Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Wednesday, 13 January 2016 at 01:02:28 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: [snip] Thanks for the reply.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 21:10:28 UTC, John Colvin wrote: On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 20:32:57 UTC, jmh530 wrote: I'm not sure when you would want to use dynamic bindings. When you want to have control over the process of loading a library e.g. if you want it to be an optional dependency at runtime. For me, the big benefit is that it eliminates the link-time dependency on the C library. I don't have to worry about whether the dev package is installed on Linux, or the COFF/OMF issues on Windows. Reducing dependencies like this makes avoids several potential build issues, something particularly good for open source projects. You can download the source for an SDL-based game, for example, and not worry about which version of the SDL development libraries you need to build it. Another benefit is that the app doesn't need to fail if a particular version of a library is not available. For example, DerelictUtil, the library which provides the loader for all of the Derelict bindings, allows the ability to continue loading if certain functions are missing. You can choose to use those functions if present and fallback on something else if they aren't. If you've ever used OpenGL, you're probably already doing this. You can use version 4.x if it's available and fallback to 3.x if it isn't; extensions are loaded on an as-needed and as-available basis. A dynamic binding allows this sort of behavior with any library. One of the entries in, IIRC, Game Programming Gems 2, talked about solving the DLL Hell problem with dynamic loading. For me, it really just boils down to more convenient builds. I tend to prefer it over static or dynamic linking. In fact, dynamic linking doesn't even enter the picture for me in D. If I need a shared library, I'll just load it myself.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 22:00:32 UTC, jmh530 wrote: On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 21:10:28 UTC, John Colvin wrote: When you want to have control over the process of loading a library e.g. if you want it to be an optional dependency at runtime. I've seen the example in the book. I'm just not sure why you would want an optional runtime dependency. Anything in your application / library that relies on resources that may or may not be available on the user's system. E.g. plugins the user wants to load.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 21:10:28 UTC, John Colvin wrote: When you want to have control over the process of loading a library e.g. if you want it to be an optional dependency at runtime. I've seen the example in the book. I'm just not sure why you would want an optional runtime dependency.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 20:32:57 UTC, jmh530 wrote: I'm not sure when you would want to use dynamic bindings. When you want to have control over the process of loading a library e.g. if you want it to be an optional dependency at runtime.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 17:21:24 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Thanks guys! That kind of feedback is a good Christmas present :) I'm working through the book now. I'm liking it. I'm on Chapter 9, which has the Connecting D with C material. At the beginning of the chapter you define some terms: dynamic vs. static linking, dynamic/static libraries, and dynamic/static binding. I think the way you explain these terms assumes that someone already has quite a bit of computing knowledge. I googled the dynamic/static library stuff and there are some simpler explanations online that I can understand. There's less material out there on dynamic/static bindings, the way you're talking about it. I think I get what you're saying about static bindings, but I'm not sure when you would want to use dynamic bindings.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Saturday, 26 December 2015 at 19:09:22 UTC, Kingsley wrote: On Saturday, 26 December 2015 at 17:58:52 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: Really appreciate the attention to detail that went into it. This is a fantastic book - thanks very much to Mike for all the effort and attention he put into the book :) - I have learned a lot from it. Thanks guys! That kind of feedback is a good Christmas present :)
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Saturday, 26 December 2015 at 17:58:52 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 06:17:17 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: [...] Got "Learning D" as a present, still reading. I must say I didn't expect to learn much after the D Cookbook or TDPL. Wrong! The content matches perfectly with the stuff I hadn't understood well enough. Just like D it has a lot of value in small details, like "this" template parameters, detailing opEquals, details on align, DVM introduction... The chapter on Ranges is extremely helpful and should help overcome my "range anxiety". Other chapter are similarly thorough on Voldemort types or slices. Really appreciate the attention to detail that went into it. This is a fantastic book - thanks very much to Mike for all the effort and attention he put into the book :) - I have learned a lot from it.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 06:17:17 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) 'Learning D' is available from the publisher's website[1], where a sample[2] can also be viewed for those who want to try before they buy. It's also available from Amazon[3]. Got "Learning D" as a present, still reading. I must say I didn't expect to learn much after the D Cookbook or TDPL. Wrong! The content matches perfectly with the stuff I hadn't understood well enough. Just like D it has a lot of value in small details, like "this" template parameters, detailing opEquals, details on align, DVM introduction... The chapter on Ranges is extremely helpful and should help overcome my "range anxiety". Other chapter are similarly thorough on Voldemort types or slices. Really appreciate the attention to detail that went into it.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 13:14:32 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 11:26:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Is it just me or does the free sample link just show the first two paragraphs of each section, which are available for every section in the book? Would be nice if a whole section or two were made available. If you create an account, you can read more of it online. I realize not everyone would want to do that. There was a discussion about releasing Chapter 3 as a free sample and publishing Chapter 6 in the 'articles' section on their site. I've asked my editor what's going on with that, as I can't find any links for either. OK, Chapter 6, 'Understanding Ranges' is available at [1]. They've edited it a bit to make it work as an article, so it isn't exactly as it appears in the book, but it's close enough. Chapter 3, 'Programming Objects the D Way' is available as a sample from the book page at [2] *if* you are not logged in *and* you do not have a cookie cached. If you are logged in, you see a 'Read Online' button, but it's 'Free Sample' if you are not. If you have a cookie cached, clicking 'Free Sample' will log you in and take you to the same place as 'Read Online'. Otherwise, it will take you to the same web app, but will allow you to only read Chapter 3. [1] https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/understanding-ranges [2] https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/learning-d
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 06:17:17 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: If you know any C-family programmers who are interested in learning D, this book was written with them in mind. I hope people find it useful. Exactly what I was looking for! Got my copy, thanks!
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
Thanks, everyone! On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 22:50:49 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 12/01/2015 12:33 PM, bachmeier wrote: He lives in Korea. They're 15 hours ahead of CDT, making it 5:30 am right now. He may be asleep. (I used to live in Korea, so I dealt with this all the time.) I know. I was about to say "don't publish on social news before he's awake" but the news was out already. :) Ali I've been up since 6:30, but that's only because Wednesday is my busiest morning of the week. I caught a break today, though, and half of my schedule was unexpectedly canceled. I'll be able to monitor the reddit thread from here on out. It's a quiet one so far, though :)
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On 12/01/2015 12:33 PM, bachmeier wrote: On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 19:58:22 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 12/01/2015 09:53 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Congratulations! You may want to announce it in social news as well (twitter, facebook, reddit, hackernews). -- Andrei https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3v0vw8/book_release_learning_d_by_michael_parker_is_now/ Mike, I hope you will be able stay on that Reddit thread with an "AMA". And of course, congratulations! :) Ali He lives in Korea. They're 15 hours ahead of CDT, making it 5:30 am right now. He may be asleep. (I used to live in Korea, so I dealt with this all the time.) I know. I was about to say "don't publish on social news before he's awake" but the news was out already. :) Ali
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 19:58:22 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 12/01/2015 09:53 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Congratulations! You may want to announce it in social news as well (twitter, facebook, reddit, hackernews). -- Andrei https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3v0vw8/book_release_learning_d_by_michael_parker_is_now/ Mike, I hope you will be able stay on that Reddit thread with an "AMA". And of course, congratulations! :) Ali He lives in Korea. They're 15 hours ahead of CDT, making it 5:30 am right now. He may be asleep. (I used to live in Korea, so I dealt with this all the time.)
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On 12/01/2015 09:53 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Congratulations! You may want to announce it in social news as well (twitter, facebook, reddit, hackernews). -- Andrei https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3v0vw8/book_release_learning_d_by_michael_parker_is_now/ Mike, I hope you will be able stay on that Reddit thread with an "AMA". And of course, congratulations! :) Ali
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On 12/01/2015 01:17 AM, Mike Parker wrote: Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) 'Learning D' is available from the publisher's website[1], where a sample[2] can also be viewed for those who want to try before they buy. It's also available from Amazon[3]. Thanks to Walter for kindly providing a Foreword and to all the reviewers for their valuable feedback. The source will be downloadable from the publisher's website, but I intend to put up a repository on GitHub to make sure it stays up to date. I'll be posting more about the book on my blog[4] in the near future. If you know any C-family programmers who are interested in learning D, this book was written with them in mind. I hope people find it useful. [1] https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/learning-d [2] https://www.packtpub.com/packtlib/book/Application%20Development/9781783552481 [3] http://www.amazon.com/Learning-D-Michael-Parker/dp/1783552484/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1448948127&sr=8-1&keywords=learning+d&linkCode=sl1&tag=aldacron-20&linkId=b0490265742705a2e3dd6fd25536b006 [4] http://dblog.aldacron.net Congratulations! You may want to announce it in social news as well (twitter, facebook, reddit, hackernews). -- Andrei
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
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Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
V Tue, 01 Dec 2015 15:27:35 + bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce napsáno: > Sorry to steal your thunder. I assumed I wasn't keeping up. I > actually went to that website because I had just noticed Kai > Nacke's book announcement from July, and there was your book, at > half price. > > I strongly recommend Learning D to anyone wanting to learn more > about D. Count this as a five star review. Well worth the money. +1 :)
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
Sorry to steal your thunder. I assumed I wasn't keeping up. I actually went to that website because I had just noticed Kai Nacke's book announcement from July, and there was your book, at half price. I strongly recommend Learning D to anyone wanting to learn more about D. Count this as a five star review. Well worth the money.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On 12/1/15 9:36 AM, Mike Parker wrote: No idea. All I know is I got an email today saying that it was released on the 27th. It's been available for pre-order for several months now. FWIW, I just got an email today from them that it is now published. So you aren't the only one. The email did not mention a publishing date. Looking forward to reading the final version! And hopefully I can track you down at a future dconf to have it signed :) -Steve
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 13:24:09 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote: Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) Hi Mike, PacktLib access only started working today so perhaps it was in some sort of pre-release phase? -Rory No idea. All I know is I got an email today saying that it was released on the 27th. It's been available for pre-order for several months now.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote: > Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I > wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally > got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic > here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my > "official" announcement :) > Hi Mike, PacktLib access only started working today so perhaps it was in some sort of pre-release phase? -Rory
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 11:26:42 UTC, Joakim wrote: Is it just me or does the free sample link just show the first two paragraphs of each section, which are available for every section in the book? Would be nice if a whole section or two were made available. If you create an account, you can read more of it online. I realize not everyone would want to do that. There was a discussion about releasing Chapter 3 as a free sample and publishing Chapter 6 in the 'articles' section on their site. I've asked my editor what's going on with that, as I can't find any links for either.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 09:02:39 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote: http://wiki.dlang.org/Books should be updated :) Done! Thanks.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 06:17:17 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) 'Learning D' is Congratulations! It looks good.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 06:17:17 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) [...] Is it just me or does the free sample link just show the first two paragraphs of each section, which are available for every section in the book? Would be nice if a whole section or two were made available.
Re: Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
V Tue, 01 Dec 2015 06:17:15 + Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce napsáno: > Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable > process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov > 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already > being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me > for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) > > 'Learning D' is available from the publisher's website[1], where > a sample[2] can also be viewed for those who want to try before > they buy. It's also available from Amazon[3]. > > Thanks to Walter for kindly providing a Foreword and to all the > reviewers for their valuable feedback. > > The source will be downloadable from the publisher's website, but > I intend to put up a repository on GitHub to make sure it stays > up to date. I'll be posting more about the book on my blog[4] in > the near future. > > If you know any C-family programmers who are interested in > learning D, this book was written with them in mind. I hope > people find it useful. > > [1] https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/learning-d > [2] > https://www.packtpub.com/packtlib/book/Application%20Development/9781783552481 > [3] > http://www.amazon.com/Learning-D-Michael-Parker/dp/1783552484/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1448948127&sr=8-1&keywords=learning+d&linkCode=sl1&tag=aldacron-20&linkId=b0490265742705a2e3dd6fd25536b006 > [4] http://dblog.aldacron.net http://wiki.dlang.org/Books should be updated :)
Official Announcement: 'Learning D' is Released
Due to a minor mix up at the end of an otherwise enjoyable process, I wasn't notified that 'Learning D' was released on Nov 27. Today, I finally got that notification. Despite there already being a thread on the topic here in this forum, please forgive me for taking the opportunity to make my "official" announcement :) 'Learning D' is available from the publisher's website[1], where a sample[2] can also be viewed for those who want to try before they buy. It's also available from Amazon[3]. Thanks to Walter for kindly providing a Foreword and to all the reviewers for their valuable feedback. The source will be downloadable from the publisher's website, but I intend to put up a repository on GitHub to make sure it stays up to date. I'll be posting more about the book on my blog[4] in the near future. If you know any C-family programmers who are interested in learning D, this book was written with them in mind. I hope people find it useful. [1] https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/learning-d [2] https://www.packtpub.com/packtlib/book/Application%20Development/9781783552481 [3] http://www.amazon.com/Learning-D-Michael-Parker/dp/1783552484/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1448948127&sr=8-1&keywords=learning+d&linkCode=sl1&tag=aldacron-20&linkId=b0490265742705a2e3dd6fd25536b006 [4] http://dblog.aldacron.net
