Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-10-27 Thread SourceCode
But what if i had something like this:

abstract class A {
package:
   abstract void _test() const;
}

class B : public A {
package:
override void _test() const { writeln("Call B::test"); }
}

class C {
public:
void do_something(const B b) {
b._test();
}
}

That only work if i define the method public. But Imo that must
work, because that is imo the correct use of package.


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-09 Thread Christophe
Christophe, dans le message (digitalmars.D.learn:29394), a écrit :
> Andrej Mitrovic , dans le message (digitalmars.D.learn:29388), a écrit :
>> abstract class Foo
>> {
>> package void test();
>> }
>> 
>> class Bar : Foo
>> {
>> override package void test() { }
>> }
>> 
>> function test.Bar.test cannot override a non-virtual function
>> 
>> TDPL says package can only be used at class-level (i.e. package class
>> Bar : Foo), outside classes or inside a struct.
>> 
>> I want to hide a virtual method from client code, but another free
>> function in a different module but in the same package as these
>> classes needs access to that method. Are there any technical reasons
>> why package is not allowed for virtual methods?
> 
> private function are not virtual.
> "All non-static non-private non-template member functions are virtual"
> The spirit of this is that if a function is private, it should not be 
> seen by its subclasses, which makes sens. However, this is a bit 
> inconsistent with the fact that it can actually be seen by the whole 
> file. It seems that package function inherited from the same behavior, 
> enlarging this inconsistency.
> 
> Your request seem to be reasonable, so I would say the langage should be 
> improved in two ways:
> - private (and package) function can be specifically made virtual, but  
> the problem is that virtual is not a keyword in d, and that would be 
> weird to have to write final sometimes, and virtual some other times.
> - package function are virtual by default, which is the best solution 
> IMO. It's not a huge problem if private methods cannot be virtual, if 
> you can make them package virtual.
> 
> In the meantime, I would make the method public, but prefix the name 
> with an underscore to indicate it is morally private. I agree that it is 
> relying on the client's good will.
> 
> -- 
> Christophe

I forgot about protected. Making the function protected may be fine.


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-09 Thread Christophe
Andrej Mitrovic , dans le message (digitalmars.D.learn:29388), a écrit :
> abstract class Foo
> {
> package void test();
> }
> 
> class Bar : Foo
> {
> override package void test() { }
> }
> 
> function test.Bar.test cannot override a non-virtual function
> 
> TDPL says package can only be used at class-level (i.e. package class
> Bar : Foo), outside classes or inside a struct.
> 
> I want to hide a virtual method from client code, but another free
> function in a different module but in the same package as these
> classes needs access to that method. Are there any technical reasons
> why package is not allowed for virtual methods?

private function are not virtual.
"All non-static non-private non-template member functions are virtual"
The spirit of this is that if a function is private, it should not be 
seen by its subclasses, which makes sens. However, this is a bit 
inconsistent with the fact that it can actually be seen by the whole 
file. It seems that package function inherited from the same behavior, 
enlarging this inconsistency.

Your request seem to be reasonable, so I would say the langage should be 
improved in two ways:
- private (and package) function can be specifically made virtual, but  
the problem is that virtual is not a keyword in d, and that would be 
weird to have to write final sometimes, and virtual some other times.
- package function are virtual by default, which is the best solution 
IMO. It's not a huge problem if private methods cannot be virtual, if 
you can make them package virtual.

In the meantime, I would make the method public, but prefix the name 
with an underscore to indicate it is morally private. I agree that it is 
relying on the client's good will.

-- 
Christophe


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-09 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Friday, September 09, 2011 07:15:09 Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:23:00 -0400, Jonathan M Davis 
> 
> wrote:
> > Neither private nor protected functions are ever virtual at this point,
> 
> Jonathan meant to say neither private nor *package* functions.
> 
> protected functions are virtual.

LOL. Ouch. Thanks for the correction. Yes private and package are not virual. 
Protected definitely is. It would be pretty useless otherwise.

- Jonathan M Davis


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-09 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:23:00 -0400, Jonathan M Davis   
wrote:



Neither private nor protected functions are ever virtual at this point,


Jonathan meant to say neither private nor *package* functions.

protected functions are virtual.

-Steve


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-08 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
Thanks. I'll refactor my code to eliminate the need for package in
this case. I was going to use it as a quick workaround anyway. :)


Re: package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-08 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Friday, September 09, 2011 03:05:05 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> abstract class Foo
> {
> package void test();
> }
> 
> class Bar : Foo
> {
> override package void test() { }
> }
> 
> function test.Bar.test cannot override a non-virtual function
> 
> TDPL says package can only be used at class-level (i.e. package class
> Bar : Foo), outside classes or inside a struct.
> 
> I want to hide a virtual method from client code, but another free
> function in a different module but in the same package as these
> classes needs access to that method. Are there any technical reasons
> why package is not allowed for virtual methods?

Neither private nor protected functions are ever virtual at this point, though 
it is likely that that will be changed to match TDPL. There are a number of 
bugs on the matter. Among them are

http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4542
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3581
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3258

- Jonathan M Davis


package access specifier not usable within a class

2011-09-08 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
abstract class Foo
{
package void test();
}

class Bar : Foo
{
override package void test() { }
}

function test.Bar.test cannot override a non-virtual function

TDPL says package can only be used at class-level (i.e. package class
Bar : Foo), outside classes or inside a struct.

I want to hide a virtual method from client code, but another free
function in a different module but in the same package as these
classes needs access to that method. Are there any technical reasons
why package is not allowed for virtual methods?