imperative-programming/ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/s112h/the_downfall_of_imperative_programming_functional/
Re: Dirrlicht & C.
What about other 3d engines ports like ogre3d? there are bindings for http://www.horde3d.org/ available.
Re: indent style for D
Ever heard of any one having such a tool? http://golang.org/cmd/gofmt/
Re: [OT] "The Condescending UI" (was: Do we need Win95/98/Me support?)
YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball, marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things? you both are not alone. i'm also a trackball user for 11 years now. atm i have a logitech trackman on my desk but owned one of those billiard balls in the past, too.
Re: Could we use something better than zip for the dmd package?
The ftp is not the fastest one and 7z reduces the size by 40%. *+1* on desktop i'm mostly a windows guy and since the days of windows 95 my first step after a clean system setup has been always to install a 3rd party file archiver utility. i remember it was winzip in the beginning, shortly after replaced by winrar. i used those archivers until i discovered a file manager (and norton commander clone) named total commander which supports most common compression formats. instead of the windows explorer i use this piece of software for about a decade now. i haven't known that windows supports the zip format out of the box until i read about it here today! when i take a look at my "downloads/dev/" folder (which contains mostly compressed source code) i see a majority of zip archives, followed by tar.gz, bz2 and then 7z. the rar format was once known as the optimum for compressing multimedia files and was and is still used a lot for (illegal) file sharing. however rar is starting to become replaced by 7z in the latter use case and will be the de facto standard for compressing big files (GB) in the near future. i use 7z myself for backups for a couple of years now and if i have the choice i will always download 7z first, in absence look for tgz and choose zip always last if there's nothing else available. yes, i might be old fashioned and i'm pretty aware that both ram and disk space is cheap but shouldn't we (developers and engineers) also be at the forefront to push and introduce new technologies? isn't this even our collective responsibility? choice is good. let's make as much formats as download available as possible and let the user decide. the download statistics might be a surprise for some people.
Re: CURL Wrapper: Vote Thread
The time has come to vote on the inclusion of Jonas Drewsen's CURL wrapper in Phobos. yes.
Re: D1 to be discontinued on December 31, 2012
http://store.steampowered.com/app/18600/?snr=1_200_200_254_13 does anybody know if and when how this game makes use of the steamworks framework, which is a c++ library provided by valve for using the steam game services. the only solution would be to write a plain c wrapper around it, right?
Re: d-programming-language.com
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/d-programming-language.org/pull/46 looking forward to try this out. thanks for your work.
Re: d-programming-language.com
I didn't think anyone preferred chm over web pages anymore! personally i prefer chm > pdf > web for technical documentations and ebooks on the desktop.
Re: d-programming-language.com
There should be a .chm in the distribution +1
Re: d-programming-language.com
v2.055 to v2.056 v2.055 to v2.057b
Re: d-programming-language.com
I think dman didn't get updated properly on that platform. It does work properly on Windows. obviously i'm missing something here. within the downloaded archives for v2.055 to v2.056 i can only find binaries of dman for freebsd, linux and osx but not for windows. :/
Re: What can be done to reduce executable size?
On Windows: v1.071 = 339 Kb v2.056 = 1017 Kb v2.057b= 840 kb (upx --best = 151 kb)
Re: Java > Scala
I see. BTW, do you have an examples? entertainment software like media players. and interestingly enough tools for artists often come with non-native guis. e.g. 3d modeler applications (like autodesk maya, blender, luxology modo), pixologic zbrush, adobe after effects, the foundry nuke, ableton live. it almost seems like developers of those applications believe traditional native guis interfere with creativity or are unsuitable for creative workflows.
Re: Java > Scala
I assume you're on some sort of 10GB multi-core machine as most Java users have to be on, in which case: 12 sec startup is ridiculously slow. Even on 2GB x64 dual-core, that's still very, very slow. just to throw some numbers in. out of curiosity i have done a fresh install of eclipse on an 2GB, 3ghz, dual core, x86, windows xp sp3. starting up and opening an empty project takes about 4 sec with eclipse. in comparison visual d (plugin for visual studio shell 2008) starts immediately without any noticeable delay.
Re: RFC curl
Anyone have an opinion about this? i mean no disrespect to the work you have invested. i like the new api and looking forward to use it, but isn't the integration of curl into phobos a kind of placeholder until somebody finally implements std.net.http, std.net.ftp, etc.? i really believe high or low level wrapper code around 3rd party libraries shouldn't "pollute" the std.* namespace and stay in etc.* or maybe end up in a new package like lib.*, external.* or extra.*. mirko
Re: Software architecture support in D.
* State machines. http://www.complang.org/ragel/
Re: Free?
GPL: "Free as in Herpes" personally i prefer bsd style licenses but the gpl has its right to exist. and while bsd ensures freedom for developers, the gpl is more targeted at users. it's a kind of politic statement and i understand the gnu project as an "user rights moverment". please let this thread not turn into another bsd vs gpl flame war.
Re: Development environment
I've yet to see a single worthwhile IDE for D. http://dsource.org/projects/visuald
Re: The CAPI Manifesto
Unless CAPI is trademarked, I think we're in good shape. when i hear of CAPI i instantly think of this: http://www.capi.org/pages/home.php
Re: Dee-sign patterns.
If and when the proposal to extend the official website passes, I'll post the results there, otherwise, I'll post it somewhere else and give the link. why don't you add it to the already existing wiki? http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?BestPractices
Re: How to Design a Good API and Why it Matters
anyone has any other good API design resources to share. http://www.amazon.com/API-Design-C-Martin-Reddy/dp/0123850037
Re: What library functionality would you most like to see in D?
I'm new to D, but I guess I might be able to develop some sort of configuration file library (supporting reading and writing values etc.). Do you guys have some sort of preferences or should I just go with standard INI files? maybe boost::property_tree could be of some inspiration here: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_47_0/doc/html/property_tree.html
Re: D users on Google+
I don't know If now there a method to make proper groups in Google+ i would guess https://groups.google.com/ will take this place. mirko
Re: D users on Google+
Done many thanx, added you to my dpl circle.
Re: D users on Google+
i would join right away if somebody has an invitation left by any chance. mirko
Re: GitHub or dsource?
google code is a good choice if you prefer mercurial. http://code.google.com/projecthosting/
