Re: Button: A fast, correct, and elegantly simple build system.
On Sunday, 19 June 2016 at 15:47:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Let me propose another idea where maybe we can remove the extra dependency for new codebase collaborators but still have access to a full-blown build system: Add a sub-command to Button that produces a shell script to run the build. For example, `button shell -o build.sh`. Then just run `./build.sh` to build everything. I vaguely recall either Tup or Ninja having something like this. This actually sounds nice. Main problem that comes to my mind is that there is no cross-platform shell script. Even if it is list of plain unconditional commands there are always differences like normalized path form. Of course, one can always generate `build.d` as a shell script, but that would only work for D projects and Button is supposed to be a generic solution. I'd make it so it could either produce a Bash or Batch script. Possibly also a PowerShell script because error handling in Batch is awful. That should cover any platform it might be needed on. Normalizing paths shouldn't be a problem either. This should actually be pretty easy to implement.
Re: D-Man culture
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 03:01:33PM +, Seb via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure how much you have heard about the D-Man, but in Japan > there is an entire culture based on the D-Man! > As I learned about this by accident (and even Walter didn't know about > it), I thought I share this great movement with the DLang community! [...] I also made a 3D PovRay model of D-Man some years ago. Here's a sample render showing four poses: http://eusebeia.dyndns.org/~hsteoh/tmp/mascot.png If anyone's interested in playing around with the model, I can put the PovRay source files up somewhere. T -- My program has no bugs! Only undocumented features...
Re: D-Man culture
On 2016-06-19 23:29:35 +, Adam D. Ruppe said: We should probably make a D-man video game. There already are a couple: http://yomogimaru.tumblr.com/post/145803169293 http://goboriin.sub.jp/DLNGRING/
Re: D-Man culture
We should probably make a D-man video game.
Re: D-Man culture
Whew! I thought this was going to be a scathing critique of some lurking anti-feministic culture in the D world. Glad to see it's just about some cute D-shaped characters! On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote: > I find this amazing and lots of fun! >
Re: D-Man culture
I find this amazing and lots of fun!
Re: Button: A fast, correct, and elegantly simple build system.
On Saturday, 18 June 2016 at 08:05:18 UTC, Jason White wrote: I realize you might be playing devil's advocate a bit and I appreciate it. Yeah, I personally quite like how Button looks and would totally consider it, probably with some tweaks of own taste. But not for most public projects for a reasons mentioned. Let me propose another idea where maybe we can remove the extra dependency for new codebase collaborators but still have access to a full-blown build system: Add a sub-command to Button that produces a shell script to run the build. For example, `button shell -o build.sh`. Then just run `./build.sh` to build everything. I vaguely recall either Tup or Ninja having something like this. This actually sounds nice. Main problem that comes to my mind is that there is no cross-platform shell script. Even if it is list of plain unconditional commands there are always differences like normalized path form. Of course, one can always generate `build.d` as a shell script, but that would only work for D projects and Button is supposed to be a generic solution.
D-Man culture
Hi, I am not sure how much you have heard about the D-Man, but in Japan there is an entire culture based on the D-Man! As I learned about this by accident (and even Walter didn't know about it), I thought I share this great movement with the DLang community! Here are some awesome impressions from Twitter: D-Man vs. Gopher https://twitter.com/simd_nyan/status/74192428819840 D-Man (3D printed with PolyFlex) https://twitter.com/simd_nyan/status/623098949046382593 D-Man in "Action" - https://twitter.com/stamcd/status/742563964656062464 3D-animated D-Man - https://twitter.com/SagafroKichigai/status/680651286006505472 https://twitter.com/SagafroKichigai/status/731668840900263940 DLang comic strips -- e.g. "Getting into Phobos": https://twitter.com/DlangGuy/status/639529181978697728 Where to go from here? -- The D-Man has already found its way into some of our documentation pages: http://dlang.org/overview.html http://dlang.org/spec/iasm.html http://dlang.org/spec/contracts.html and I argue that it helps to make those pages more unique, vivid and memorable! Imho we should start to embrace the D-Man as our official mascot (like the Gopher for Go) and many of the specification pages (and the new Dlang Tour pages) would profit from similar drawings. This is not intended to spark a huge discussion, as I am quite aware that some see the D-man as childish and a negative way to represent D, but for more "professional" use cases we have the awesome, new D icons from Sociomantic. Get involved It's proposed to use #DLangMan in the future, s.t. English readers can also enjoy the D-Man content. Moreover there are some Twitter accounts that are extraordinary D-man evangelists: https://twitter.com/simd_nyan https://twitter.com/DlangGuy (DLang comic strips) https://twitter.com/meiz_sandwich https://twitter.com/d_man_bot (retweets D-Man content) As mentioned I don't speak Japanese, so I would be quite interested if someone from this movement could explain the history or give a better summary.
Re: Button: A fast, correct, and elegantly simple build system.
On Saturday, 18 June 2016 at 23:52:00 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: I did a quick investigation, which found something interesting. If compiling straight to executable, the executable is identical each time with the same md5sum. However, when compiling to object files, the md5sum is sometimes the same, sometimes different. Repeating this several time reveals that the md5sum changes every second, meaning that the difference is a timestamp in the object file. Maybe we could file an enhancement request for this? Done: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16185
