Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-23 Thread Marco Leise via Digitalmars-d
Am Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:47:13 +1000
schrieb Manu via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com:

 On 22 April 2014 19:00, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
 digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
  On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
 
  I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
  I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
  email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)

I feel quite the opposite. Recently my email provider lured me
into some paid option by cleverly placing a buy option right
after the login where you expect some inbox button.
With a client software you know what you have. Things don't
unexpectedly change. You can have your messages on your
computer and don't depend on internet and server uptime.
Well, I'd say that about any cloud service I guess.

  Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much
  better.
 
 Yeah sorry. I could never tell the difference. Since it's not a full
 client, it doesn't have features like raw-view or anything.

If posts actually contain something that cannot be represented
in plain text I don't mind some HTML. All posts load quickly
in Claws Mail anyways, regardless of mime-type. It's just not
so exciting to view the very same text message with a
non-default font. :p

-- 
Marco



Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-22 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d

On 04/17/2014 05:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

 This is very very annoying.

Also, I don't think the From field is the right place for the 
information of where the message was sent from.


Ali



Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-22 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d

On Tuesday, 22 April 2014 at 04:54:44 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with 
the ntp server. I'm
still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not 
alone in seeing this one.


Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use 
it.


I've actually attempted at it, but I'm a little bit newbyish with 
newsgroups. Really could use a proper tutorial on this subject.


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-22 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:

I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)


Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much better.



Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-22 Thread Regan Heath via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 22:32:31 +0100, Steven Schveighoffer  
schvei...@yahoo.com wrote:


On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:29:47 -0400, Nick Sabalausky  
seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote:



On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

Every time I open one of these messages I
get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
(hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.



Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.


But it only happens on these messages that come via Digitamars-d, and  
consistently so. What could be the difference.


I've used this newsreader for years (opera), never had this problem.


Opera on windows does not suffer from the same issue.  I see no delays for  
these messages..


R

--
Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-22 Thread Manu via Digitalmars-d
On 22 April 2014 19:00, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 10:49 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:

 I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
 I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
 email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)


 Congrats on fixing it so it doesn't send the html version! This is much
 better.

Yeah sorry. I could never tell the difference. Since it's not a full
client, it doesn't have features like raw-view or anything.


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-21 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 08:51:33 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer  
schvei...@yahoo.com wrote:


This is very very annoying. Every time I open one of these messages I  
get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball  
(hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.


Whatever this is, can we get rid of it?


another side-effect: no threading is occurring on d.bugs on my newsreader.  
It used to thread these messages properly.


For some reason, the long pauses have gone away.

-Steve


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-21 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 4/17/2014 8:56 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well.
Most notably for Manu's posts.


I noticed for a while now that Manu's posts are very large, even though there 
aren't that many lines of text in them. Examining the posting source shows that 
the content of Manu's posts are repeated, once in HTML and once in plain text.


Perhaps the delay is because your newsreader is trying to load an HTML rendering 
engine for Manu's posts, which it would not for regular text ones.


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-21 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d

On Monday, 21 April 2014 at 23:07:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 4/17/2014 8:56 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well.
Most notably for Manu's posts.


I noticed for a while now that Manu's posts are very large, 
even though there aren't that many lines of text in them. 
Examining the posting source shows that the content of Manu's 
posts are repeated, once in HTML and once in plain text.


Perhaps the delay is because your newsreader is trying to load 
an HTML rendering engine for Manu's posts, which it would not 
for regular text ones.


I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the 
ntp server. I'm still relying on the web interface. So I'm 
definitely not alone in seeing this one.


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-21 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the ntp server. I'm
still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not alone in seeing this 
one.


Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use it.


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-21 Thread Manu via Digitalmars-d
On 22 April 2014 14:54, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote:
 On 4/21/2014 8:59 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

 I still haven't worked out how to even use a newsreader with the ntp
 server. I'm
 still relying on the web interface. So I'm definitely not alone in seeing
 this one.


 Thunderbird is a very good newsreader. A lot of folks here use it.

I tried it for a bit. Couldn't get used to it. It just felt like an
inconvenience.
I'm sure it's great, it's just unfamiliar to me, and it feels a bit
over-kill installing a whole big software package for no reason other
than reading one mailing list.

I like gmail. I've been using it for the better part of 10 years, and
I can access it from anywhere. Installing client software to read
email feels like I'm back on my Amiga in the 90's ;)


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-17 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:29:47 -0400, Nick Sabalausky  
seewebsitetocontac...@semitwist.com wrote:



On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

Every time I open one of these messages I
get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
(hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.



Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.


But it only happens on these messages that come via Digitamars-d, and  
consistently so. What could be the difference.


I've used this newsreader for years (opera), never had this problem.

-Steve


Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d

On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

Every time I open one of these messages I
get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach Ball
(hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.



Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.



Re: [OT] from YourNameHere via Digitalmars-d

2014-04-17 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d

On Thursday, 17 April 2014 at 21:30:04 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

On 4/17/2014 8:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

Every time I open one of these messages I
get a huge pregnant 5-second pause, along with the Mac Beach 
Ball

(hourglass) while this message is opened in my news reader.



Sounds like something's wrong with your news reader.


Its not the client, its happening on the web interface as well.
Most notably for Manu's posts.