[digitalradio] Re: A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-08-07 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
> i have tried to run the livecd version ... but it wont run on any of my 
> 3 PC's. One deosent start up kde .. one seems too slow ... one doesent 
> recognize the 3 soundcards ... 2 pc's run ubuntu livecd fine, but not 
> the mandriva version.

Hi Cesco.

Did you try the vmplayer image? In my opinion the vmplayer will
virtualize any sound card that is working on Windows for that live Linux.

http://www.mannindustries.net/n5ale/

73, Vojtech OK1IAK




Re: [digitalradio] Experiences from users of MIL-STD-188-110

2007-08-07 Thread Rick
I see Steve's point, even though he did not just tell us the baud rate.

I have been doing a lot of hunting around trying to find and understand 
the single tone waveforms used in MIL-STD-110. They don't often mention 
the actual baud rate because it appears that it is always 2400 baud. And 
maybe that is all the time?

One source that I found helpful, was a Norwegian doctoral dissertation 
on Adaptive Turbo Equalization which made the background information a 
bit more understandable since he worked through some of the examples.

With 188-110B at the slowest 75 baud rate here is the calculation to 
confirm the symbol (baud) rate:

fa = Rc x Q x Rf x fs

fa  = data rate @ 75 bps
Rc = code rate @ 1/16 or .0625
Q = bit rate per symbol @ 1
Rf = frame pattern efficiency 1/2 or .5
fs  = symbol (baud) rate

75 bps =  .0625 x 1 x .5 x fs
75 =  .03125 fs
75 /.03125 = fs
fs = 2400 baud

It seems hard to believe that this stuff can actually work, but until we 
get the rules changed for text baud rate to at least 2400, we won't be 
able to use this technology here in the U.S. on the HF bands as the 
lowest band we can operate 2400 baud on is 6 meters which allows 19600 
baud. But it certainly can be tested on this band with hams that are 
close enough to try it out.
Especially, noteworthy would be the AWGN on 6 meters with little QRM and 
QRN so you should be able to get a good feel for how well it works down 
into the noise since you could easily compare it to other modes. This is 
made even easier these days since we have more rigs that can work on 6 
meters.

Anyone doing that and who is willing to report on their comparisons?

73,

Rick, KV9U




Steve Hajducek wrote:
>
> In the U.S. ( correct me if I am wrong) which you are located, 300bps 
> for MIL-STD-188-110 is not legal for data  on HF, nothing is due to 
> the symbol rate.
>
> Anyhow, what ever, who ever, where ever does using MIL-STD-188-110 
> within the ARS, the standard 1800hz PSK carrier and 2400bps symbol 
> rate necessitates a 3Khz BW, so if you are not at least at 2.7Khz IF 
> BW, the results using the standard modem settings will be poor and the 
> higher the data rate the worst the results under perfect channel 
> conditions, add in QSB and the like and you get the picture.
>
> /s/ Steve, N2CKH
>


[digitalradio] Fwd: [tapr-announce] PSR Deadline is Here, But...

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Thompson
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[digitalradio] Re: A.L.E., VHS and Betamax

2007-08-07 Thread cesco12342000
> What we really need is a decentralized e-mail system that you could 
> connect to via some form of HF sound card mode. There is  PSKmail, but 
> it only runs on Linux and to make this of more practical use, we would 
> need interoperability with MS Windows. 

I am searching for some example pskmail transfers.
I dont want recorded audio, but the transferred text files of a mail 
exchange. I mean the data actually sent and received over psk, including 
all SOH headers, EOT, etc. Basically the files transferred between 
pskmail and fldigi (or gmfsk).

Can someone help?

btw 
i have tried to run the livecd version ... but it wont run on any of my 
3 PC's. One deosent start up kde .. one seems too slow ... one doesent 
recognize the 3 soundcards ... 2 pc's run ubuntu livecd fine, but not 
the mandriva version.








Re: [digitalradio] help for setting pcale with FT1000 MP mark V

2007-08-07 Thread Rick
I have a homebrew COM serial to CI-V interface. This is the simple two 
transistor design that is commonly written up in interfacing 
recommendations. One of the designs has a separate PTT connection and 
only in the past few months have I read for the first time, the claim 
that you can use PTT simultaneously with rig control. In the past others 
have indicated that you must use separate serial ports. That can be a 
lot of ports if you try and key CW, RTTY, rig control, and PTT. I 
understand that the expensive multimode controllers do this by using 
virtual com ports through a single USB connection.

There is enough room in the minibox for me to install another keying 
line with a very simple one transistor key, similar to what we used to 
build for CW keying in the "old" days of DOS. I would have to add yet 
another cable from the interface to the rig. I have a great deal of RF 
feedback, especially from my nearby 80 meter dipole, that I have had to 
"wring" out by wrapping cables about 20 turns on 1/2" x 7" ferrite rods. 
I believe that the permeability has a mu of 125.

Recently I was wondering if it might be possible to use some inductors 
in the minibox to do this. It seems that ICOM's interface has some 
chokes in their design. I read on the HRD Interfacing document that one 
suggestion is to put a 1 uH choke in series with a 100 pF bypass 
capacitor but I have not tried this. Anyone else had luck with this?

- - -

Historically, amateur radio was considered "self regulating." You can 
not be self regulating unless you know what is going on with the on air 
transmissions. Many, many, hams and SWL's monitor the ham bands. I 
monitor 99% of time compared to transmitting and I am sure that many 
hams do something similar, if not to the same degree.

Recently, the FCC has used the term "self-policing" in sending warning 
letters, to wit:

" The Commission generally relies upon the Amateur Radio Service to be 
self-policing.?

or a past comment from FCC:

"A spokesperson for the Commission stated that since Amateur Radio 
operators are supposed to be self-policing that this new move "should 
not pose a problem"."

You can not do this if you can not monitor the airwaves, it is that 
simple and is about the most commonsense approach one can take.

Right now, there are those who are encroaching on our 10 meter spectrum 
in a blatant manner,such as at 28.085 AM, as ten meters is having what 
appears to be a pretty good opening today. They are also transmitting 
above the 28.120 PSK31 watering hole on 28.154 AM voice ! What is so 
ironic is that we can not transmit there on voice but others do it on a 
daily basis.

Now for the big picture, imagine that they were using digital voice or 
other digital modes that we could not monitor. Is the signal legal or 
not? We may not be able to tell unless we have self regulation 
(self-policing to use the FCC terminology).

73,

Rick, KV9U



Steve Hajducek wrote:
>
>
> I don't know where you keep getting this need for 2 serial ports to 
> do hardware PTT from Rick? If that is your choice fine, but is not a 
> requirement. Please read my previous post to Jon today for my 
> comments that cover this subject matter.
>
>   
>
> Nothing requires the actual application used by the Radio Amateur to 
> be able to decode the data transmissions of a third party Rick, when 
> you are linked and you can decode, that is all that counts, any other 
> monitoring is not your concern as far at Part 97 is involved 
> regardless of what your opinion of the spirit of Part 97 may be. 
> However if you have the time and interest to decode and listen to 
> everyone's QSO's then there are plenty of free PCSDM based tools 
> about for ALE and even other modes in commercial offerings ( both 
> PCSDM and dedicated hardware modem) that support most everything that 
> you can make use of in your pursuits to even include those PACTOR 
> modes you wish to monitor if you want to spend the money.
>
> /s/ Steve, N2CKH
>
>