Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:31:18 +0200, BLS wrote: JPF wrote: BLS wrote: c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature. I don't know how complicated that would be (licensing issues, ...), but as a developer / user I would really like it: It's needed to implement stuff like addins in a convenient way. And it would be great if we could finally use statically loaded shared libraries instead of static compilation of everything (I guess that needs compiler integration, so it's a good reason to include DDL with dmd ;-)). Also, if you look at http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/dll.html#Dcode the current way to do D DLLs for use with D code is not very developer friendly. Exporting flat functions like getMyClass just doesn't feel right. Now compare that with DDLs features: http://www.dsource.org/projects/ddl/wiki/AboutDDL .DDL clearly wins. By the way, I guess most of you know that already, but http://h3.team0xf.com/devlog/?p=12 has an updated version of DDL with a new linker. I can hear you , but it seems that we are pretty alone. License ? I'm all for it.
Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
BLS wrote: JPF wrote: BLS wrote: c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature. I don't know how complicated that would be (licensing issues, ...), but as a developer / user I would really like it: It's needed to implement stuff like addins in a convenient way. And it would be great if we could finally use statically loaded shared libraries instead of static compilation of everything (I guess that needs compiler integration, so it's a good reason to include DDL with dmd ;-)). Also, if you look at http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/dll.html#Dcode the current way to do D DLLs for use with D code is not very developer friendly. Exporting flat functions like getMyClass just doesn't feel right. Now compare that with DDLs features: http://www.dsource.org/projects/ddl/wiki/AboutDDL .DDL clearly wins. By the way, I guess most of you know that already, but http://h3.team0xf.com/devlog/?p=12 has an updated version of DDL with a new linker. I can hear you , but it seems that we are pretty alone. DDL showed signs of offering a proper reflection library. I'm drooling a bit over the possibility.
Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:31:18 +0200, BLS wrote: I can hear you , but it seems that we are pretty alone. I can see the benefits from this, doesn't silence on these boards generally mean agreement? :)
Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
JPF wrote: BLS wrote: c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature. I don't know how complicated that would be (licensing issues, ...), but as a developer / user I would really like it: It's needed to implement stuff like addins in a convenient way. And it would be great if we could finally use statically loaded shared libraries instead of static compilation of everything (I guess that needs compiler integration, so it's a good reason to include DDL with dmd ;-)). Also, if you look at http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/dll.html#Dcode the current way to do D DLLs for use with D code is not very developer friendly. Exporting flat functions like getMyClass just doesn't feel right. Now compare that with DDLs features: http://www.dsource.org/projects/ddl/wiki/AboutDDL .DDL clearly wins. By the way, I guess most of you know that already, but http://h3.team0xf.com/devlog/?p=12 has an updated version of DDL with a new linker. I can hear you , but it seems that we are pretty alone. License ? The compiler deps stuff is coming out of the same developer house... ...without trouble.. ... now DMD comes along with such a license MIX nobody really understands but W. insist that everything else has to be public domain. That stinks
Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
BLS Wrote: JPF wrote: BLS wrote: c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature. I don't know how complicated that would be (licensing issues, ...), but as a developer / user I would really like it: It's needed to implement stuff like addins in a convenient way. And it would be great if we could finally use statically loaded shared libraries instead of static compilation of everything (I guess that needs compiler integration, so it's a good reason to include DDL with dmd ;-)). Also, if you look at http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/dll.html#Dcode the current way to do D DLLs for use with D code is not very developer friendly. Exporting flat functions like getMyClass just doesn't feel right. Now compare that with DDLs features: http://www.dsource.org/projects/ddl/wiki/AboutDDL .DDL clearly wins. By the way, I guess most of you know that already, but http://h3.team0xf.com/devlog/?p=12 has an updated version of DDL with a new linker. I can hear you , but it seems that we are pretty alone. I didn't want to say much but I actually would like this a lot. I can't see how this will negatively effect anything else unlike language features so it is kind of on the level of the patch for build tools integrated in 2.031 IIRC. I guess if someone other than Walter could do the development then he probably wouldn't mind applying the patches.
Re: DDL should become official part of DMD
BLS wrote: c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature. I don't know how complicated that would be (licensing issues, ...), but as a developer / user I would really like it: It's needed to implement stuff like addins in a convenient way. And it would be great if we could finally use statically loaded shared libraries instead of static compilation of everything (I guess that needs compiler integration, so it's a good reason to include DDL with dmd ;-)). Also, if you look at http://www.digitalmars.com/d/1.0/dll.html#Dcode the current way to do D DLLs for use with D code is not very developer friendly. Exporting flat functions like getMyClass just doesn't feel right. Now compare that with DDLs features: http://www.dsource.org/projects/ddl/wiki/AboutDDL .DDL clearly wins. By the way, I guess most of you know that already, but http://h3.team0xf.com/devlog/?p=12 has an updated version of DDL with a new linker.
DDL should become official part of DMD
c topic.. what do you think ? IMO : this could be a D killer feature.
