Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 16:14:44 UTC, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 at 16:01:29 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

Is this beta available on Travis, or will it be?


The beta is available from https://dlang.org/install.sh as 
"ldc-1.1.0-beta2", so it should also be accessible on Travis.



On [1] the last reported version is 1.1.0-alpha1.


This might be due to LDC's LATEST file having been accidentally 
set to alpha 1 before the actual release – IIRC, that page just 
periodically scrapes the output of building with "ldc" on 
Travis. (Users wouldn't usually expect "ldc" to give them an 
alpha-quality compiler, although it seems we were lucky and the 
alpha was already stable enough for nobody to really notice.)


 — David


Thank you very much. I will try it as soon as possible.

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

Hi everyone,

LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
download!
This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.


We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)


As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:

http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org

Regards,
Kai


Is this beta available on Travis, or will it be?
On [1] the last reported version is 1.1.0-alpha1.

Thank you very much for your work.

[1] http://semitwist.com/travis-d-compilers

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Kai Nacke via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 at 00:27:03 UTC, Joakim wrote:

Great to see ldc catching up with dmd. :)


The thanks goes to the whole team! Without you this would not be 
possible...

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[H.Loom via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 11:18:22 UTC, ketmar wrote:

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 09:36:54 UTC, Temtaime wrote:

Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?


my K00l Ultimate Language has no compiler at all. so *ANY* 
compiler is "wasting". thanks for your perfect logic, this was 
what i missed in my arguments against writing compilers.


Yes but without this detail it would not work as expected.

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[kinke via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 12:22:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 01:28:39 UTC, Emre Temelkuran wrote:
It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
wasting power with parallel compilers. :(


LLVM lags in windows support, and GDC can generate faster code 
and supports more architectures.


I *seriously* doubt GDC's Windows support is better than LDC's. 
;) And comparing GDC/LDC to DMD is comparing apples to oranges 
due to the immense difference in backend/optimizer complexity and 
supported architectures.


The only missing biggie in LLVM for Windows right now is .pdb 
support (debuginfos), which is under active development. Apart 
from that, LLVM's Windows support is close to ideal, fitting 
nicely into the native MSVC toolchain (true for both clang and 
LDC).


I'd also argue that LDC can also generate faster code than GDC 
for some inputs. ;) I'd expect their performance to be more or 
less on par on average.

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 01:28:39 UTC, Emre Temelkuran wrote:
It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
wasting power with parallel compilers. :(


LLVM lags in windows support, and GDC can generate faster code 
and supports more architectures.

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Temtaime via Digitalmars-d-announce <
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via
>> Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library and
 supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
 over at digitalmars.D.ldc: http://forum.dlang.org/post/ns
 kepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai


>>> It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting
>>> power with parallel compilers. :(
>>>
>>>
>> Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
>> compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
>> message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of
>> man-power yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian
>> could do with some more help :).
>>
>> R
>>
>
> Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?
>

I disagree that it is wasting, however if I'm wrong then wasting is
important. Freedom to disagree and fork and the knowledge that there are
many LLVM developers, and many GCC developers etc, creates a sense of
stability and diversity in licensing and creativity.
Right now, you could go find some obscure gcc backend and start working on
getting gdc working with it. Or you could get LDC to work with some obscure
LLVM backend.

This creates opportunities for student thesis  (plural?)  and personal
experimentation. They all have different implementations with different
concepts and ideologies underlying them. Not everyone thinks the same way
or processes information the same.

Programming is an art, having only one paint brush or one paint brush
supplier would be weird for painters. The same goes for compilers and
software devs.

R

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On 5 August 2016 at 11:36, Temtaime via Digitalmars-d-announce
 wrote:
> On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via Digitalmars-d-announce
>> < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
 This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library and
 supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.

 We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
 (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

 As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
 over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
 http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org

 Regards,
 Kai

>>>
>>> It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting power
>>> with parallel compilers. :(
>>>
>>
>> Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
>> compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
>> message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of man-power
>> yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian could do with
>> some more help :).
>>
>> R
>
>
> Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?

Yes, they do.

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Temtaime via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Friday, 5 August 2016 at 06:13:54 UTC, Rory McGuire wrote:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via 
Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> 
wrote:



On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:


Hi everyone,

LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
download! This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend 
and standard library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.


We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
Linux/ARM

(armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)

As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc: 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org


Regards,
Kai



It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
wasting power with parallel compilers. :(




Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the 
three "real" D compilers have pretty much the same language 
implementation is an important message to the world about our 
language. GDC is lagging because of man-power yes, but that 
does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian could do with 
some more help :).


R


Definitely wasting. Have Rust and Go multiple compilers ?

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Rory McGuire via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Emre Temelkuran via Digitalmars-d-announce <
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for download!
>> This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard library
>> and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.
>>
>> We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, Linux/ARM
>> (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)
>>
>> As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary packages
>> over at digitalmars.D.ldc:
>> http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kai
>>
>
> It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're wasting power
> with parallel compilers. :(
>

Its not wasting, diversity is important. The fact that the three "real" D
compilers have pretty much the same language implementation is an important
message to the world about our language. GDC is lagging because of
man-power yes, but that does not mean we're wasting, it just means Ian
could do with some more help :).

R

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Emre Temelkuran via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

Hi everyone,

LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
download!
This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.


We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)


As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:

http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org

Regards,
Kai


It should definitely be the reference compiler. Why they're 
wasting power with parallel compilers. :(

Re: LDC 1.1.0-beta2 has been released!

[Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce]

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 at 20:12:59 UTC, Kai Nacke wrote:

Hi everyone,

LDC 1.1.0-beta2, the LLVM-based D compiler, is available for 
download!
This BETA release is based on the 2.071.1 frontend and standard 
library and supports LLVM 3.5-3.9.


We provide binaries for Linux, OX X, FreeBSD, Win32 & Win64, 
Linux/ARM (armv7hf), now bundled with DUB. :-)


As usual, you can find links to the changelog and the binary 
packages over at digitalmars.D.ldc:

http://forum.dlang.org/post/nskepdckljprrxsjb...@forum.dlang.org

Regards,
Kai


Great to see ldc catching up with dmd. :)