Re: Would you recommend TDPL today?

2024-01-17 Thread Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 02:25:32 UTC, matheus wrote:
Hi, I'm mostly a lurker in these Forums but sometimes I post 
here and there, my first language was C and I still use today 
together with my own library (A Helper) which is like a poor 
version of STB (https://github.com/nothings/stb).


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I suggest also Ali book, Programming in D, is excellent [1]

[1] http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.html


Re: Would you recommend TDPL today?

2024-01-16 Thread matheus via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 02:25:32 UTC, matheus wrote:

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I'll reply to myself but I just would like to say thanks to 
Jonathan M Davis and Mike Shah.


I started with TDPL but I'll fill my knowledge with the other 
suggestions you gave me.


Thanks again,

Matheus.


Re: Would you recommend TDPL today?

2024-01-15 Thread Mike Shah via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 02:58:03 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:
On Monday, January 15, 2024 7:25:32 PM MST matheus via 
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:

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that have since changed or which were never implemented (e.g. 
synchronized classes never became a thing; synchronized 
functions still exist, but TDPL talks about them being replaced 
with synchronized classes and that never happened - and likely 
will never happen). There's also an errata for it, but AFAIK, 
that just fixes some mistakes it; it doesn't update it. This 
wiki entry tries to list some of the differences, but I expect 
that it also is rather out-of-date at this point:


https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL

So, TDPL is a good resource, but you have to take into account 
the fact that some of the details are wrong, which you may not 
want to do. In that respect, Ali's book would likely work 
better:


http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.html

It was written more recently, and I'm pretty sure that Ali has 
updated it on some basis. I fully expect that there are things 
that you'd get out of TDPL that you wouldn't get from Ali's 
book, so there's definitely something to said for reading both, 
but again, whether that makes sense largely depends on whether 
you want to deal with figuring out which parts of TDPL are 
still valid.


- Jonathan M Davis


I'll also add that Adam's Book (D Cookbook) and Mike Parkers Book 
(Learning D) are both excellent. Mike's is mostly up to date, 
minus I think the post-blit function calls. Adam's has lots of 
various samples (may be good to read alongside, or otherwise 
after Ali or Mike's book once you have a feel for the language).


Re: Would you recommend TDPL today?

2024-01-15 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Monday, January 15, 2024 7:25:32 PM MST matheus via Digitalmars-d-learn 
wrote:
> Hi, I'm mostly a lurker in these Forums but sometimes I post here
> and there, my first language was C and I still use today together
> with my own library (A Helper) which is like a poor version of
> STB (https://github.com/nothings/stb).
>
> I usually use D language sometimes as C on steroids, using AA and
> GC and some other features, but I never entered in this realm
> very deeply.
>
> I always wanted to dive in and I always postponed, but I decided
> to go a littler deeper, and I thought about going with The D
> Programming Language, but as I see it is from 2010, and I wonder
> if is it a good resource to go currently?
>
> I don't care about the age of the book, since I learned C in late
> 90's with Kernighan and Ritchie "The C Programming Language", but
> at time C was "stable", now I think D maybe has evolved much more
> in these 14 years, so I'm a bit on the fence.
>
> Any thoughts or recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matheus.

>From what I recall, it's mostly still correct, but there are things in there
that have since changed or which were never implemented (e.g. synchronized
classes never became a thing; synchronized functions still exist, but TDPL
talks about them being replaced with synchronized classes and that never
happened - and likely will never happen). There's also an errata for it, but
AFAIK, that just fixes some mistakes it; it doesn't update it. This wiki
entry tries to list some of the differences, but I expect that it also is
rather out-of-date at this point:

https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL

So, TDPL is a good resource, but you have to take into account the fact that
some of the details are wrong, which you may not want to do. In that
respect, Ali's book would likely work better:

http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.html

It was written more recently, and I'm pretty sure that Ali has updated it on
some basis. I fully expect that there are things that you'd get out of TDPL
that you wouldn't get from Ali's book, so there's definitely something to
said for reading both, but again, whether that makes sense largely depends
on whether you want to deal with figuring out which parts of TDPL are still
valid.

- Jonathan M Davis