Re: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE

2006-12-20 Thread Simon Brown
OK,

That's a fair point - maybe in my stuff I should add the option of always 
sending in lowercase, and displaying text to be sent in uppercase.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Well lets see with me, bad eye sight makes it easier to read. I am a
 old RTTY operator when there was no such thing as lower case letters
 on a keyboard (love the smell of oiled paper). Sometimes it is just
 easier then looking for the shift key. 



[digitalradio] lowercase to UPPERCASE translator with slashed zero

2006-12-20 Thread expeditionradio

 Simon HB9DRVwrote:

 That's a fair point - maybe in my stuff I should add the option of
always
 sending in lowercase, and displaying text to be sent in uppercase.



Hi Simon,

Perhaps when you set up that lowercase to uppercase translator option
you could make any uppercase that is transmitted or received show on the
screen as Bold uppercase.

Example:
Ham Radio  =  HAM RADIO

At the same time, the 0 (zero) character could be shown as slashed
zero. If the preceding character is bold then the slashed zero character
would be bolded.

73---Bonnie BA7/KQ6XA

.



Re: [digitalradio] lowercase to UPPERCASE translator with slashed zero

2006-12-20 Thread Simon Brown
Now that is a *really* good idea!

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
  - Original Message - 
  From: expeditionradio 

   Simon HB9DRVwrote:
  
   That's a fair point - maybe in my stuff I should add the option of always 
   sending in lowercase, and displaying text to be sent in uppercase.
   
   

  Hi Simon,

  Perhaps when you set up that lowercase to uppercase translator option you 
could make any uppercase that is transmitted or received show on the screen as 
Bold uppercase. 

  Example:
  Ham Radio  =  HAM RADIO

  At the same time, the 0 (zero) character could be shown as slashed zero. If 
the preceding character is bold then the slashed zero character would be 
bolded. 

  73---Bonnie BA7/KQ6XA

  .
   

Re: [digitalradio] GRUMBLE

2006-12-20 Thread w6ids
Yessir!  I believe that http://groups.google.co.uk/group/eupskclub?hl=en-GB
will work for the overall stuff.  I also belong to EPC.  I have EPC#058 and
have found them to be a nice group of folks from what I've read.

For posting messages, as a member of the mail list, you would use
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN

- Original Message - 
From: Simon Brown
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] GRUMBLE


My own eyesight dropped off a tad 2 or 3 years ago, it's very good indeed
except when reading a book with small print. I'll take all this into
consideration.

Is there a EPC mailing list? I'm a member (1114) but that's as far as it
goes.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 H. I just think it's just a habit carried over from RTTY,
 since PSK is keyboard-based like RTTY. I've read some of the
 replies on this to you; still looks like keeping it looking like RTTY.

 BTW, your DM780 program is causing quite a stir amongst the
 EPC membership. Looks like MixW is going to fade off into the
 sunset, Sir.


 



[digitalradio] Re: lowercase to UPPERCASE translator with slashed zero

2006-12-20 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Simon,

One more thing for the lowercase to uppercase translation:

Since numbers are not lowercase or uppercase sensitive...

If the preceding alphabetic character is bold, then all numeric
characters immediately following it should be bolded. Bold is turned
off if after a _space, punctuation, or other lowercase character;
except / forward slash.
 

73 Bonnie BA7/KQ6XA

.




RE: [digitalradio] Re: Digital Sound Cards -- What IS the best?

2006-12-20 Thread Peter G. Viscarola

While I agree with your conclusion (and the moral of the story), Alex
(KR1ST), I don't agree with some of your specific comments on the audio
side of the world.

The radio's passband curve is something I hadn't considered and you've
raised a good point.  Very cool, thanks for that.  However, regarding
your sound card comments:


A 5khz sinewave sampled at 10 kHz, as mentioned in the example 
above, will be reconstructed (either in memory to feed 
applications or to, say, a DAC) as a square wave. At 48 or 96 
kHz sampling rate, the resulting representation of the 
sinewave will look a whole lot more like the original sine 
wave than the one sampled at 10 kHz.


Obviously -- The Nyquist frequency is the MINIMUM sampling frequency.  I
agree that sampling a pure 5KHz sign wave (with no added noise) at 96KHz
would be a good thing, cuz you'd get a nice smooth curve.  But sampling
a complex signal that contains information above 5KHz at 96KHz is going
to get you a lot extraneous information (noise and artifacts) that
you're just going to have to deal with later.

 It seems to me that the key criteria for choosing a sound card for 
 digital use would be:
 
 - Flat frequency response from (some low frequency such as) 100HZ to 
 5KHZ

Every card has this property.


I guess it depends on one's definition of flat, yes?  I don't consider
+/- 1db flat

 - Dynamic range in the area of 100db (and hence, a very low noise
 floor)

The noise floor of what?


The sound card as used in the overall sound system.  Some sound cards
have an abysmal noise floor, with self-generated and induced noise (from
the computer power supplied, graphics card, cable routing, etc) that I'd
guess (without measuring) is on the order of -30dbFS.  Again, while I
admit I haven't measured this (wouldn't be hard), just taking the output
from a cheap or poorly installed sound card and plugging it into a good
audio system demonstrates this to be the case: Hisss... Just
horrific.

Dynamic range is defined by the sample size, the number of 
bits per sample. 

W the MAXIMUM dynamic range of which the card is capable is
defined by the sample size.  The overall dynamic range of the sound card
had to be within this value, but is limited by other factors (such as
internal noise).

 Additionally, it seems like it would probably be a good idea if the 
 sound card had filtering to remove frequencies below 100Hz and above 
 5KHz.

There's no need for the sound card to do so. This is already 
done in the radio. 


Assuming the audio signal path in the radio is well filtered, doesn't
generate any noise above 5KHz, and the cables between the radio and
computer are well shielded, I agree.


A flat response is not as necessary for a narrow bandwidth 
mode like PSK31 or CW,


Except when you want to look at a 5K swath of bandwidth and select a
signal on your waterfall to which to listen, right?

modes. People should be much more worried about a flat 
passband curve of the IF filters than the frequency response 
of the sound card. The latter is usually extremely flat, while 
the former is usually not. 


Ah...  I thank you for this, because this is something I wasn't aware
of. Though I *have* seen people refer to this issue in passing, I didn't
really understand what they were referring until seeing your graphs.
Very cool, and much appreciated.

Good input, thanks,

de Peter K1PGV


RE: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE

2006-12-20 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Danny,

I think you have pinned it down...

I think most of us who run a normal keyboard-to-keyboard QSO need less than 40 
(maybe 60) WPM but want a really robust mode...something I can run QRP on and 
still get 100% error free copy...Ok, 100 watts.  Hi Hi...and a dipole on 80/40.

But then I work a net where I really want to punch through a large amount of 
text (maybe 3  - 6 pages) in a short amount of time or a delimited file of data 
from my experiments.  This is rather time sensitive because I'm trying to get 
everyone on the same page using the same parameters with existing propagation 
conditions.  There might be 3 -6 pages for 2 or 3 different groups/individuals. 
 So I need to get this through with virually no errors and at least at 200 
WPM...more throughput would be better...and most of the stations are running 
portable and only 100 watt transceivers and have no access to the Internet.

As I have said, I really see two conditions...one for keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs 
and/or DX/contesting and another for pushing through larger amounts of data 
that is time sensitive.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:11 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE


I had that in the back of my mind too.  What is with all this thinking on
speed these days.  People want faster digital, faster cw, even faster voice
contacts.  Look at the normal QSO of today:  N7DC DE XU1 59 tu QRZ?
Hey I might like to know the guys name, his QTH,  What gear is he using,
antenna?

Once in a great while you actually meet someone on PSK that types his info,
live and on-line, instead of hitting a Macro button and giving you the same
information he just gave 73 other peope before you.  He might actually ask
you a question about something other than antenna and power.  He might be a
human.

Even the darn cars on the road seem to want to go faster than the driver
behind the wheel can drive them (at least safely).  Who needs a car with a
speedometer that reads 150 mph?  The speed limit on ALL US roads is somewhat
under that (by about 70 mph or more.)  Not to say that too many of those
drivers want to push the vehicle up and beyond that posted on the sides of
the road - but that is another story.

If I was a professional communicator (and I was for 29 years) I would indeed
want all the speed I could get, in order to push those groups thru so I
could sit down and rest a bit- away from keyboards, keys, switches, antennas
and so forth and so forth.  But - I am an amateur (still) and dont need to
push messages - just talk to friends, old and new, along the way.  So what
if I take an extra 2 minutes in a 5 minute conversation.  Its a HOBBY
people.  Slow down - Take a breath - enjoy the conversation - quit pushing
each other off the information highway.

I learned to type on a standard school typewriter, and could type 70 plus
wpm when there.  In the army, I had to show I could type 25wpm (woopie-do)
before graduation from radio school.  At that time, it wasnt a standard
typewritter, but a MILL.  Thats a standard typewriter, but with all CAPS on
the keys.  No lower case characters at all.  You typed received code on ALL
CAPS.  It was easier to read.  CW doesnt have upper and lower case
characters.  Then it was on to RTTY, and again ALL CAPS.  RTTY doesnt have
upper and lower case letters either.Then came along computers, and here
they throw a wrench in the game.  The digital game.  Computers DO have upper
and lower case, so we are back to that again.  By this time, my typing is
shot.  I forget to hit the Shift key, OR GET THE DARN CAPS LOCK HIT INSTEAD.
Then someone comes along and says STOP SHOUTING AT ME.  What does that mean?
I wasnt shouting at anyone.  Just goes to show how little they actually
know.

What is comes down to:   Quit complaining if someone talks in all caps.
dont complain if they are not a typist and never hit the shift bar and dont
complain if they dont hit enough periods or miss a question or keep typing
without stopping a sentence and starting another one if they also forget to
tell you when a sentence ends or starts who cares they are still
communicatingSOME GUYS USE ALL CAPS, BECAUSE LIKE ME, THEY LEARNED
THAT WAY AND ITS EASIER TO SEE, SO WHO REALLY CARES.  See there I go
shouting at you again.

OK - lets go work VU7  --- Well -  At least lets go see if we ever hear them
anyway!  It sure would be nice to hear them long enough to take a crack at
sending back and having them here us.I dont care if they do talk 20 wpm,
or 50.  I just want them to talk to me!



Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: 

Re: [digitalradio] 110 baud packet test tonight

2006-12-20 Thread Steinar Aanesland



MULTIPSK Version 4.1.2

http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm


73 de LA5VNA Steinar





John Bradley wrote:

 so what software are u using for 100 baud packet? can't find anything 
 that slow on MixW
  
 calling u on 300baud packet right now as of 0115Z
  
 john
 ve5mu
  

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Andrew O'Brien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:35 PM
 *Subject:* [digitalradio] 110 baud packet test tonight

 I, and a few others, will be testing 110 baud packet on 3590 plus
 1000
 Hz AF tonight as of 0100 UTC until 0300 UTC.
 Andy K3UK

  




[digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread John Bradley
Terry, VE5TLW and I were using (fooling with?) 110 baud packet this AM on 20M. 
Should be noted that we are about 1km apart, although I switched over to my 
dummy load and reduced power so he was hearing me at S3, or just above his 
noise.

Couple of observations;

*Had to change the Dwait values and TXdelay values to 80 , (found under 
options)increasing the delay slightly seemed to work better, although some of 
that could be due to desensing the rigs a bit, being so close.

* After a connect, when sending a test text file, 110 baud sent the entire file 
in one long packet. worked Ok 

* After listing each other in the repeater list ie VE5MU-0, then the other 
station would repeat the beacon message when in APRS beacon mode. Would not 
repeat connect attempts. repeater needs a fairly good signal to work.

Interesting mode, and very interested in how it will work under poor conditions.


So , as of 1830Z, have my rig on 14077USB, and sitting on 1000hz. Beacon every 
3 minutes, and the responder on , and a test message stored in
message 1. Will leave it on for the next couple of hours and see what happens. 

Later will try setting it up as a repeater, where you would list VE5MU-0 as a 
repeater
then TX your beacon message and see if you can hear it coming back will try 
3590 this evening, too

John
VE5MU







Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread Joe Ivey
John,

I was able to connect and this what I copied. not sure if you got my reply pr 
not.
Joe
W4JSI

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Bradley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Terry White 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:52 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test



  Terry, VE5TLW and I were using (fooling with?) 110 baud packet this AM on 
20M. Should be noted that we are about 1km apart, although I switched over to 
my dummy load and reduced power so he was hearing me at S3, or just above his 
noise.

  Couple of observations;

  *Had to change the Dwait values and TXdelay values to 80 , (found under 
options)increasing the delay slightly seemed to work better, although some of 
that could be due to desensing the rigs a bit, being so close.

  * After a connect, when sending a test text file, 110 baud sent the entire 
file in one long packet. worked Ok 

  * After listing each other in the repeater list ie VE5MU-0, then the other 
station would repeat the beacon message when in APRS beacon mode. Would not 
repeat connect attempts. repeater needs a fairly good signal to work.

  Interesting mode, and very interested in how it will work under poor 
conditions.


  So , as of 1830Z, have my rig on 14077USB, and sitting on 1000hz. Beacon 
every 3 minutes, and the responder on , and a test message stored in
  message 1. Will leave it on for the next couple of hours and see what 
happens. 

  Later will try setting it up as a repeater, where you would list VE5MU-0 as a 
repeater
  then TX your beacon message and see if you can hear it coming back will try 
3590 this evening, too

  John
  VE5MU






   

Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread John Bradley
Heard you try to connect , and am surprised you were able to, since band was so 
bad. 

Will try later on 80M and see how the band is there tonight. 

John
VE5MU



  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Ivey 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test



  John,

  I was able to connect and this what I copied. not sure if you got my reply pr 
not.
  Joe
  W4JSI






   


Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John,

RR for all about you experimentation.

I recommend the following: to do 110 bauds Packet, set the options PACLEN to 40 
and MAXFRAME to 1. For calls, it is advised to put the RS ID on duty to allow 
the other Hams to identify the mode and the exact frequency.

PACLEN to 40 so as to limit the duration of the frames and the probability of 
bit error. Surely 20 or 30 would be perhaps better. 
MAXFRAME to 1 because is useless to send more than one frame as in HF the 
probability to have a failure is high. And because if you send several frames, 
as there is no selective REJECT in AX25, you are going to send again all your 
frames good or not...
Note: this apply to connected 110 bauds Packet. In APRS, you have no choice: 
you send only one frame with all the position and weather information, included 
the message.

73
Patrick



 





  - Original Message - 
  From: John Bradley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Terry White 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:52 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test



  Terry, VE5TLW and I were using (fooling with?) 110 baud packet this AM on 
20M. Should be noted that we are about 1km apart, although I switched over to 
my dummy load and reduced power so he was hearing me at S3, or just above his 
noise.

  Couple of observations;

  *Had to change the Dwait values and TXdelay values to 80 , (found under 
options)increasing the delay slightly seemed to work better, although some of 
that could be due to desensing the rigs a bit, being so close.

  * After a connect, when sending a test text file, 110 baud sent the entire 
file in one long packet. worked Ok 

  * After listing each other in the repeater list ie VE5MU-0, then the other 
station would repeat the beacon message when in APRS beacon mode. Would not 
repeat connect attempts. repeater needs a fairly good signal to work.

  Interesting mode, and very interested in how it will work under poor 
conditions.


  So , as of 1830Z, have my rig on 14077USB, and sitting on 1000hz. Beacon 
every 3 minutes, and the responder on , and a test message stored in
  message 1. Will leave it on for the next couple of hours and see what 
happens. 

  Later will try setting it up as a repeater, where you would list VE5MU-0 as a 
repeater
  then TX your beacon message and see if you can hear it coming back will try 
3590 this evening, too

  John
  VE5MU






   

[digitalradio] Strange

2006-12-20 Thread John Champa
UPS delivered my new IC-2200 2M FM xcvr today!  ~$160

The tiny little UT-118 unit for D-Star is match box size!~$200

Doesn't seem right!  Then I remembered the usual radio rule of thumb:

The smaller the package, the more it costs!

Think I will pretend the $20 rebate is on the tiny package.  (HI)

John
K8OCL




Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread John Bradley
thanks Patrick, made the necessary adjustments and will try it later on 80M

thanks again for all your work!!


John
VE5MU

  - Original Message - 
  From: Patrick Lindecker 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test



  Hello John,

  RR for all about you experimentation.

  I recommend the following: to do 110 bauds Packet, set the options PACLEN to 
40 and MAXFRAME to 1. For calls, it is advised to put the RS ID on duty to 
allow the other Hams to identify the mode and the exact frequency.

  PACLEN to 40 so as to limit the duration of the frames and the probability of 
bit error. Surely 20 or 30 would be perhaps better. 
  MAXFRAME to 1 because is useless to send more than one frame as in HF the 
probability to have a failure is high. And because if you send several frames, 
as there is no selective REJECT in AX25, you are going to send again all your 
frames good or not...
  Note: this apply to connected 110 bauds Packet. In APRS, you have no choice: 
you send only one frame with all the position and weather information, included 
the message.

  73
  Patrick









- Original Message - 
From: John Bradley 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: Terry White 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test



Terry, VE5TLW and I were using (fooling with?) 110 baud packet this AM on 
20M. Should be noted that we are about 1km apart, although I switched over to 
my dummy load and reduced power so he was hearing me at S3, or just above his 
noise.

Couple of observations;

*Had to change the Dwait values and TXdelay values to 80 , (found under 
options)increasing the delay slightly seemed to work better, although some of 
that could be due to desensing the rigs a bit, being so close.

* After a connect, when sending a test text file, 110 baud sent the entire 
file in one long packet. worked Ok 

* After listing each other in the repeater list ie VE5MU-0, then the other 
station would repeat the beacon message when in APRS beacon mode. Would not 
repeat connect attempts. repeater needs a fairly good signal to work.

Interesting mode, and very interested in how it will work under poor 
conditions.


So , as of 1830Z, have my rig on 14077USB, and sitting on 1000hz. Beacon 
every 3 minutes, and the responder on , and a test message stored in
message 1. Will leave it on for the next couple of hours and see what 
happens. 

Later will try setting it up as a repeater, where you would list VE5MU-0 as 
a repeater
then TX your beacon message and see if you can hear it coming back will try 
3590 this evening, too

John
VE5MU







   


[digitalradio] CW software?

2006-12-20 Thread Robert Meuser
Speaking of keyboards and the like, does anyone have a suggestion for 
software to send and receive morse?



Simon Brown wrote:

My own eyesight dropped off a tad 2 or 3 years ago, it's very good indeed 
except when reading a book with small print. I'll take all this into 
consideration.

Is there a EPC mailing list? I'm a member (1114) but that's as far as it 
goes.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  

H. I just think it's just a habit carried over from RTTY,
since PSK is keyboard-based like RTTY.   I've read some of the
replies on this to you; still looks like keeping it looking like RTTY.

BTW, your DM780 program is causing quite a stir amongst the
EPC membership.  Looks like MixW is going to fade off into the
sunset, Sir.




  




[digitalradio] 80M activity

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Just a reminder, our DX Cluster can be used to announce your activity.  
Recent spots

DX de K3UK:   3590.0  K3UK 110 baud packet
0204Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3585.0  W4UEFRTTY-45
0239Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3581.6  W4KPAPSK
0243Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3581.8  K3UK PSKFEC31   
0246Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3582.4  NI9Y MFSK16 
0249Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3582.5  WB8MKH   MFSK16 
2354Z 05
DX de K3UK:   3582.0  K4UI PSK
2355Z 05






Re: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE

2006-12-20 Thread Brett Owen Rees VK2TMG

I find that some ops use upper case for callsigns and the first letter of
names and lower case for the rest. I also upper case CQ, prosigns etc. That
provides for a good tradeoff between speed and readability. Converting all
to lower case is reducing the information content of the transmission.

73 Brett VK2TMG


Re: [digitalradio] CW software?

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew J. O'Brien
The most available options are...

Multipsk
MixW


  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Meuser 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:01 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] CW software?


  Speaking of keyboards and the like, does anyone have a suggestion for 
  software to send and receive morse?

  Simon Brown wrote:

  My own eyesight dropped off a tad 2 or 3 years ago, it's very good indeed 
  except when reading a book with small print. I'll take all this into 
  consideration.
  
  Is there a EPC mailing list? I'm a member (1114) but that's as far as it 
  goes.
  
  Simon Brown, HB9DRV
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   
  
  H. I just think it's just a habit carried over from RTTY,
  since PSK is keyboard-based like RTTY. I've read some of the
  replies on this to you; still looks like keeping it looking like RTTY.
  
  BTW, your DM780 program is causing quite a stir amongst the
  EPC membership. Looks like MixW is going to fade off into the
  sunset, Sir.
   
  
  
  
   
  



   

[digitalradio] 110 Baud MultiPSK 80M

2006-12-20 Thread John Bradley

As of Z sitting on 3590USB repeater on, responder on, no beacon. 

To try this out, list me under options/repeaters as VE5MU-0, and enable 
repeaters. If you beacon on this frequency with a strong enough signal, 
my station should repeat your beacon. Also try a connect and see how that works

cheers

John
VE5MU




Re: [digitalradio] CW software?

2006-12-20 Thread Brad Gillis
There is a varity of Software that will send and receive CW.

Try Hamscope, MultiPsk, MixW or CWType. 

It is not as much fun as a real key or paddle but gets the job done during a 
contest when there are a lot of operators doing 30+wpm.

I dubbed around a bit before I discovered my radio had to be in Digi Mode to 
transmit so if you are having trouble try that.

Later Brad N1NPK

Re: [digitalradio] CW software?

2006-12-20 Thread KV9U
There is only one really superior receiving software program but it 
costs $60:

 http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/

There is a trial version that works for a short time so you an see how 
well it can receive CW compared to most any other program. If anyone 
knows of a freeware program that can compete, I would appreciate knowing.

I have not tried this program with transmitting but perhaps others can 
critique that feature. It appears to be similar to programs that inject 
an audio tone to transmit.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Robert Meuser wrote:

Speaking of keyboards and the like, does anyone have a suggestion for 
software to send and receive morse?


  




[digitalradio] Clarification : Establishing digital calling/beacon frequencies

2006-12-20 Thread Andrew J. O'Brien
Just to clarify my original point...

I'm looking to establish a suggested calling frequency for ALL digital modes 
except CW, PSK31, RTTY, SSTV , PACTOR , and ALE(data ALE).  

My suggestion is that members of this list utilize a common frequency to call 
CQ and/or use attended beacon features within their digital software.  This 
would be for Olivia, Dominio EX, Throb, PSK63/125 , , MT63 ,Hell CHIP, 
MFSK16/8, PAX/PAX2 , THROB, experimental AX25. 

The idea is simply to make it easier to find stations to work rather than 
trawling the bands in 300-500 Hz ranges looking for  potential signals.

My experience suggest that even on good propagation days, say on 20M, the 
amount of simultaneous QSOs in the aforementioned modes rarely exceeds 3-5 .  
When it is at the 5 level,  it is often 2-3 Olivia stations, maybe 1 MFSK16 and 
one Hell.  I will argue that MOST of the time it is less than three 
simultaneous QSOs . Sometimes NO signals at all.

Thus, the amount of interest in the exotic digital modes  is at such a level 
that we would benefit from clustering, and our use of a calling/beacon 
frequency would not likely clutter up the portion of the band.

If we established 4 beacon frequencies  (80,40,30, and 20M) you could easily 
monitor  the bands via scan features in  the radio .  

Again, the idea would be just to meet on the calling frequency and move 
further up/down the band for extended conversation.  I am NOT suggesting a 
different calling frequency for each mode. 

20 M seems like the easies band to establish a data frequency that allows 
worldwide participation.  The others are more complex due to varying regional 
bandplans.  I  will read the feedback I have received so far and suggest some 
frequencies to try this weekend.

 



Re: [digitalradio] CW software?

2006-12-20 Thread Brad Gillis
Robert,

After reading Rick's glowing assessment of the MRP4-EN I gave it another try.
I am afraid I can not give it the same rating. I ran CWget and Hamscope at the 
same time
both with near 100% copy while the MRP40-EN got 50% at best. At times it would 
get 100%
(so I must have it setup right) and then suddenly spit gibberish till I clicked 
the mouse
on the signal again. Tried various setting with similar results.

Perhaps I am missing something in the setup of this program.
I would certainly try the trial version before buying it. Perhaps it is your 
cup of tea and
 have better luck getting it to work.

Personally I like HamScope but it does tax my 1 gig cpu a bit but runs fine on 
my laptop.
 My second choice is a toss up between MulitPSK or CWget combined with CWtype.

Hamscope tends to lock onto the closest frequency so if somebody isn't zero 
beat on your 
frequency then you are ok.

I'd be interested in hearing other opinions, perhaps I am the odd man out. Hi HI

My 2 cents for what it is worth.

Later Brad N1NPK


  There is only one really superior receiving software program but it 
  costs $60:

   http://www.polar-electric.com/Morse/MRP40-EN/

  There is a trial version that works for a short time so you an see how 
  well it can receive CW compared to most any other program. If anyone 
  knows of a freeware program that can compete, I would appreciate knowing.

  I have not tried this program with transmitting but perhaps others can 
  critique that feature. It appears to be similar to programs that inject 
  an audio tone to transmit.

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

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Re: [digitalradio] 110 Baud Packet and 20M test

2006-12-20 Thread Jose A. Amador
John Bradley wrote:


 Couple of observations;
  
 *Had to change the Dwait values and TXdelay values to 80 , (found under 
 options)increasing the delay slightly seemed to work better, although 
 some of that could be due to desensing the rigs a bit, being so close.

It also could be that the decoder on the packet engine that needs more 
time to synchronize.

With Kantronics TNC's on 2 m and Bell 202 tones, I used to play with 
TXDelay in KISS mode under Linux (it can adjust KISS params on the fly 
and while sending pings (TCPIP)) until I just could get 100% of ping 
packets copied and set it a bit longer for reliability. It helped 
thruput to cut flags to the minimum.

Well, as good as it might seem, I had to lengthen it a bit more because 
many users with software packet drivers (Baycom, Flexnet, AGWPE) could 
not synchoronize their engines with such short flags and sent repeat 
rates sky high...

The KPC2 minimum was 50 ms txdelay for reliable copy, but many needed at 
least 100 ms.

Also, using open or closed squelch made a big difference, because the 
speed in opening the squelch also matters. I could not convince all 
users to use open squelch and software carrier detect

73 de Jose, CO2JA





[digitalradio] Re: lowercase to UPPERCASE translator with slashed zero

2006-12-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
The option to display in upper case is better than nothing, but 
readability is best optimized by letting the user choose

- the font and its associated metrics (size, bold, italic)

- the font color

- the background color

73,

Dave, AA6YQ



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Simon HB9DRVwrote:
 
  That's a fair point - maybe in my stuff I should add the option of
 always
  sending in lowercase, and displaying text to be sent in uppercase.
 
 
 
 Hi Simon,
 
 Perhaps when you set up that lowercase to uppercase translator 
option
 you could make any uppercase that is transmitted or received show 
on the
 screen as Bold uppercase.
 
 Example:
 Ham Radio  =  HAM RADIO
 
 At the same time, the 0 (zero) character could be shown as slashed
 zero. If the preceding character is bold then the slashed zero 
character
 would be bolded.
 
 73---Bonnie BA7/KQ6XA
 
 .