Re: question about keeeping reference to toStringz()

2018-05-31 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Thursday, 31 May 2018 at 02:10:53 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

On Thursday, 31 May 2018 at 01:12:34 UTC, Dr.No wrote:



is foo() is being called from a thread, how I am supposed to 
keep cstring "alive"?


As Jonathan explained, you don't have to worry about it if 
foo() itself doesn't assign the pointer to anything internally. 
That will be the case for most C functions. Well-behaved 
functions that need to keep the string around will copy it. 
That said, you need to be sure you understand fully what any C 
function you call is doing with the strings, or pointers to any 
memory allocated by the GC, that you pass to them.


In the rare cases where the C function does keep the pointer 
and you do need to keep a reference (if you don't have one 
already), the simplest approach is this one:


import core.memory;
GC.addRoot(cstring);

Then, when you no longer need it:
GC.removeRoot(cstring);

https://dlang.org/phobos/core_memory.html#.GC.addRoot


Actually thank you for this.

I had no idea you could do that with the GC.


Re: question about keeeping reference to toStringz()

2018-05-30 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Thursday, 31 May 2018 at 01:12:34 UTC, Dr.No wrote:



is foo() is being called from a thread, how I am supposed to 
keep cstring "alive"?


As Jonathan explained, you don't have to worry about it if foo() 
itself doesn't assign the pointer to anything internally. That 
will be the case for most C functions. Well-behaved functions 
that need to keep the string around will copy it. That said, you 
need to be sure you understand fully what any C function you call 
is doing with the strings, or pointers to any memory allocated by 
the GC, that you pass to them.


In the rare cases where the C function does keep the pointer and 
you do need to keep a reference (if you don't have one already), 
the simplest approach is this one:


import core.memory;
GC.addRoot(cstring);

Then, when you no longer need it:
GC.removeRoot(cstring);

https://dlang.org/phobos/core_memory.html#.GC.addRoot





Re: question about keeeping reference to toStringz()

2018-05-30 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 01:12:34 Dr.No via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> On Wednesday, 30 May 2018 at 20:43:48 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> > On 05/30/2018 01:09 PM, Dr.No wrote:
> > > consider a C function with this prototype:
> > >> void foo(const char *baa);
> > >
> > > Does it means I should do:
> > >> string s = ...;
> > >> auto cstring = s.toStringz;
> > >> foo(cstring);
> > >
> > > rather just:
> > >> foo(s.toStringz);
> > >
> > > ?
> >
> > It depends. cstring method above is not sufficient if cstring's
> > life is shorter than the C library's use:
> >
> > void bar() {
> >
> > string s = ...;
> > auto cstring = s.toStringz;
> > foo(cstring);
> >
> > } // <- cstring is gone
> >
> > What if the library saved that pointer while performing foo()?
> >
> > If cstring is in module-scope or in a container (e.g. an array)
> > that's in module-scope then it's fine. But then, you would have
> > to remove it from that container when the C library does not
> > need that pointer anymore.
> >
> > Ali
>
> is foo() is being called from a thread, how I am supposed to keep
> cstring "alive"?

If it's being passed to foo, then it should be on the stack until foo
returns, in which case, the GC should see it when it scans. It's when foo
could keep a reference to the pointer that you have a problem, since then as
soon as foo returns, the pointer you passed to foo won't be on the stack
anymore. So, in that case, you'd have to store the pointer somewhere in D
code so that the GC will see it when scanning.

Or are you concerned about something like spinning up a thread, calling foo,
and then exiting the thread while foo stores the pointer somewhere? If
that's the case, then you'll need to store the pointer in a shared or
__gshared variable in D code so that you can still refer to it after the
thread terminates.

- Jonathan M Davis




Re: question about keeeping reference to toStringz()

2018-05-30 Thread Dr.No via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 30 May 2018 at 20:43:48 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

On 05/30/2018 01:09 PM, Dr.No wrote:

> consider a C function with this prototype:
>> void foo(const char *baa);
>
> Does it means I should do:
>
>> string s = ...;
>> auto cstring = s.toStringz;
>> foo(cstring);
>
> rather just:
>
>> foo(s.toStringz);
>
> ?

It depends. cstring method above is not sufficient if cstring's 
life is shorter than the C library's use:


void bar() {
string s = ...;
auto cstring = s.toStringz;
foo(cstring);

} // <- cstring is gone

What if the library saved that pointer while performing foo()?

If cstring is in module-scope or in a container (e.g. an array) 
that's in module-scope then it's fine. But then, you would have 
to remove it from that container when the C library does not 
need that pointer anymore.


Ali


is foo() is being called from a thread, how I am supposed to keep 
cstring "alive"?


Re: question about keeeping reference to toStringz()

2018-05-30 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-learn

On 05/30/2018 01:09 PM, Dr.No wrote:

> consider a C function with this prototype:
>> void foo(const char *baa);
>
> Does it means I should do:
>
>> string s = ...;
>> auto cstring = s.toStringz;
>> foo(cstring);
>
> rather just:
>
>> foo(s.toStringz);
>
> ?

It depends. cstring method above is not sufficient if cstring's life is 
shorter than the C library's use:


void bar() {
string s = ...;
auto cstring = s.toStringz;
foo(cstring);

} // <- cstring is gone

What if the library saved that pointer while performing foo()?

If cstring is in module-scope or in a container (e.g. an array) that's 
in module-scope then it's fine. But then, you would have to remove it 
from that container when the C library does not need that pointer anymore.


Ali