Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Hello Dick, Mixw has a Contestia+RTTYM DLL. The second mode (RTTYM) is not very interesting has you have the same sort of problem as with RTTY (you can switch from one set to another of characters and lose part of the text). I don't know why these modes are not definively integered in Mixw. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: kc4cop996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:12 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Patrick: Please advise the version of MixW that has Contestia as one of its modes. I am using version 2.18 and can find nothing on Contestia. Dick Z., kc4cop --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a reduced set of characters. It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa6yq@ wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune. I could care less about mode envy but I will say that I enjoy both Olivia and MFSK16. Both are much more tolerant of poor band conditions than PSK and who cares if Olivia is slow - you're talking about ragchewing, not contesting. Too, I haven't found MFSK16 hard to tune at all. I'm using MultiPSK so perhaps it depends on the software implementation. I'm aware that both use more bandwidth and have a lack of panoramic decoding but again, we aren't talking about contesting. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
Hello, Multipsk can also be used for a sound-card terminal for Packet (with many other possibilities). But you can also use AGW Packet engine (and of course Mixw). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet Mixw is a bit of a overkill with all it's garbage for a terminal program to operate a PK232MBX TNC. I still have been using YAPP even if it's just a DOS program some 25 years old now. At 02:07 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote: I use MixW. Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the way you want with macros. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
Even when I have been away from packet for some time after being a sysop for some twelve years, I have the feeling, but still not the certainty that having MultiPSK to serve as a transparent dumb modem also would be a good thing. Creating a good packet terminal is not trivial, I used FBB for years since version 5.13 and I don't see the need to duplicate the job that Jean Paul Roubelat did. Maybe it still would accept improvements, but I don't see much room for that. It is a job well done and hard to improve when all bases seem well covered. I used pure packet for some six years using BPQ or the Linux AX.25 engine, until I began using a PTC-II and after seeing what it does I just quit HF packet, Pactor II being better by far, just by having a more reliable transfer mechanism than classic packet. I was using FBB, as JNOS 1.11 did not handle the PTC back then. MultiPSK has a suite of modes that could still be useful and unique on HF, and particularly, I like PAX for that, and maybe ALE 400 as modulation / ARQ scheme could be useful too. Maybe others with a full alphabet (required for compressed forwarding) could be useful. I really have not though much about the tiny details. I am not sure about the situation beyond my area, but I certainly do miss HF BBS's, as I had a fruitful and nice experience after all those years. Maybe I need some people to excuse me, but I never liked AGW, perhaps I never did understand it well. I never used extra features of MixW, more interested in its sound card modes, but they never meant an obstacle either. I did use TeraTerm 2.3 and did like it too. I don't know if others could agree with me, I am aware it is not too easy to do, but maybe Patrick could do some research into making it available as a dumb terminal using TCP/IP, KISS or host mode. Just daydreaming by now, but, who knows? I am already used to get nice surprises from MultiPSK. 73, Jose, CO2JA --- Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello, Multipsk can also be used for a sound-card terminal for Packet (with many other possibilities). But you can also use AGW Packet engine (and of course Mixw). 73 Patrick
RE: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
You have must go to the MixW web site and download the DLL files for those two modes. Very easy installation. Rick - KH2DF _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Lindecker Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:49 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Hello Dick, Mixw has a Contestia+RTTYM DLL. The second mode (RTTYM) is not very interesting has you have the same sort of problem as with RTTY (you can switch from one set to another of characters and lose part of the text). I don't know why these modes are not definively integered in Mixw. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: kc4cop996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dickzs%40comcast.net net To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:12 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology Patrick: Please advise the version of MixW that has Contestia as one of its modes. I am using version 2.18 and can find nothing on Contestia. Dick Z., kc4cop --- In digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a reduced set of characters. It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa6yq@ wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune. I could care less about mode envy but I will say that I enjoy both Olivia and MFSK16. Both are much more tolerant of poor band conditions than PSK and who cares if Olivia is slow - you're talking about ragchewing, not contesting. Too, I haven't found MFSK16 hard to tune at all. I'm using MultiPSK so perhaps it depends on the software implementation. I'm aware that both use more bandwidth and have a lack of panoramic decoding but again, we aren't talking about contesting. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensw http://www.obriensweb.com/sked eb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensw http://www.obriensweb.com/sked eb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Contestia is available in MixW, just download it from the main MixW web site, it's an add on which I believe includes Olivia and RTTYM. 73 de Ron W4LDE kc4cop996 wrote: Patrick: Please advise the version of MixW that has Contestia as one of its modes. I am using version 2.18 and can find nothing on Contestia. Dick Z., kc4cop --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a reduced set of characters. It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa6yq@ wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune. I could care less about mode envy but I will say that I enjoy both Olivia and MFSK16. Both are much more tolerant of poor band conditions than PSK and who cares if Olivia is slow - you're talking about ragchewing, not contesting. Too, I haven't found MFSK16 hard to tune at all. I'm using MultiPSK so perhaps it depends on the software implementation. I'm aware that both use more bandwidth and have a lack of panoramic decoding but again, we aren't talking about contesting. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [digitalradio] Contestia in Mixw
You need to find a specific DLL for Contestia in MixW. I will look for the old link You can download the Contestia DLL from: http://mixw.net/beta/Modes.zip It's been in beta since September 2005, apparently... This version appears to be a couple of days newer than the one on Jim Jaffe's web site. You know, for such a great program, MixW really DOES feel like an orphan at times, doesn't it?? Grumble, grumble... de Peter K1PGV
Re: [digitalradio] Contestia in Mixw
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Peter G. Viscarola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, for such a great program, MixW really DOES feel like an orphan at times, doesn't it?? Grumble, grumble... de Peter K1PGV Yes it does Peter ! -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
[digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Contestia RTTYM are implemented in PocketDigi also. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK, AB2ZA
[digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Darn if I can find on the MixW Download page. Learning Contest is in beta helped but the link that Peter (K1PGV) posted helped a lot more. Thanks to all for your help. During the several years that I have used MixW (admittedly sporadicly)I have yet to find a central download website. Dick Z., kc4cop --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, w4lde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contestia is available in MixW, just download it from the main MixW web site, it's an add on which I believe includes Olivia and RTTYM. 73 de Ron W4LDE kc4cop996 wrote: Patrick: Please advise the version of MixW that has Contestia as one of its modes. I am using version 2.18 and can find nothing on Contestia. Dick Z., kc4cop --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker f6cte@ wrote: Hello all, Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia, which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a reduced set of characters. It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Benson btw@ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa6yq@ wrote: On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are better than PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune. I could care less about mode envy but I will say that I enjoy both Olivia and MFSK16. Both are much more tolerant of poor band conditions than PSK and who cares if Olivia is slow - you're talking about ragchewing, not contesting. Too, I haven't found MFSK16 hard to tune at all. I'm using MultiPSK so perhaps it depends on the software implementation. I'm aware that both use more bandwidth and have a lack of panoramic decoding but again, we aren't talking about contesting. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
Alan, Of course that goes away if you purchase the license. I enjoy the ability to go from soundcard modes to the TNC within the same program. Logger32 freeware has a terminal window that that works great but with fewer soundcard modes. Certainly worth checking out for all it's great features. Bill - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: *SPAM* Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet Bill Ayer wrote: I use MixW. Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the way you want with macros. - Original Message - *From:* Alan Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 04, 2008 11:09 AM *Subject:* [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can use with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version 5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen. All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics. Thanks in advance for any help. Hi Bill, I used MixW briefly for a while but I didn't really know much about it. The reason I quit using it was because of the not registered time delay whenever I switched modes. Alan -- W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home http://w8oaj.blogspot.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM
