Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
Bienlein: Is there a way to get around this? Perhaps there are ways, but note that @nogc is meant mostly for stack-allocation. In general when in D you have to write lot of hairy code to do something, it means that in most cases you shouldn't do that something. When calling delete t the protection violation Don't use "delete", it's deprecated (despite it's not yet deprecated because D designers love to keep some important things in such Limbo for several years). Bye, bearophile
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On 2014-08-24 10:03, Bienlein wrote: I have omitted the code for the TestClass class to save space. Problem is that the compiler outputs this: Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'core.exception.onOutOfMemoryError' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'std.conv.emplace!(TestClass, ).emplace' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcDel!(TestClass).nogcDel' cannot call non-@nogc function 'object.destroy!(TestClass).destroy' Is there a way to get around this? @nogc is a very new attribute. The runtime and standard library have not been properly annotated with this attribute yet. As a workaround you could try copy implementation of these functions to you're own code and annotate them as appropriate. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 08:48:03 UTC, bearophile wrote: Perhaps there are ways, but note that @nogc is meant mostly for stack-allocation. Ah, I missed that. Thanks for telling me. I changed nogcDel now to null out the deallocated object: void nogcDel(T)(ref T obj) { import core.stdc.stdlib : free; // calls obj's destructor destroy(obj); // free memory occupied by object free(cast(void*)obj); obj = null; } And now I also get the dearly missed protection violation ;-).
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 08:48:03 UTC, bearophile wrote: Bienlein: things in such Limbo for several years). decades
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
Bienlein: @nogc is meant mostly for stack-allocation. Ah, I missed that. Thanks for telling me. @nogc is also for allocation from the C heap, despite this is less common :-) Bye, bearophile
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 09:29:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-24 10:03, Bienlein wrote: I have omitted the code for the TestClass class to save space. Problem is that the compiler outputs this: Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'core.exception.onOutOfMemoryError' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'std.conv.emplace!(TestClass, ).emplace' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcDel!(TestClass).nogcDel' cannot call non-@nogc function 'object.destroy!(TestClass).destroy' Is there a way to get around this? @nogc is a very new attribute. The runtime and standard library have not been properly annotated with this attribute yet. As a workaround you could try copy implementation of these functions to you're own code and annotate them as appropriate. Shouldn't emplace and destroy infer their attributes instead of strictly annotating them as nogc.
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On 2014-08-24 14:18, Kagamin wrote: Shouldn't emplace and destroy infer their attributes instead of strictly annotating them as nogc. If they are templates, I guess they should. I don't know how good the compiler is at inferring attributes. I also haven't looked at the source code for these functions so I don't know if there's anything stopping them from begin @nogc. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 13:27:01 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-24 14:18, Kagamin wrote: Shouldn't emplace and destroy infer their attributes instead of strictly annotating them as nogc. If they are templates, I guess they should. I don't know how good the compiler is at inferring attributes. I also haven't looked at the source code for these functions so I don't know if there's anything stopping them from begin @nogc. emplace calls constructor, and constructor can't be realistically required to be nogc. It depends on the constructor. Similar for destroy.
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 08:03:11 UTC, Bienlein wrote: Hello, I was having a look at the new nogc annotation and therefore wrote some code that creates an instance on the heap bypassing the GC (code adapted from http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/2377217c7870). Problem is that calls to call the class' constructor, destructor and others can't be called anymore once nogc is used. So the question is how to get manual allocation and deallocation done with using nogc. Here is the experimental code: @nogc T nogcNew(T, Args...) (Args args) { import std.conv : emplace; import core.stdc.stdlib : malloc; // get class size of class object in bytes auto size = __traits(classInstanceSize, T); // allocate memory for the object auto memory = malloc(size)[0..size]; if(!memory) { import core.exception : onOutOfMemoryError; onOutOfMemoryError(); } // call T's constructor and emplace instance on // newly allocated memory return emplace!(T, Args)(memory, args); } @nogc void nogcDel(T)(T obj) { import core.stdc.stdlib : free; // calls obj's destructor destroy(obj); // free memory occupied by object free(cast(void*)obj); } @nogc void main() { TestClass test = nogcNew!TestClass(); test.x = 123; nogcDel(test); test.x = 456; // no protection violation ?! // remove @nogc to run this TestClass t = new TestClass(); t.x = 789; delete t; t.x = 678; // protection violation as expected } I have omitted the code for the TestClass class to save space. Problem is that the compiler outputs this: Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'core.exception.onOutOfMemoryError' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'std.conv.emplace!(TestClass, ).emplace' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcDel!(TestClass).nogcDel' cannot call non-@nogc function 'object.destroy!(TestClass).destroy' Is there a way to get around this? Then the test.x = 456; did not cause a protection violation although the instance was deallocated before calling nogcDel. Something with the deallocation in nogcDel seems not to work. Some hint appreciated on this. When calling delete t the protection violation happens on the next line as expected. Thanks a lot, Bienlein @nogc is *no GC*, it has nothing to do with where you allocate from, no matter how some would choose to interpret it (I use it to mean 'no heap' pretty often in my own projects, though, can be useful). You can mark it @nogc by wrapping the non-@nogc stuff in a function and casting it, but you *absolutely* must be sure GC is not used in any called functions. You could possibly do that by requiring T's constructor to be @nogc, not sure if the other functions can use GC or not. Also, your function seems to be written only for classes, if this is intended, you should have an if(is(T == class)) template constraint there.
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On 04/09/14 22:30, Kagamin wrote: emplace calls constructor, and constructor can't be realistically required to be nogc. It depends on the constructor. Similar for destroy. But if the constructor is @nogc or if there's a default constructor. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 09:29:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-24 10:03, Bienlein wrote: I have omitted the code for the TestClass class to save space. Problem is that the compiler outputs this: Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'core.exception.onOutOfMemoryError' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'std.conv.emplace!(TestClass, ).emplace' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcDel!(TestClass).nogcDel' cannot call non-@nogc function 'object.destroy!(TestClass).destroy' Is there a way to get around this? @nogc is a very new attribute. The runtime and standard library have not been properly annotated with this attribute yet. As a workaround you could try copy implementation of these functions to you're own code and annotate them as appropriate. The real issue here is actually the *language*. Exceptions and Errors are GC allocated, so if you try to "check" your no-GC allocation, you'll use the GC... A possible workaround is to preemptively static allocate the Error. However, this can cause issues if you chain Errors, or re-enter your function while throwing.
Re: How to get nogc to work with manual memory allocation
On Friday, 5 September 2014 at 06:43:56 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote: On Sunday, 24 August 2014 at 09:29:53 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2014-08-24 10:03, Bienlein wrote: I have omitted the code for the TestClass class to save space. Problem is that the compiler outputs this: Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'core.exception.onOutOfMemoryError' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcNew!(TestClass, ).nogcNew' cannot call non-@nogc function 'std.conv.emplace!(TestClass, ).emplace' Error: @nogc function 'main.nogcDel!(TestClass).nogcDel' cannot call non-@nogc function 'object.destroy!(TestClass).destroy' Is there a way to get around this? @nogc is a very new attribute. The runtime and standard library have not been properly annotated with this attribute yet. As a workaround you could try copy implementation of these functions to you're own code and annotate them as appropriate. The real issue here is actually the *language*. Exceptions and Errors are GC allocated, so if you try to "check" your no-GC allocation, you'll use the GC... A possible workaround is to preemptively static allocate the Error. However, this can cause issues if you chain Errors, or re-enter your function while throwing. It was also discussed to exempt `new Error` (and assert) from the @nogc restriction.