Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 15:36:58 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I think it could be more clear why it's deprecated and what to 
do instead:


Language construct A is deprecated.

A is bad because: ...
Do this instead: ...


Yes agreed, will try to establish a more formal format.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 2016-10-01 22:57, Martin Nowak wrote:


Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org


std.process is pretty broken on macOS: 
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16580


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Krejcirik via Digitalmars-d-announce]

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16578

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 2016-10-02 14:37, Martin Nowak wrote:


Yes, that's how it should be, but don't both deprecations contain enough
information to replace old code?


Yeah, I see that now. I didn't notice it at first. It's not as clear as 
I would like. I would like it to explicitly state "To this instead: ...".


I think it could be more clear why it's deprecated and what to do instead:

Language construct A is deprecated.

A is bad because: ...
Do this instead: ...

--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 15:04:06 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 13:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
Does any change related to protection attributes would be able 
to trigger them ?
Such a breakage is really hardly believable (it's very basic 
OOP).


Please file a bug report with a code example reproducing the 
problem.

If you can't reduce the code, a big example is better than none.


Ok done: 16570 and 16574. I just tried to see if the problem was 
from my side before.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 13:33:58 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
Does any change related to protection attributes would be able 
to trigger them ?
Such a breakage is really hardly believable (it's very basic 
OOP).


Please file a bug report with a code example reproducing the 
problem.

If you can't reduce the code, a big example is better than none.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 12:43:00 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 00:18:23 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
It was compiling fine with 2.071.2. I cant say if this is a 
regression or not.
If not it would mean that the previous management of the 
static ctor hided a problem ?


Yes, previously cyclic dependencies through a third module 
without ctor were not detected correctly. Therefore it was 
possible to use a module before it was initialized.


This problem is fortunately fixed by moving a static ctor from a 
module to another but I still get some very strange messages 
saying "stuff does not override any function". Some of them are 
related to member functions with void() for type, so it cannot be 
an error in the signature.


The messages are not emitted when I unittest the module that 
contains the classes but only when I subclass in a simple script.


Does any change related to protection attributes would be able to 
trigger them ?

Such a breakage is really hardly believable (it's very basic OOP).

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 06:13:34 UTC, Suliman wrote:

Sorry, but when new libs will be included?


We try to release regular and often (roughly every two month) to 
avoid such catch the train releases. Things should get released 
when they're ready, and only then.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 00:18:23 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
It was compiling fine with 2.071.2. I cant say if this is a 
regression or not.
If not it would mean that the previous management of the static 
ctor hided a problem ?


Yes, previously cyclic dependencies through a third module 
without ctor were not detected correctly. Therefore it was 
possible to use a module before it was initialized.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 11:12:41 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
It would be nice if the changelog, for the deprecated language 
constructs, contained information on what to use instead, if 
one is using them.


Yes, that's how it should be, but don't both deprecations contain 
enough information to replace old code?

Also here is the changelog if you want to improve it.
https://github.com/dlang/dlang.org/blob/6c63ab22204e4363b2ea939a090c3f8bd3e5dbed/changelog/2.072.0_pre.dd

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Seb via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 11:12:41 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

On 2016-10-01 22:57, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS 
support on
OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try 
-transition=safe), and

a few smaller language and compiler additions.

This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html


It would be nice if the changelog, for the deprecated language 
constructs, contained information on what to use instead, if 
one is using them.


In theory there is a special page:

http://dlang.org/deprecate.html

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 2016-10-01 22:57, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS support on
OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try -transition=safe), and
a few smaller language and compiler additions.

This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html


It would be nice if the changelog, for the deprecated language 
constructs, contained information on what to use instead, if one is 
using them.


--
/Jacob Carlborg

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Sunday, 2 October 2016 at 06:13:34 UTC, Suliman wrote:

On Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 20:57:17 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

[...]


Sorry, but when new libs will be included?
XML (from GSoC) https://github.com/lodo1995/experimental.xml
std_data_json https://github.com/s-ludwig/std_data_json

I think it's better to include them now to std.experimental to 
help people start adopt projects to them.


They are not good enough to be included into Phobos. --Ilya

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Suliman via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 20:57:17 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS 
support on OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try 
-transition=safe), and a few smaller language and compiler 
additions.


This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta 
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html


Unfortunately we still need to resolve a regression that causes 
issues with EncodingScheme.create 
(https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16291), you might run 
into problems when using std.net.curl.


In case you run into a yet unknown module cycle, this is
likely due to the fixed cycle detection.
We're still working on a -DRT-cyclecheck=printonly switch to 
allow

making those non-fatal.
https://github.com/dlang/druntime/pull/1602#issuecomment-248447332

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin


Sorry, but when new libs will be included?
XML (from GSoC) https://github.com/lodo1995/experimental.xml
std_data_json https://github.com/s-ludwig/std_data_json

I think it's better to include them now to std.experimental to 
help people start adopt projects to them.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 20:57:17 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS 
support on OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try 
-transition=safe), and a few smaller language and compiler 
additions.


This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta 
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html


Unfortunately we still need to resolve a regression that causes 
issues with EncodingScheme.create 
(https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16291), you might run 
into problems when using std.net.curl.


In case you run into a yet unknown module cycle, this is
likely due to the fixed cycle detection.
We're still working on a -DRT-cyclecheck=printonly switch to 
allow

making those non-fatal.
https://github.com/dlang/druntime/pull/1602#issuecomment-248447332

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin


Thanks.

After compiling something that worked fine I've started to get 
some strange errors message about some very simple OOP things 
("stuff.x" does not override anything...repeated many times). 
When I've tried to execute only the module containing the classes 
related to the error message, I've received:


"object.Error@src/rt/minfo.d(356): Cyclic dependency between 
module ... and ..." + the list allowing to detect the cycle.


It was compiling fine with 2.071.2. I cant say if this is a 
regression or not.
If not it would mean that the previous management of the static 
ctor hided a problem ?


Otherwise 2 other regressions found, one is not yet identified.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 23:27:57 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
Nice work. One small issue link to Unrestricted Unions 



It does work, there are simply no details.
Needs a bit more explanation though 
https://github.com/dlang/dmd/commit/3725a663d8aeec3350e81728173d76f429481fef#commitcomment-19255521.

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

Nice work. One small issue link to Unrestricted Unions 



http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html#unrestricted_unions does not work


Dne 1.10.2016 v 22:57 Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce napsal(a):

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS support on
OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try -transition=safe), and
a few smaller language and compiler additions.

This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html

Unfortunately we still need to resolve a regression that causes issues
with EncodingScheme.create
(https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16291), you might run into
problems when using std.net.curl.

In case you run into a yet unknown module cycle, this is
likely due to the fixed cycle detection.
We're still working on a -DRT-cyclecheck=printonly switch to allow
making those non-fatal.
https://github.com/dlang/druntime/pull/1602#issuecomment-248447332

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin

Re: Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Ilya Yaroshenko via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Saturday, 1 October 2016 at 20:57:17 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS 
support on OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try 
-transition=safe), and a few smaller language and compiler 
additions.


[...]


Many thanks!

Beta 2.072.0-b1

[Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d-announce]

First beta for the 2.072.0 release.

This release comes with many new phobos features, native TLS support on
OSX, the first bunch of @safety enhancements (try -transition=safe), and
a few smaller language and compiler additions.

This is also the first dmd release to include dub.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.072.0.html

Unfortunately we still need to resolve a regression that causes issues
with EncodingScheme.create
(https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16291), you might run into
problems when using std.net.curl.

In case you run into a yet unknown module cycle, this is
likely due to the fixed cycle detection.
We're still working on a -DRT-cyclecheck=printonly switch to allow
making those non-fatal.
https://github.com/dlang/druntime/pull/1602#issuecomment-248447332

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin