Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 21:01, Walter Bright wrote:


The libraries were not built correctly (my old machine runs out of
memory building them). FreeBSD users have needed to, for some time now,
fork/build to get it.


I don't understand, the binaries and Phobos are included in the zip (I 
haven't verified that they work). But dmd.conf is not. Can't you include 
dmd.conf just because your machine runs out of memory?



Heck, I had spent considerable time just trying to figure out *which*
virtual box to install. Each option came with a long list of caveats and
things that didn't work. Some would work with one OS, some with another,
the one I did download would kinda sorta work with NetBSD, but not
really, etc. Then, of course, was having it all wiped out by upgrading
Ubuntu.


I'm not sure I understand what you're meaning. If I want to install 
Ubuntu, I just create a new virtual machine (using VirtualBox), download 
Ubuntu and makes a default installation. If I want Fedora, I do the same 
thing but I download and install Fedora instead.


NetBSD? We don't even support NetBSD. For FreeBSD, just do the same 
thing, download FreeBSD. Actually, for FreeBSD I installed PC-BSD 
instead. That will include a GUI by default, making it basically just as 
easy to use as Ubuntu.


The only thing that I had some trouble with is cross-compiling. That is, 
building 32bit on a 64bit machine.



It's not impossible to do. There's just a significant time sink involved
in figuring out which one to get, getting it installed, getting it
working, and keeping it working. It's actually easier to just buy
another machine.


I'm not going to argue. If you have trouble picking which ISO image to 
download we can help you.


What's taking the most time for me is download the ISO and wait for the 
installation. But I can do other things while waiting.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 4 November 2013 08:03, Walter Bright  wrote:

> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
>
> There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not make an
> announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site needs updating, too.
>


For the second time, the license on the readme.txt distributed with the
sources is wrong?


-- 
Iain Buclaw

*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';


Re: D meetup in Minnesota

2013-11-04 Thread Jack Pope
Vladimir, your talk about memory management and related would be 
interesting.  I will post some proposed meeting details to the 
meetup group list, and then we can work out transportation, etc.



Hi,

I'll be around Minneapolis (in Eagan) for all of November, with 
the possible exception of one week (TBD if/when) during which I 
might take a dip down to LA.


The biggest limiting factor is that I can't drive here. So, if 
someone could pick me up, practically any time I'm here is fine 
for me. Otherwise we'll need to find a day that works for 
everyone.


I could redo my DConf talk if you're interested, although I 
don't think I'd have much to add since May. Or, I could talk 
about memory management in D: garbage collection, structure and 
history of the D GC, related tools, best practices, and latest 
developments. Some of this was covered by the two DConf GC 
presentations.


What will the format and duration of the meetup be? A 
presentation in an auditorium somewhere, or like a 
dinner/gathering?




Re: Visual D 0.3.37 released

2013-11-04 Thread Manu
Thanks so much. As I've said before, this is an absolutely critical, yet
often overlooked piece of the ecosystem.
Good to see plenty of life in the project! :)

Note: I saw Alexander Bothe released an update to the parser one day after
your release... ;)


On 3 November 2013 00:40, Rainer Schuetze  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> it's been a long time since the last release of Visual D, but I hope it
> wasn't too long. As Visual D moves closer to the dlang.org website, this
> is the final release that will be available on http://www.dsource.org/
> projects/visuald. Downloads and documentation are also available at
> http://rainers.github.io/visuald.
>
> Major changes include
>
>   * Installer now supports VS 2013, updated to cv2pdb 0.27, mago 0.8,
> fixes x64 debugger in VS 2012 Shell
>
>   * improvements to "Compile and Run"
>
>   * improvements to syntax/coverage highlighting
>
>   * DParser engine now used by default, updated to recent version
>
>   * single file options now available per project configuration
>
>   * added global option to display the reason for building a target
>
>   * added different options for executable and library search paths to be
> used for Win32/x64
>
>   * link dependencies can now also be monitored for the 32-bit MS linker
>
>   * added commands "Collapse unittests" and "Collapse disabled" to the
> outlining menu
>
> The full list of changes can be found
> here: http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/VersionHistory
> or:   http://rainers.github.io/visuald/visuald/VersionHistory.html
>
> Visual D is written in D, source code is available here:
> https://github.com/D-programming-Language/visuald
>
> Best,
> Rainer
>


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Brad Roberts

On 11/4/13 5:20 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

On 11/4/2013 2:47 PM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Thanks. The Visual D installation is missing from this installer. Obviously,
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/installer/pull/23 has never been
merged. As I've just released a new version, it would be nice if it could link
to the new 0.3.37.


There have been a blizzard of pulls done in the last couple weeks, and it isn't 
always clear to me
which ones should go in 2.064. A note to me would be helpful with this.

Also, is that pull enough, or are you suggesting it needs further modification?


Why use lossy emails?  Submit pull requests against the branch (with a pointer in the request to the 
associated master pull to help confirm that it's already been merged there first).  That way it'll 
both get tested appropriately and not lost in the shuffle.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 2:47 PM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Thanks. The Visual D installation is missing from this installer. Obviously,
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/installer/pull/23 has never been
merged. As I've just released a new version, it would be nice if it could link
to the new 0.3.37.


There have been a blizzard of pulls done in the last couple weeks, and it isn't 
always clear to me which ones should go in 2.064. A note to me would be helpful 
with this.


Also, is that pull enough, or are you suggesting it needs further modification?


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Rainer Schuetze



On 04.11.2013 21:06, Walter Bright wrote:

On 11/4/2013 12:03 AM, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm


Windows:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064.exe



Thanks. The Visual D installation is missing from this installer. 
Obviously, https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/installer/pull/23 
has never been merged. As I've just released a new version, it would be 
nice if it could link to the new 0.3.37.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 12:03 AM, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm


Windows:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064.exe



Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 11:32 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 20:19, Walter Bright wrote:

On 11/4/2013 10:43 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Walter, can you also add the Windows installer to the RC?


What exactly do you mean?


You posted links to installers for all platforms except for Windows.


Ah, I see. I'd overlooked that one. I thought Rainer meant he wanted me to 
cherry-pick some installer pull into 2.064.




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 11:30 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 19:01, Walter Bright wrote:


Absolutely not. We just don't have a download package for it (this is
not a new development).


There are binaries for FreeBSD 32bit, but the dmd.conf file is still missing.


The libraries were not built correctly (my old machine runs out of memory 
building them). FreeBSD users have needed to, for some time now, fork/build to 
get it.




I've had a virtual machine setup at one point, but those things require
significant time to set up and to keep them from breaking (my virtual
machine setups all broke when I upgraded Ubuntu).


Personally I don't think it takes up so much time to setup, especially not for D
development. Just keep the customizations and non-default packages to a minimum.


Heck, I had spent considerable time just trying to figure out *which* virtual 
box to install. Each option came with a long list of caveats and things that 
didn't work. Some would work with one OS, some with another, the one I did 
download would kinda sorta work with NetBSD, but not really, etc. Then, of 
course, was having it all wiped out by upgrading Ubuntu.


It's not impossible to do. There's just a significant time sink involved in 
figuring out which one to get, getting it installed, getting it working, and 
keeping it working. It's actually easier to just buy another machine.




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 19:01, Walter Bright wrote:


Absolutely not. We just don't have a download package for it (this is
not a new development).


There are binaries for FreeBSD 32bit, but the dmd.conf file is still 
missing.



I've had a virtual machine setup at one point, but those things require
significant time to set up and to keep them from breaking (my virtual
machine setups all broke when I upgraded Ubuntu).


Personally I don't think it takes up so much time to setup, especially 
not for D development. Just keep the customizations and non-default 
packages to a minimum.



What I'd like is someone to become the "build master" who will get
Brad's autotester to automatically and routinely build each platform
install package.

This will also have the effect of better dealing with the constant
breakage of the scripts that build those packages.


Yeah, that would be nice.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 20:19, Walter Bright wrote:

On 11/4/2013 10:43 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Walter, can you also add the Windows installer to the RC?


What exactly do you mean?


You posted links to installers for all platforms except for Windows.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 10:43 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Walter, can you also add the Windows installer to the RC?


What exactly do you mean?


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 10:20 AM, Jordi Sayol wrote:

On 04/11/13 19:04, Walter Bright wrote:

On 11/4/2013 4:19 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 11:52, Walter Bright wrote:

They don't, but they've followed this pattern since they were originally
created by Jordi, and I've left it as is.


Too bad. I guess you don't want to change that?


I don't like breaking my scripts and other peoples' scripts. It's annoying that 
they don't follow a proper pattern, but is not a big deal.

If someone wants to step up and take the mantle of Build Master, he'd be in 
charge of things like that.




Sorry. I forget to tell you. my fault.



No worries. It's a minor detail.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Rainer Schuetze



On 04.11.2013 19:16, Alvaro wrote:

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:03:55 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip [...]



dmd -m64 xx.d says:

Can't run '\bin\link.exe', check PATH

Was that supposed to work? (as there are files in lib64 I thought
it was ready) 32 bit is OK.


If you are installing from the zip file, you need to have VCINSTALLDIR 
and WindowsSdkDir environment variables set. These are set if you open 
the console window for the Visual Studio version you want to use. These 
settings were hardcoded in sc.ini to the default installation path of 
VS2010 in previous dmd releases, but stripping the drive name.


The windows installer will patch sc.ini to contain the paths of the most 
recent versions of VC and the Windows SDK.


Walter, can you also add the Windows installer to the RC?


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jordi Sayol
On 04/11/13 19:04, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 11/4/2013 4:19 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> On 2013-11-04 11:52, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> They don't, but they've followed this pattern since they were originally
>>> created by Jordi, and I've left it as is.
>>
>> Too bad. I guess you don't want to change that?
> 
> I don't like breaking my scripts and other peoples' scripts. It's annoying 
> that they don't follow a proper pattern, but is not a big deal.
> 
> If someone wants to step up and take the mantle of Build Master, he'd be in 
> charge of things like that.
> 
> 

Sorry. I forget to tell you. my fault.

-- 
Jordi Sayol


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Alvaro

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:03:55 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip [...]



dmd -m64 xx.d says:

Can't run '\bin\link.exe', check PATH

Was that supposed to work? (as there are files in lib64 I thought
it was ready) 32 bit is OK.


Re: "Programming in D" book is about 95% translated

2013-11-04 Thread Ali Çehreli

On 11/04/2013 09:45 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:

> do you have the book on GitHub or some such site where we can
> submit change requests to the text?

This would be the best place:

  http://code.google.com/p/ddili/issues/list

Unfortunately it is svn, not a distributed version control system. :-/ 
Perhaps you can put the diff in the issue tracker and I apply.


> I've seen some small grammar errors

Thank you,
Ali



Re: "Programming in D" book is about 95% translated

2013-11-04 Thread Rory McGuire
On 4 Nov 2013 19:45, "Ali Çehreli"  wrote:
>
> On 11/03/2013 11:06 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:
>
> > Any chance of you providing a limited edition printed version?
> > Perhaps with the authors name missing from the cover? :D
>
> Ha ha! :) Maybe the name should appear randomly on the web site.
Seriously, I am thinking about a printed version, likely self-published,
but not before another couple of months.
>
> Ali
>
I look forward to it. I'm thinking a book with author missing on front
cover and picture done by relative in lower right corner :D.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 4:17 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 11:58, Walter Bright wrote:


They'll be dropped from the zip file. I don't have the equipment to
build them at the moment.


Will FreeBSD be dropped?


Absolutely not. We just don't have a download package for it (this is not a new 
development).



We never have had 64bit binaries but the 32bit? Can't
you just setup a virtual machine?


I've had a virtual machine setup at one point, but those things require 
significant time to set up and to keep them from breaking (my virtual machine 
setups all broke when I upgraded Ubuntu).


What I'd like is someone to become the "build master" who will get Brad's 
autotester to automatically and routinely build each platform install package.


This will also have the effect of better dealing with the constant breakage of 
the scripts that build those packages.




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 4:19 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 11:52, Walter Bright wrote:

They don't, but they've followed this pattern since they were originally
created by Jordi, and I've left it as is.


Too bad. I guess you don't want to change that?


I don't like breaking my scripts and other peoples' scripts. It's annoying that 
they don't follow a proper pattern, but is not a big deal.


If someone wants to step up and take the mantle of Build Master, he'd be in 
charge of things like that.




Re: "Programming in D" book is about 95% translated

2013-11-04 Thread Craig Dillabaugh

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 04:41:44 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

On 11/03/2013 03:19 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:

On Sunday, 3 November 2013 at 22:42:37 UTC, Tove wrote:
I'm not a native English speaker, but FWIW I would have 
chosen:


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/numeric_complement


I knew there was another term out there somewhere :-)


Thanks all, I've settled with the pedantically incorrect 
Negative and negative() but I added a note saying that it is 
more accurate to say "numeric complement":


  http://code.google.com/p/ddili/source/detail?r=649

Tove, I added you just as Tove in the acknowledgments section. 
Please e-mail me your last name at acehr...@yahoo.cm if you 
want me to add it.


Thank you,
Ali


Not directly related to this, but do you have the book on GitHub
or some such site where we can submit change requests to the
text?  I've seen some small grammar errors that I could likely
correct, but having to post to the mailing list (or even email
you) seems like more work for both of us.

Cheers,

Craig


Re: "Programming in D" book is about 95% translated

2013-11-04 Thread Ali Çehreli

On 11/03/2013 11:06 PM, Rory McGuire wrote:

> Any chance of you providing a limited edition printed version?
> Perhaps with the authors name missing from the cover? :D

Ha ha! :) Maybe the name should appear randomly on the web site. 
Seriously, I am thinking about a printed version, likely self-published, 
but not before another couple of months.


Ali



Re: Unit Threaded - a unit testing library for D

2013-11-04 Thread Atila Neves

I finally got around to putting it up in the dub registry.

http://code.dlang.org/packages/unit-threaded


On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 at 13:07:02 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
My very first D project is now feature-complete as far as I can 
see (alpha) and I'd like to share it with the community:


https://github.com/atilaneves/unit-threaded

There are more details on github but here are the highlights:

1. Automatic registration of unit tests via compile-time 
reflection
2. Unit tests can be classes or functions, the latter for 
minimal boilerplate

3. Support for D's unittest blocks
4. Runs in multiple threads by default, possible to run in one 
thread
5. Manual selection of tests to run at the command-line (runs 
all tests by default)


I've used it myself to test my other D projects (2 other for 
now) to make sure it did what I wanted it to. I basically wrote 
this for myself knowing what I'd want from a unit testing 
library, but I'm sure it can be useful for the general D public.


Feedback is of course more than welcome!

Atila

P.S. I totally expect this to break for large real-world 
projects in its current state. It can test some modules in 
phobos but had problems with others, for instance. My own other 
D projects are tiny and even if I had a large D codebase the 
tests I'd write would reflect the biases that go into this 
library.




Re: Introducing vibe.d!

2013-11-04 Thread Dicebot
On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 16:40:25 UTC, Alexandre Riveira 
wrote:

Hi Sönke,


Congratulations for your hard work.


One question,
How do you think your framework running in development mode 
where a huge amount of models with many business rules exist. A 
system under development can be slow, like java where a 
signature change in the method requires reload of the whole 
application.


Alexandre Riveira


I might recommend to wait a bit before trying it in production 
until CI suite is figured out (it is work in progress), there are 
some concerns with stability/regressions right now because it 
grows just too fast.


Once this stuff is back under control though, there is no reason 
why it shouldn't scale to complex business logic scenarios. It 
may require writing own modules for something like XML-based 
configuration or similar Java-ish stuff as vibe.d itself is more 
declarative / procedural in style but foundation is pretty solid.


I also recommend asking more specific questions in vibe.d own 
newsgroup as Sonke pays more attention to it, he is obviously 
quite a busy guy :)


Re: Introducing vibe.d!

2013-11-04 Thread Craig Dillabaugh

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 16:40:25 UTC, Alexandre Riveira
wrote:

Hi Sönke,


Congratulations for your hard work.


One question,
How do you think your framework running in development mode 
where a huge amount of models with many business rules exist. A 
system under development can be slow, like java where a 
signature change in the method requires reload of the whole 
application.


Alexandre Riveira


Alexandre,
Vibe.D now has its own forum, might be a better place to post
your question.

http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.vibed/





On Thursday, 26 April 2012 at 20:46:41 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

During the last few months, we have been working on a new
framework for general I/O and especially for building
extremely fast web apps. It combines asynchronous I/O with
core.thread's great fibers to build a convenient, blocking
API which can handle insane amounts of connections due to
the low memory and computational overhead.

Some of its key fatures are:

- Very fast but no endless callback chains as in node.js
  and similar frameworks
- Concise API that tries to be as efficient and intuitive
  as possible
- Built-in HTTP server and client with support for HTTPS,
  chunked and compressed transfers, keep-alive connections,
  Apache-style logging, a reverse-proxy, url routing and
  more
- Jade based HTML/XML template system with compile-time
  code generation for the fastest dynamic page generation
  times possible
- Built-in support for MongoDB and Redis databases
- WebSocket support
- Natural Json and Bson handling
- A package manager for seemless use of extension libraries

See http://vibed.org/ for more information and some example
applications (there are some things in the works such as an
etherpad clone and an NNTP server).

vibe.d is in a working state and enters its first beta-phase
now to stabilize the current feature set. After that, a
small list of additional features is planned before the 1.0
release.

The framework can be downloaded or GIT cloned from
http://vibed.org/ and is distributed under the terms of the
MIT license.

Note that the website including the blog is fully written
in vibe and provides the first stress test for the
implementation.

Regards,
Sönke


Re: Introducing vibe.d!

2013-11-04 Thread Alexandre Riveira

Hi Sönke,


Congratulations for your hard work.


One question,
How do you think your framework running in development mode where 
a huge amount of models with many business rules exist. A system 
under development can be slow, like java where a signature change 
in the method requires reload of the whole application.


Alexandre Riveira


On Thursday, 26 April 2012 at 20:46:41 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:

During the last few months, we have been working on a new
framework for general I/O and especially for building
extremely fast web apps. It combines asynchronous I/O with
core.thread's great fibers to build a convenient, blocking
API which can handle insane amounts of connections due to
the low memory and computational overhead.

Some of its key fatures are:

 - Very fast but no endless callback chains as in node.js
   and similar frameworks
 - Concise API that tries to be as efficient and intuitive
   as possible
 - Built-in HTTP server and client with support for HTTPS,
   chunked and compressed transfers, keep-alive connections,
   Apache-style logging, a reverse-proxy, url routing and
   more
 - Jade based HTML/XML template system with compile-time
   code generation for the fastest dynamic page generation
   times possible
 - Built-in support for MongoDB and Redis databases
 - WebSocket support
 - Natural Json and Bson handling
 - A package manager for seemless use of extension libraries

See http://vibed.org/ for more information and some example
applications (there are some things in the works such as an
etherpad clone and an NNTP server).

vibe.d is in a working state and enters its first beta-phase
now to stabilize the current feature set. After that, a
small list of additional features is planned before the 1.0
release.

The framework can be downloaded or GIT cloned from
http://vibed.org/ and is distributed under the terms of the
MIT license.

Note that the website including the blog is fully written
in vibe and provides the first stress test for the
implementation.

Regards,
Sönke




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread eles
On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 13:09:10 UTC, Leandro Lucarella 
wrote:

eles, el  4 de November a las 09:37 me escribiste:
On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:35:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg 
wrote:

>On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:

Is sad


Yes


, but it makes sense, this is a new "feature" that wasn't
even
merged or properly tested yet


Just to note that this looks quite promising: 
http://d.puremagic.com/test-results/pull-history.ghtml?projectid=1&repoid=1&pullid=2700


(True, tests are not designed for this kind of change...)


, so it shouldn't be included at a beta
stage. Let's just hope next release won't take that long.


Well, I hope. Also for various other compilers using the fronted, 
smaller gap between releases would make their maintainers' lives 
easier. A 2-month gap between releases?




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Leandro Lucarella
eles, el  4 de November a las 09:37 me escribiste:
> On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:35:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> >On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
> >>http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz
> 
> Another 5 months waiting?
> http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11365

Is sad, but it makes sense, this is a new "feature" that wasn't even
merged or properly tested yet, so it shouldn't be included at a beta
stage. Let's just hope next release won't take that long.

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Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Walter Bright, el  4 de November a las 02:57 me escribiste:
> On 11/4/2013 12:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> >You might want to name the release candidates properly and uniquely, just as 
> >you
> >started to do with the betas.
> 
> It'll follow the 2.063 pattern.

You mean after this release it will be named 2.064.1, etc? Then don't
call it a release candidate, is confusing. If is really an rc (which
since you don't want to make an official announcement yet, I guess it
is), please do what you did with the betas. All the same reasons to name
the betas uniquely apply to release candidates. Just change beta1 with
rc1 and make everybody happy. Is just one more little step! :)

Please, please, please, never, ever overwrite released packages (betas
and rc included) with a new one. You should consider them read-only
after you create and publish them.

Then be consistent with how you announce the releases (beta, rc, final)
and the version numbers you are using.

Thanks!

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Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Dicebot

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 10:53:22 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

and dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz are missing.


Seems to no longer be in 2.064. The installer builder was 
changed.


I have asked Jordi to remove those some time ago to avoid 
confusion with official Arch packages as matching build script 
was very obsolete and did not conform packaging guidelines. If 
having an easily available beta/rc package is desired, it can be 
trivially added to AUR.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 11:58, Walter Bright wrote:


They'll be dropped from the zip file. I don't have the equipment to
build them at the moment.


Will FreeBSD be dropped? We never have had 64bit binaries but the 32bit? 
Can't you just setup a virtual machine?


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Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 11:52, Walter Bright wrote:


There now.


Thanks.


They don't, but they've followed this pattern since they were originally
created by Jordi, and I've left it as is.


Too bad. I guess you don't want to change that?

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Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 12:34 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

Still no dmd.conf or 64bit binaries for FreeBSD.


They'll be dropped from the zip file. I don't have the equipment to build them 
at the moment.




Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 12:35 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

You might want to name the release candidates properly and uniquely, just as you
started to do with the betas.


It'll follow the 2.063 pattern.



Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 12:34 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

Based on the time you sent this I'm guessing you failed to include my recent
pull requests for the documentation which Kenji merged, see:

http://forum.dlang.org/thread/CAFDvkctqW-QDsGLA+Y6z67O686J1W0si2ZeBBF=b05armwn...@mail.gmail.com


Kenji merged them after I started building the RC. I'll put them in the next RC.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

On 11/4/2013 12:42 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

dmd.2.064.dmg


There now.


and dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz are missing.


Seems to no longer be in 2.064. The installer builder was changed.


The naming scheme is inconsistent. I don't know if they follow a platform 
specific naming scheme.


They don't, but they've followed this pattern since they were originally created 
by Jordi, and I've left it as is.




Mono-D v0.5.4.7 - Refactoring issue fixes & completion fixes

2013-11-04 Thread Alexander Bothe

Hi everyone,

not a big release, just a small bump for Mono-D and D_Parser :-)

http://mono-d.alexanderbothe.com/internal-refactoring-feature-cleanup-completion-fixes-v0-5-4-7/

Completion issues:
https://github.com/aBothe/D_Parser/issues

Other issues:
https://github.com/aBothe/Mono-D/issues


Cheers,
Alex


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Ivan Kazmenko

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:03:55 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not 
make an announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site 
needs updating, too.


FreeBSD libphobos2.a not updated in 2.064 betas (and now in the 
release candidate, too):

http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11413

I don't have a FreeBSD system to test whether anything actually 
works, but a 23M half-year-old standard library file in the 
zip-archive looks just plain wrong.  No library updates since 
February?..


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread deadalnix

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:03:55 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not 
make an announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site 
needs updating, too.


I still have a closure bug. Dustmite is running on it right now.


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not make an
announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site needs updating,
too.


dmd.2.064.dmg and dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz are missing. The naming 
scheme is inconsistent. I don't know if they follow a platform specific 
naming scheme.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not make an
announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site needs updating,
too.


You might want to name the release candidates properly and uniquely, 
just as you started to do with the betas.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread eles

On Monday, 4 November 2013 at 08:35:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz


Another 5 months waiting?
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=11365


Re: dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2013-11-04 09:03, Walter Bright wrote:

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not make an
announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site needs updating,
too.


Still no dmd.conf or 64bit binaries for FreeBSD.

Based on the time you sent this I'm guessing you failed to include my 
recent pull requests for the documentation which Kenji merged, see:


http://forum.dlang.org/thread/CAFDvkctqW-QDsGLA+Y6z67O686J1W0si2ZeBBF=b05armwn...@mail.gmail.com

--
/Jacob Carlborg


dmd 2.064 release candidate 1

2013-11-04 Thread Walter Bright

http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.zip
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd.2.064.dmg
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_amd64.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.fedora.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd_2.064-0_i386.deb
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-i386.pkg.tar.xz
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.i386.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0.openSUSE.x86_64.rpm
http://ftp.digitalmars.com/dmd-2.064-0-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

There is always something I broke or overlooked, so let's not make an 
announcement yet until this is good to go. The web site needs updating, too.