Re: TIOBE october

2015-10-07 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 10:55:21 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 03:26:37 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
wrote:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

d up from 31 in march.  Just below scala, sas, and fortran.  
No doubt noisy, and possibly news about Andrei leaving 
Facebook had an influence.  They changed the algorithm to be 
more tolerant of noise, which has had an impact on the results 
(which might also be a hint about the degree of precision in 
such an exercise) but don't say how that affected D, if at all.


Really, TIOBE doesn't mean much, but it is interesting to see 
that D is _way_ above Rust (which is barely in the top 50), and 
Go didn't make the top 50 at all. I typically hear way more 
about Go and Rust from folks outside of the newsgroup than I 
ever hear about D. So, if anything, that may just show how 
unreliable TIOBE is as a real measurement of language 
popularity or usage, but it is interesting that we're that high 
up in comparison to the newer languages that we usually get 
compared with.


- Jonathan M Davis


Yes.  TIOBE probably wrong about popularity, and although it is 
in our favour, it's probably a mistake to point to TIOBE, and 
indeed nobody here does.





Re: TIOBE october

2015-10-07 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d

On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 03:26:37 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

d up from 31 in march.  Just below scala, sas, and fortran.  No 
doubt noisy, and possibly news about Andrei leaving Facebook 
had an influence.  They changed the algorithm to be more 
tolerant of noise, which has had an impact on the results 
(which might also be a hint about the degree of precision in 
such an exercise) but don't say how that affected D, if at all.


Really, TIOBE doesn't mean much, but it is interesting to see 
that D is _way_ above Rust (which is barely in the top 50), and 
Go didn't make the top 50 at all. I typically hear way more about 
Go and Rust from folks outside of the newsgroup than I ever hear 
about D. So, if anything, that may just show how unreliable TIOBE 
is as a real measurement of language popularity or usage, but it 
is interesting that we're that high up in comparison to the newer 
languages that we usually get compared with.


- Jonathan M Davis


Re: TIOBE october

2015-10-06 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d

On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 04:00:02 UTC, Israel wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 03:26:37 UTC, Laeeth Isharc 
wrote:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

d up from 31 in march.  Just below scala, sas, and fortran.  
No doubt noisy, and possibly news about Andrei leaving 
Facebook had an influence.  They changed the algorithm to be 
more tolerant of noise, which has had an impact on the results 
(which might also be a hint about the degree of precision in 
such an exercise) but don't say how that affected D, if at all.


By noisy you mean hype?


Having a high element that doesn't relate to the underlying 
phenomenon one is trying to measure.  That's intrinsic to the 
problem domain, at least if you approach it in this way.


Re: TIOBE october

2015-10-06 Thread Israel via Digitalmars-d

On Wednesday, 7 October 2015 at 03:26:37 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

d up from 31 in march.  Just below scala, sas, and fortran.  No 
doubt noisy, and possibly news about Andrei leaving Facebook 
had an influence.  They changed the algorithm to be more 
tolerant of noise, which has had an impact on the results 
(which might also be a hint about the degree of precision in 
such an exercise) but don't say how that affected D, if at all.


By noisy you mean hype?


TIOBE october

2015-10-06 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

d up from 31 in march.  Just below scala, sas, and fortran.  No 
doubt noisy, and possibly news about Andrei leaving Facebook had 
an influence.  They changed the algorithm to be more tolerant of 
noise, which has had an impact on the results (which might also 
be a hint about the degree of precision in such an exercise) but 
don't say how that affected D, if at all.