Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-04 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, June 03, 2017 14:22:11 David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-learn 
wrote:
> On Saturday, 3 June 2017 at 14:19:00 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> > Perhaps using the variadic template with a constraint on one
> > element trick will work. Ugly, but I think that will work.
>
> We could also finally fix the frontend to get around this. At
> DConf 2015, Walter officially agreed that this is a bug that
> needs fixing. ;)

He did agree, but AFAIK, no one has ever actually done the work, and I
suspect that unless Walter gets frustrated over the problem himself, he
won't get around to fixing it himself, but I don't know. I also have no idea
how easy or hard the implementation would be. It really should be fixed at
some point though, since it's clearly causing problems and consistently
forcing us to have workarounds in the standard library.

- Jonathan M Davis



Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-learn

On 2017-06-03 16:22, David Nadlinger wrote:


We could also finally fix the frontend to get around this. At DConf
2015, Walter officially agreed that this is a bug that needs fixing. ;)


That would be nice.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Saturday, 3 June 2017 at 14:19:00 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
Perhaps using the variadic template with a constraint on one 
element trick will work. Ugly, but I think that will work.


We could also finally fix the frontend to get around this. At 
DConf 2015, Walter officially agreed that this is a bug that 
needs fixing. ;)


 — David


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn

Jacob Carlborg wrote:

Perhaps using the variadic template with a constraint on one element 
trick will work. Ugly, but I think that will work.


yeah. that's what Phobos does, for example.


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d-learn

On 2017-06-03 16:03, Nicholas Wilson wrote:


I think an alias template parameter will work here as aliases take
anything(types, literals, symbols).


No, it doesn't work for types:

void foo(alias a)() {}

void main()
{
foo!(int)();
}

Results in:

Error: template instance foo!int does not match template declaration 
foo(alias a)()


Perhaps using the variadic template with a constraint on one element 
trick will work. Ugly, but I think that will work.


--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Saturday, 3 June 2017 at 13:17:46 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:

Is this a problem in D or a problem in DStep?


It's a limitation of DStep – for that use case, it would need to 
transform one of the macro arguments into a template argument 
rather than a runtime function parameter.


If you need to make the code work as-is, I suppose you could 
create some aliases like `enum u32 = __u32.init;` and pass these 
instead of the types – using runtime values just to convey their 
type.


 — David


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Saturday, 3 June 2017 at 13:17:46 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:

A stripped down problem to avoid fluff. The C macro:

#define FLOB(t) (sizeof(t))

Can be used in another macro:

#define THINGY(a, b) (_THING(a, FLOB(b)))

We can use this as in:

THINGY(10, __u32)

Now the D Way says use functions not macros. except that

size_t FLOB(T)(auto ref T t) { return t.sizeof; }

which is the result of DStep doesn't allow passing a type name 
as t.


Is this a problem in D or a problem in DStep?


I think an alias template parameter will work here as aliases 
take anything(types, literals, symbols).


Re: C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn

Russel Winder wrote:


Now the D Way says...

..use templates! ;-)

it is not really possible to guess what macro author means (to do that, 
dstep should be able to actually *understand* the code), so it tries to do 
what is used more often.


that is, it's dstep failed guess.


C macros vs D can't do the right thing

2017-06-03 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-learn
A stripped down problem to avoid fluff. The C macro:

#define FLOB(t) (sizeof(t))

Can be used in another macro:

#define THINGY(a, b) (_THING(a, FLOB(b)))

We can use this as in:

THINGY(10, __u32)

Now the D Way says use functions not macros. except that 

size_t FLOB(T)(auto ref T t) { return t.sizeof; }

which is the result of DStep doesn't allow passing a type name as t.

Is this a problem in D or a problem in DStep?

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