Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:39:50 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 19:10 +, CraigDillabaugh via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:



[…]
Tying to keep things positive, at least I don't have to spend 
a good chunk of my summer working with that horrible Melange 
site, and the rest of you won't have to put up with my GSoC 
pestering ...


Google's Melange site is a disgrace, it is truly horrible. I 
suspect

it is something written by someone who is a failure as a Web
applications developer.

Having you hectoring us makes things happen, do not stop doing 
this

please.


I will try to keep hectoring folks, but you all get a break at 
least for the summer :o)


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Brian Schott via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was rejected.


Apparently Blender didn't make it either:
https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/57247337964832


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 22:36:43 UTC, weaselcat wrote:

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped 
out on this, especially to those who volunteered to mentor.


I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here once/if I get something from them.


If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this 
post again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from 
this year and any feedback they provide.


Cheers,

Craig


List of accepted projects
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015

a lot of other languages got accepted :(


Yes, but I didn't see Rust, Nimrod, or Go on there, so I suppose 
we are on even footing with our main competition.


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 20:56:39 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 3/2/2015 11:08 AM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was
rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this, 
especially to those who

volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here once/if

I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this 
post again next
year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and any 
feedback they provide.



Thank you very much for taking the initiative and lead on this, 
Craig. Having done this myself (with Andrei), I know how much 
work it is. I'm sorry it didn't work out in our favor, but it's 
important that you tried.


Thanks for the kind words.


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:50:07 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On 03/02/2015 08:08 PM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of

Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
especially to those who volunteered to mentor.


Just read that as well, it's a pity.
Thanks for all the good work Craig.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here

once/if I get something from them.


You sent them a mail? Let's hope we get some qualified feedback.
I'll try to attend the IRC feedback meeting as well.

-Martin


Martin, thanks.  If you can get in on the IRC that would be 
great.  Google returned my message but it was basically We had a 
lot of hard decisions, and your organization was one of those 
... I bet everyone who failed an application gets the same 
feedback :o)


I sent a message asking for a bit more in-depth feedback, we will 
see how that turns out!


Re: DConf 2015 discounted hotel rooms now available

2015-03-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 01/16/2015 11:17 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
 Monday is Memorial Day in the US, just about everyone has it off.

Last year's memorial day I was standing at caltrain station, 5 AM,
realizing the train wouldn't come.


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 3/2/15 11:08 AM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer of
Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
especially to those who volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that here
once/if I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post again
next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and any
feedback they provide.


Thanks, Craig. I'm glad you asked, please follow through politely if at 
first you don't get an answer; Carol is very nice but (a) at this point 
in the GSoC timeline she's super busy, and (b) she won't reply to any 
question about rejection that alleges unfairness. So a kind request for 
what we can do in the future to improve our chances might fare well.


We've done well, I think, in 2011 and 2012 (except for the one student 
who failed to deliver) so something about our reporting might have 
failed GSoC's expectations.



Andrei



Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 03/03/2015 01:42 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 We've done well, I think, in 2011 and 2012 (except for the one student
 who failed to deliver) so something about our reporting might have
 failed GSoC's expectations.

Are there some documents/emails available. Will get back to you after
the IRC, maybe we can find out more.


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Piotrek via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out 
on this, especially to those who volunteered to mentor.


I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here once/if I get something from them.


If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this 
post again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this 
year and any feedback they provide.


Cheers,

Craig


Respect for your uphill battle.

I remember someone somewhere suggested to make our own summer of 
code (however I don't know how this would look like). As for a 
free money from corporations I'm  skeptical in general.

http://imgur.com/W5AMy0P

Nevertheless, great job.

Cheers
Piotrek


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Ben Boeckel via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 23:57:56 +, Piotrek via Digitalmars-d-announce 
wrote:
 I remember someone somewhere suggested to make our own summer of 
 code (however I don't know how this would look like).

Fedora runs its own[1].

--Ben

[1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_SIG


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 3/2/15 2:36 PM, weaselcat wrote:

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer
of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
especially to those who volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that
here once/if I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post
again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and
any feedback they provide.

Cheers,

Craig


List of accepted projects
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015

a lot of other languages got accepted :(


Comparing our application with that of the accepted language projects 
might yield some insight. I ran a cursory read of Clojure's idea page 
and on first sight it seems comparable to ours'. -- Andrei


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 3/03/2015 8:08 a.m., CraigDillabaugh wrote:

Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer of
Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
especially to those who volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that here
once/if I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post again
next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and any
feedback they provide.

Cheers,

Craig


You did a good job. I don't think it was your fault.
But as others have mentioned, maybe we should run our own.


Re: This Week in D #7 - summary of reference counting discussion

2015-03-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 03/02/2015 05:19 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
 http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/mar-01.html
 
 https://twitter.com/adamdruppe/status/572249079352299520
 

Thanks a lot Adam, this newsletter is really nice to keep up with the
important stuff. And there is a RSS feed as well :).


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 01:07:25 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On 03/03/2015 01:45 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Comparing our application with that of the accepted language 
projects
might yield some insight. I ran a cursory read of Clojure's 
idea page

and on first sight it seems comparable to ours'. -- Andrei


Indeed, this year our ideas page and the mentors list were much 
better.

http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas

http://scala-lang.org/gsoc/2015.html


I will definitely have to check out the winning bids from other 
languages for 2015 and 'borrow' some ideas for next year's 
version.




Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 01:03:21 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On 03/03/2015 01:42 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
We've done well, I think, in 2011 and 2012 (except for the one 
student
who failed to deliver) so something about our reporting might 
have

failed GSoC's expectations.


Are there some documents/emails available. Will get back to you 
after

the IRC, maybe we can find out more.


There isn't really much, just our proposal/mentors lists.  
Haven't heard anything extra from Google. I had one IRC chat with 
the Google people, but it was a technical one about who to work 
with Melange - surprise :o)




Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 03/03/2015 01:45 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Comparing our application with that of the accepted language projects
 might yield some insight. I ran a cursory read of Clojure's idea page
 and on first sight it seems comparable to ours'. -- Andrei

Indeed, this year our ideas page and the mentors list were much better.
http://wiki.dlang.org/GSOC_2015_Ideas

http://scala-lang.org/gsoc/2015.html


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 00:45:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu 
wrote:

On 3/2/15 2:36 PM, weaselcat wrote:

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer
of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on 
this,

especially to those who volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will 
post that

here once/if I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this 
post
again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this 
year and

any feedback they provide.

Cheers,

Craig


List of accepted projects
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015

a lot of other languages got accepted :(


Comparing our application with that of the accepted language 
projects might yield some insight. I ran a cursory read of 
Clojure's idea page and on first sight it seems comparable to 
ours'. -- Andrei


Haskell's page just seems to be its bug tracker?


Re: DlangIDE

2015-03-02 Thread Vadim Lopatin via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 10:28:54 UTC, Vadim Lopatin wrote:

On Sunday, 1 March 2015 at 10:16:32 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:



On 28.02.2015 10:50, Vadim Lopatin wrote:


I suspect that is implemented by the Visual Studio debugger. 
Have you

tried creating an IDebugPortSupplier2?
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb145819.aspx

It might also only be possible from within Visual Studio, 
though. To
host a debug engine you might have to implement these 
yourself...


To create IDebugPortSupplier2, I need at least GUID for class
implementing it.


You can find some in the registry, e.g.: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\12.0_Config\AD7Metrics\Engine\{3B476D35-A401-11D2-AAD4-00C04F990171}\PortSupplier


I guess you can only create them while running inside Visual 
Studio, so that might not really help any further...
Tried several CLSIDs from registry, but always getting 
REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG


Trying to use same approach as in MagoWrapper as suggested by 
michaelc37

http://forum.dlang.org/thread/mchmzlgdnzmcgwiti...@forum.dlang.org#post-zeqckcayqzkpsfxhznlz:40forum.dlang.org


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 3/2/2015 11:08 AM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer of Code was
rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this, especially to those who
volunteered to mentor.

I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that here once/if
I get something from them.

If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post again next
year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and any feedback they 
provide.



Thank you very much for taking the initiative and lead on this, Craig. Having 
done this myself (with Andrei), I know how much work it is. I'm sorry it didn't 
work out in our favor, but it's important that you tried.


Re: DlangIDE

2015-03-02 Thread Vadim Lopatin via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Sunday, 1 March 2015 at 10:16:32 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:



On 28.02.2015 10:50, Vadim Lopatin wrote:


I suspect that is implemented by the Visual Studio debugger. 
Have you

tried creating an IDebugPortSupplier2?
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb145819.aspx

It might also only be possible from within Visual Studio, 
though. To
host a debug engine you might have to implement these 
yourself...


To create IDebugPortSupplier2, I need at least GUID for class
implementing it.


You can find some in the registry, e.g.: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\12.0_Config\AD7Metrics\Engine\{3B476D35-A401-11D2-AAD4-00C04F990171}\PortSupplier


I guess you can only create them while running inside Visual 
Studio, so that might not really help any further...
Tried several CLSIDs from registry, but always getting 
REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG




Re: DConf 2015 discounted hotel rooms now available

2015-03-02 Thread Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 21:26:20 UTC, Andrei 
Alexandrescu wrote:

https://twitter.com/D_Programming/status/555471499893944323

They're available through May 12, but the number of rooms 
reserved is reserved and first-come-first-served, so book soon. 
Many thanks to Chuck Allison for facilitating this!



Andrei



What is the unofficial hangout spot for this year?


Re: This Week in D #7 - summary of reference counting discussion

2015-03-02 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 04:19:08 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
This was a very active week on the forums, though most of it 
was centered around DIP74 and its satellite discussions, 
leading to a somewhat thin newsletter.


http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/mar-01.html

https://twitter.com/adamdruppe/status/572249079352299520


An exegesis of Walter's reference counted slice Improving DIP74: 
functions borrow by default, retain only if needed


It looks like this was supposed to be split up into two bullet 
points.


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out 
on this, especially to those who volunteered to mentor.


I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here once/if I get something from them.


If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this 
post again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this 
year and any feedback they provide.


Cheers,

Craig


Tying to keep things positive, at least I don't have to spend a 
good chunk of my summer working with that horrible Melange site, 
and the rest of you won't have to put up with my GSoC pestering 
...


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 19:10 +, CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce 
wrote:
 
[…]
 Tying to keep things positive, at least I don't have to spend a good 
 chunk of my summer working with that horrible Melange site, and the 
 rest of you won't have to put up with my GSoC pestering ...

Google's Melange site is a disgrace, it is truly horrible. I suspect 
it is something written by someone who is a failure as a Web 
applications developer.

Having you hectoring us makes things happen, do not stop doing this 
please.

-- 
Russel.
=
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41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk
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GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce
Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google 
Summer of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out 
on this, especially to those who volunteered to mentor.


I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post 
that here once/if I get something from them.


If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post 
again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year 
and any feedback they provide.


Cheers,

Craig


Re: GSoC 2015 - Application Rejected

2015-03-02 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 03/02/2015 08:08 PM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
 Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer of
 Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
 especially to those who volunteered to mentor.

Just read that as well, it's a pity.
Thanks for all the good work Craig.

 I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that here
 once/if I get something from them.

You sent them a mail? Let's hope we get some qualified feedback.
I'll try to attend the IRC feedback meeting as well.

-Martin