Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-07 Thread Trass3r
Am 07.10.2011, 13:28 Uhr, schrieb Steve Teale  
:



Are you saying that GDC is way faster?


Yep. Especially for floating point calculations.

Worst-case scenario for dmd:
http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalmars-d@puremagic.com/msg61860.html
(be sure to read through the whole thread though, I refined my post later  
and then gdc and ldc were on par with C++ while dmd is still slower than  
javascript.)


Another test:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/path_tracing_benchmark_142014.html


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-07 Thread Steve Teale
Are you saying that GDC is way faster?

But I take your point.

Steve


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-06 Thread Trass3r
Just as a matter of interest, how do you rate GDC 2.055 for speed  
alongside the Linux DMD.


Of course it is way faster. You should compare with gcc instead.


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-06 Thread Steve Teale
Iain,

You've made a cross for yourself there! If you need help with grunt tasks - 
like a
broken piece of D code with a decent description of the problem, or even 
grunter,
I might be able to help. As you know, I've been in those muddy waters before 
with
nobody to even consult. With a guru like you I could probably get moving fairly
quickly.

Just as a matter of interest, how do you rate GDC 2.055 for speed alongside the
Linux DMD.

Steve


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-06 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Andrej Mitrovic, el  6 de octubre a las 00:34 me escribiste:
> Maybe if this was posted on Reddit it would get some vocal support and
> give the GNU guys reassurance that D is a sought-after language.
> 
> Anyway this is great news! Congrats to Iain Buclaw and anyone else who helped.

Great news indeed! Congrats!

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Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-05 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
Maybe if this was posted on Reddit it would get some vocal support and
give the GNU guys reassurance that D is a sought-after language.

Anyway this is great news! Congrats to Iain Buclaw and anyone else who helped.


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-05 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"dsimcha"  wrote in message 
news:j6hkec$7lb$1...@digitalmars.com...
>
> 2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release 
> cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not going 
> to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro or 
> MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date and 
> each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.

Even if this is an issue at first, I'd bet it will become less and less 
significant as DMD/Phobos improve and solidify. 




Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-05 Thread Robert McGinley
Why not just write a redirect rule from the old D pages to the new ones?

On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
>> My worst kept secret is out.
>> 
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA
> 
> *Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
> language.org, and since www.digitialmars.com only redirects on the main page, 
> the link doesn't get redirected to the correct place.
> 
> - Jonathan M Davis



Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-05 Thread Iain Buclaw
== Quote from dsimcha (dsim...@yahoo.com)'s article
> On 10/4/2011 11:50 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:
> > My worst kept secret is out.
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA
> Awesome!  Two things, though:
> 1.  When will this actually happen?  Is GCC 4.7 going to have GDC in it?

Can't say. Hopefully things will be in before the 4.7 development window closes.

> 2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release
> cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not
> going to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro
> or MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date
> and each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.

I would imagine that the official releases would be 1 frontend version behind 
DMD
- given that there is a 2 month period of bug-fixes only before release. Whilst
the development trunk/snapshots will remain in sync.

Again, can't really say - it's too soon to be asking this. :~)


Regards
Iain


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-05 Thread dsimcha

On 10/4/2011 11:50 PM, Iain Buclaw wrote:

My worst kept secret is out.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA


Awesome!  Two things, though:

1.  When will this actually happen?  Is GCC 4.7 going to have GDC in it?

2.  How will the impedance mismatch between DMD Front End's fast release 
cycle and GCC's slower release cycle be handled?  I'm definitely not 
going to use the "official" version of GDC packaged with my Linux distro 
or MinGW or whatever when the front end is several versions out of date 
and each front end update contains major bug fixes and additions to Phobos.


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-04 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2011-10-05 05:50, Iain Buclaw wrote:

My worst kept secret is out.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA


This is great news.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-04 Thread Caligo
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
> > My worst kept secret is out.
> >
> > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA
>
> *Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
> language.org, and since www.digitialmars.com only redirects on the main
> page,
> the link doesn't get redirected to the correct place.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis
>


Walter said he would fix this:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/Why_I_m_hesitating_to_switch_to_D_139517.html#N139559


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-04 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, October 05, 2011 03:50:35 Iain Buclaw wrote:
> My worst kept secret is out.
> 
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA

*Sigh* They gave the link to the old site rather than the d-programming-
language.org, and since www.digitialmars.com only redirects on the main page, 
the link doesn't get redirected to the correct place.

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: [Phoronix] Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC

2011-10-04 Thread Andrew Wiley
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Iain Buclaw  wrote:
> My worst kept secret is out.
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA
>

:D x 1000