Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 22:25:29 UTC, rumbu wrote: I started some C# to D stuff here: https://github.com/rumbu13/sharp/blob/master/cstod.md Unfortunately, I cannot edit directly on wiki.dlang.org since my account is not confirmed (confirmation e-mail is not sent despite several attempts). Thank you for your great contribution, I started porting from github to wiki here http://wiki.dlang.org/Programming_in_D_for_CSharp_Programmers
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 22:25:29 UTC, rumbu wrote: Unfortunately, I cannot edit directly on wiki.dlang.org since my account is not confirmed (confirmation e-mail is not sent despite several attempts). By any chance, do you use gmail? The email sent by the wiki appeared in my gmail's spam.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Friday, 3 April 2015 at 01:59:15 UTC, Freddy wrote: On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 22:25:29 UTC, rumbu wrote: Unfortunately, I cannot edit directly on wiki.dlang.org since my account is not confirmed (confirmation e-mail is not sent despite several attempts). By any chance, do you use gmail? The email sent by the wiki appeared in my gmail's spam. Yes, I use gmail, but the domain name is the same as my current username here. I requested again to send confirmation e-mail, no success so far.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 22:25:29 UTC, rumbu wrote: I started some C# to D stuff here: https://github.com/rumbu13/sharp/blob/master/cstod.md Forgot semicolon in hello world example. Anyway, I'm already asking for help from experienced D users to translate the following concepts in D: - decimal type I heard, there was an implementation of a scaled integer and a rational type. - dynamic types No exact equivalent, opDispatch is similar, but is compile-time. - volatile atomicLoad, atomicStore - boxing/unboxing Variant - multicast delegates - events std.signals (needs rewrite) - yield return input/output ranges - P/Invoke Not really needed for native languages, because they interface with the platform directly. Well, there are utilities like tempCString. - async/await vibe addresses the same problem http://code.dlang.org/packages/vibe-d - linq std.algorithm, std.range, std.array - runtime reflection Nothing builtin, D relies more on compile-time reflection. - serialization http://wiki.dlang.org/Libraries_and_Frameworks#Serialization - inlining only http://wiki.dlang.org/DIP56 - weak references To be implemented in druntime - implicit casting overload Not supported deliberately, as I understand it - COM imports There was some attempt at COM integration, not sure how far it has gone. AFAIK, COM can expose interface as IDispatch, that would save one from parsing the type library manually. - templated functions override Done by redirecting templated function to non-templated one. I'm not asking for solutions (because I know how to implement them in D), I'm asking for guidance about the best D semantics to be used instead. Do things at compile time, allocate as little as possible, in other words, be efficient.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 08:36:00 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2015-03-31 04:18, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Thanks for this initiative. It would be indeed awesome if this got a bit more attention. Once we get the portal fleshed out, we can promote the link to the homepage. One note about Walter's older C/C++ transition articles. They have good information on transition technicalities (e.g. how do I do this thing in D that I used to do in C++?) but not a lot about the changes in coding style - making object copying not arbitrarily expensive, choosing struct vs. class, preferring pipelines and lazy to eager computation, etc. From what I see some folks come from C++, write their first D program in a stilted C++ idiom, and are left with the impression that the work is not worth the trouble. I could add something for Ruby but I'm not really sure what to add. The the content for the existing languages is quite different compared with each other. This is a wiki, so do it the way you want. Personnaly for the Delphi/Pascal section i haven't followed any previous model (except for the `pascal way` or the D way`) but i've rather choosen to focus on ambiguities and similarities... Just do it and if someone comes with a better solution he can delete everything. It'a wiki.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On 2015-03-31 04:18, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Thanks for this initiative. It would be indeed awesome if this got a bit more attention. Once we get the portal fleshed out, we can promote the link to the homepage. One note about Walter's older C/C++ transition articles. They have good information on transition technicalities (e.g. how do I do this thing in D that I used to do in C++?) but not a lot about the changes in coding style - making object copying not arbitrarily expensive, choosing struct vs. class, preferring pipelines and lazy to eager computation, etc. From what I see some folks come from C++, write their first D program in a stilted C++ idiom, and are left with the impression that the work is not worth the trouble. I could add something for Ruby but I'm not really sure what to add. The the content for the existing languages is quite different compared with each other. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
Personnaly for the Delphi/Pascal section i haven't followed any previous model (except for the `pascal way` or the D way`) but i've rather choosen to focus on ambiguities and similarities... BTW - respect for doing this. Will try to learn from what you have done. When these pages are mature, maybe they should be linked from the front page sidebar. Laeeth.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 23:21:20 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: http://wiki.dlang.org/Coming_From These sections are empty/close to empty: Ruby / Java / Eiffel / C# / and Basic I made a small start on the Python section. It needs more concrete side-by-side examples of translating Python idioms into D, but that is all I can do for now. I started some C# to D stuff here: https://github.com/rumbu13/sharp/blob/master/cstod.md Unfortunately, I cannot edit directly on wiki.dlang.org since my account is not confirmed (confirmation e-mail is not sent despite several attempts). Anyway, I'm already asking for help from experienced D users to translate the following concepts in D: - decimal type - dynamic types - volatile - boxing/unboxing - multicast delegates - events - yield return - P/Invoke - async/await - linq - runtime reflection - serialization - inlining - weak references - implicit casting overload - COM imports - templated functions override I'm not asking for solutions (because I know how to implement them in D), I'm asking for guidance about the best D semantics to be used instead.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 at 22:25:29 UTC, rumbu wrote: On Sunday, 29 March 2015 at 23:21:20 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: http://wiki.dlang.org/Coming_From These sections are empty/close to empty: Ruby / Java / Eiffel / C# / and Basic I made a small start on the Python section. It needs more concrete side-by-side examples of translating Python idioms into D, but that is all I can do for now. I started some C# to D stuff here: https://github.com/rumbu13/sharp/blob/master/cstod.md Unfortunately, I cannot edit directly on wiki.dlang.org since my account is not confirmed (confirmation e-mail is not sent despite several attempts). Great - let me know if you want me to add something when ready. There must be a markup to wiki converter somewhere. Anyway, I'm already asking for help from experienced D users to translate the following concepts in D: I'm not asking for solutions (because I know how to implement them in D), I'm asking for guidance about the best D semantics to be used instead. I will let someone else who knows better help.
Re: Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
On 3/29/15 4:21 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote: http://wiki.dlang.org/Coming_From These sections are empty/close to empty: Ruby / Java / Eiffel / C# / and Basic I made a small start on the Python section. It needs more concrete side-by-side examples of translating Python idioms into D, but that is all I can do for now. Thanks for this initiative. It would be indeed awesome if this got a bit more attention. Once we get the portal fleshed out, we can promote the link to the homepage. One note about Walter's older C/C++ transition articles. They have good information on transition technicalities (e.g. how do I do this thing in D that I used to do in C++?) but not a lot about the changes in coding style - making object copying not arbitrarily expensive, choosing struct vs. class, preferring pipelines and lazy to eager computation, etc. From what I see some folks come from C++, write their first D program in a stilted C++ idiom, and are left with the impression that the work is not worth the trouble. Andrei
Filling out the wiki - D as a second language
http://wiki.dlang.org/Coming_From These sections are empty/close to empty: Ruby / Java / Eiffel / C# / and Basic I made a small start on the Python section. It needs more concrete side-by-side examples of translating Python idioms into D, but that is all I can do for now.
