Re: [digitalradio] Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB

2009-02-21 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
Dick, In general use USB - what's your radio?

Sometime selecting Digital enables audio I/O via a rear connector.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

- Original Message - 
From: kc4cop dic...@comcast.net

 On a radio that has a mode choice of digital and (USB) , is there a 
 preference for selecting the mode on the transceiver itself?


[digitalradio] Re: DXPSK by F6GQK

2009-02-21 Thread kc4cop
Jim:

The link that you posted dead ends at a closed AOL Hometown website. 
I checked the link mainly to see what you were talking about 
(ex. two channel). 

Are you using the DXPSK software because it will run on an old 
computer? If so, did you make your software choice based on needing a 
program that is compatible with an old Windows operating system or 
based on a computer's modest hardware such as old CPU, limited amount 
of RAM etc?

My Windows XP machine is out of service and I am unable to replace 
it. I have an offer of a Pentium II machine that runs well using 
Windows 98 SE. 

When my radio and computer equipment fails and I can no longer fix 
it, I will have to let it go and look for older used equipment. I 
can't find some of the parts for my older radio equipment that I need 
to put the equipment back into operation.

I have not found looking for older computer equipment very fruitful. 
What I have heard several times is that people have been scared off 
from the practice of recycling their old computers for fear of 
someone stealing their identity and banking records from the hard 
drives that in the computer. It is too late to educate a person in 
how to wipe a hard drive if they have already disposed of their 
computer. Because of this I can not be picky when looking for an old 
but serviceable computer to use with digital sound card programs.

Information on the requirements needed to run specific software is 
appreciated.

Dick Z., KC4COP



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... 
wrote:

 Does this software still exist among digital hams 
 
 
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jim kj5tf@ wrote:
 
  I just downloaded and setup DXPSK, by F6GQK (pskcore.dll by 
AE4JY) and
  reading the mail on two psk stations as I write this. The two
 channels is a
  nice feature.
  
  One thing that confused me was the soundcard on off button on the
 top left
  of the screen. To get the program to copy signals you must click 
the
 speaker
  icon, and a red X appears over the speaker.
  
  On start up the speaker icon is not red X'ed, and you do not see 
any
  waterfall, or see anything decoded.
  
  Dispite this very minor confusion, I think I'm going to be able to
 use this
  program on my older 120mHz Compaq 1130T. Too bad I cant get 
Digipan
 going,
  but DXPSK should do very nicely.
  
  Get a copy of DXPSK at this website.
  
  http://members.aol.com/chramade/dxpsk.htm
  
  73's de Jim  KJ5TF
 





[digitalradio] Re: Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB

2009-02-21 Thread kc4cop
Simon - thanks for the quick reply

My Yaesu FT-1000D (without the D) has a RTTY mode switch in addition 
to the USB mode and a FT-897D. The FT-897 just says digital. 
Apparently it does not specifically address the various digital modes 
individually.

Dick Z. KC4COP

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Simon \(HB9DRV\) 
simon.br...@... wrote:

 Dick, In general use USB - what's your radio?
 
 Sometime selecting Digital enables audio I/O via a rear connector.
 
 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: kc4cop dic...@...
 
  On a radio that has a mode choice of digital and (USB) , is 
there a 
  preference for selecting the mode on the transceiver itself?





[digitalradio] Re: Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB

2009-02-21 Thread kc4cop
Simon:

I should have added that I have a RigBlaster Plug and Play sound card 
interface that does use the data jack on the FT-897D.

Dick Z., KC4COP

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Simon \(HB9DRV\) 
simon.br...@... wrote:

 Dick, In general use USB - what's your radio?
 
 Sometime selecting Digital enables audio I/O via a rear connector.
 
 Simon Brown, HB9DRV
 www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: kc4cop dic...@...
 
  On a radio that has a mode choice of digital and (USB) , is 
there a 
  preference for selecting the mode on the transceiver itself?





Re: [digitalradio] Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB

2009-02-21 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
on my trx there is no difference with data mode or normal ssb
the only difference is
with the ptt on the data connector set to on
in ssb mode the mic is functioning
in data mode the mic is switched off
so only the audio of the data connector is transmitted
hope that helps a bit
dg9bfc
sigi
  - Original Message - 
  From: kc4cop 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:15 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB


  While I am sure that this question has been asked and answered many 
  times, I can't find the answer after a reasonable amount of searching. 
  On a radio that has a mode choice of digital and (USB) , is there a 
  preference for selecting the mode on the transceiver itself? An example 
  being PSK 31 on the 40 band. If PSK 31 is chosen in the software and 
  digital is selected on the radio is the transmitted signal 
  automatically set to use the upper side band? What should the settings 
  be on the radio?

  My solution thus far has been to stay off of the 40 m band when using 
  PSK. Might there be a better one?

  Dick Zseltvay, KC4COP



  

[digitalradio] Re: Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB

2009-02-21 Thread Graham
Dick,

USB is the  norm for data modes .. I think you  will find any speach 
processing  ie  envalope clipping  is 'off' when the  set is switched 
to  digital .. 

G ...


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kc4cop dic...@... wrote:

 While I am sure that this question has been asked and answered many 
 times, I can't find the answer after a reasonable amount of 
searching. 
 On a radio that has a mode choice of digital and (USB) , is 
there a 
 preference for selecting the mode on the transceiver itself? An 
example 
 being PSK 31 on the 40  band. If PSK 31 is chosen in the software 
and 
 digital is selected on the radio is the transmitted signal 
 automatically set to use the upper side band?  What should the 
settings 
 be on the radio?
 
 My solution thus far has been to stay off of the 40 m band when 
using 
 PSK. Might there be a better one?
 
 Dick Zseltvay, KC4COP





Re: [digitalradio] Re: DXPSK by F6GQK

2009-02-21 Thread Bob/Chris
Is this what you are looking for?

http://dxfile.free.fr/dxpsk.htm

Bob C WU9Q


- Original Message - 
From: kc4cop dic...@comcast.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:55 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: DXPSK by F6GQK


 Jim:
 
 The link that you posted dead ends at a closed AOL Hometown website. 
 I checked the link mainly to see what you were talking about 
 (ex. two channel). 
 
 Are you using the DXPSK software because it will run on an old 
 computer? If so, did you make your software choice based on needing a 
 program that is compatible with an old Windows operating system or 
 based on a computer's modest hardware such as old CPU, limited amount 
 of RAM etc?
 
 My Windows XP machine is out of service and I am unable to replace 
 it. I have an offer of a Pentium II machine that runs well using 
 Windows 98 SE. 
 
 When my radio and computer equipment fails and I can no longer fix 
 it, I will have to let it go and look for older used equipment. I 
 can't find some of the parts for my older radio equipment that I need 
 to put the equipment back into operation.
 
 I have not found looking for older computer equipment very fruitful. 
 What I have heard several times is that people have been scared off 
 from the practice of recycling their old computers for fear of 
 someone stealing their identity and banking records from the hard 
 drives that in the computer. It is too late to educate a person in 
 how to wipe a hard drive if they have already disposed of their 
 computer. Because of this I can not be picky when looking for an old 
 but serviceable computer to use with digital sound card programs.
 
 Information on the requirements needed to run specific software is 
 appreciated.
 
 Dick Z., KC4COP
 
 
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... 
 wrote:

 Does this software still exist among digital hams 
 
 
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jim kj5tf@ wrote:
 
  I just downloaded and setup DXPSK, by F6GQK (pskcore.dll by 
 AE4JY) and
  reading the mail on two psk stations as I write this. The two
 channels is a
  nice feature.
  
  One thing that confused me was the soundcard on off button on the
 top left
  of the screen. To get the program to copy signals you must click 
 the
 speaker
  icon, and a red X appears over the speaker.
  
  On start up the speaker icon is not red X'ed, and you do not see 
 any
  waterfall, or see anything decoded.
  
  Dispite this very minor confusion, I think I'm going to be able to
 use this
  program on my older 120mHz Compaq 1130T. Too bad I cant get 
 Digipan
 going,
  but DXPSK should do very nicely.
  
  Get a copy of DXPSK at this website.
  
  http://members.aol.com/chramade/dxpsk.htm
  
  73's de Jim  KJ5TF
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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[digitalradio] WD8ARZ-L HFN ALE Live Audio Feed on EchoLink

2009-02-21 Thread WD8ARZ
To support the Saturday ALE Clinic at 2200 UTC, a Live ALE audio feed is now 
online in real-time on Echolink via WD8ARZ-L

Information on frequencies of ALE audio feed can be found at:

http://hflink.net

73 from Bill - WD8ARZ 



[digitalradio] NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-21 Thread Rick W
There was a very nice comment in Steve Ford's Electic Technology column 
about NBEMS.

He mentions that it is a suite of Windows sound card programs allowing 
ARQ exchanges of messages, but one of the compelling features of fldigi 
and flarq which make up the suite of programs, is that they work cross 
platform. No other software of this type has this capability to work 
with Windows XP, Vista, Mac, Linux and Free BSD. The impression seemed 
to be that fldigi can work with Windows and Linux.

A really important point was that Skip, KH6TY, found it possible to use 
DominoEX modes with FM modulation and work farther than SSB phone. That 
is a very significant new finding. Anyone else having luck with that? 
What about other modes with FM?

Would it also be true that DominoEX (and other modes) would work even 
farther with SSB digital vs FM digital?

Even though horizontal polarization was emphasized, the fact is that 
hams with FM only rigs do not have horizontal antennas and vertical to 
vertical should work very well, even if there may be a slight edge to 
horizontal. Has anyone else been able to do any comparisons between H to 
H and V to V on FM?

73,

Rick, KV9U




Re: [digitalradio] Re: DXPSK by F6GQK

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Lange
Anyone looking for DXPSK can find it herehttp://dxfile.free.fr/dxpsk.htm  


  - Original Message - 
  From: kc4cop 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 04:55
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: DXPSK by F6GQK


  Jim:

  The link that you posted dead ends at a closed AOL Hometown website. 
  I checked the link mainly to see what you were talking about 
  (ex. two channel). 

  Are you using the DXPSK software because it will run on an old 
  computer? If so, did you make your software choice based on needing a 
  program that is compatible with an old Windows operating system or 
  based on a computer's modest hardware such as old CPU, limited amount 
  of RAM etc?

  My Windows XP machine is out of service and I am unable to replace 
  it. I have an offer of a Pentium II machine that runs well using 
  Windows 98 SE. 

  When my radio and computer equipment fails and I can no longer fix 
  it, I will have to let it go and look for older used equipment. I 
  can't find some of the parts for my older radio equipment that I need 
  to put the equipment back into operation.

  I have not found looking for older computer equipment very fruitful. 
  What I have heard several times is that people have been scared off 
  from the practice of recycling their old computers for fear of 
  someone stealing their identity and banking records from the hard 
  drives that in the computer. It is too late to educate a person in 
  how to wipe a hard drive if they have already disposed of their 
  computer. Because of this I can not be picky when looking for an old 
  but serviceable computer to use with digital sound card programs.

  Information on the requirements needed to run specific software is 
  appreciated.

  Dick Z., KC4COP

  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... 
  wrote:
  
   Does this software still exist among digital hams 
   
   
   
   Andy K3UK
   
   
   --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jim kj5tf@ wrote:
   
I just downloaded and setup DXPSK, by F6GQK (pskcore.dll by 
  AE4JY) and
reading the mail on two psk stations as I write this. The two
   channels is a
nice feature.

One thing that confused me was the soundcard on off button on the
   top left
of the screen. To get the program to copy signals you must click 
  the
   speaker
icon, and a red X appears over the speaker.

On start up the speaker icon is not red X'ed, and you do not see 
  any
waterfall, or see anything decoded.

Dispite this very minor confusion, I think I'm going to be able to
   use this
program on my older 120mHz Compaq 1130T. Too bad I cant get 
  Digipan
   going,
but DXPSK should do very nicely.

Get a copy of DXPSK at this website.

http://members.aol.com/chramade/dxpsk.htm

73's de Jim KJ5TF
   
  


  

[digitalradio] Feld Hell sprint today

2009-02-21 Thread Russell Blair

Well I made a few qso and wanted to try the other modes of FH, so I was on FSK 
Hell 125 shift as well as FSK Hell 245 shift, made a few qso on both modes, 
even worked W1FHC/KH6 in 245 shift mode. Thnaks

Russell

= 
IN GOD WE TRUST ! 
= 
Russell Blair (NC5O)  Skype-Russell.Blair  Hell Field #300  DRCC #55  30m 
Dig-group #693


  


Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-21 Thread kh6ty
KV9U wrote:

 He mentions that it is a suite of Windows sound card programs allowing
 ARQ exchanges of messages, but one of the compelling features of fldigi
 and flarq which make up the suite of programs, is that they work cross
 platform. No other software of this type has this capability to work
 with Windows XP, Vista, Mac, Linux and Free BSD. The impression seemed
 to be that fldigi can work with Windows and Linux.

Yes, fldigi is a cross-platform program and works on both Windows and Linux, 
etc.


 A really important point was that Skip, KH6TY, found it possible to use
 DominoEX modes with FM modulation and work farther than SSB phone. That
 is a very significant new finding. Anyone else having luck with that?
 What about other modes with FM?

DominoEx has been found to be more successful than either PSK31 or MFSK16 
(the two most popular high sensitivity modes), and for QSO's and contest 
exchanges, DominoEX 4 is still fast enough (but too slow for messaging) at 
25 wpm, and works the best of all when you are far under limiting and with 
poor S/N. DominoEX is not as critical to tune and more resistant to 
multipath interference than PSK31, so I think it will be the mode of choice 
for FM DX, outperforming both PSK31 and MFSK16 when the S/N is very poor, as 
will always be the case for the weakest stations.


 Would it also be true that DominoEX (and other modes) would work even
 farther with SSB digital vs FM digital?

Yes, the advantage of SSB over FM we find to be around 3-4 dB or more. 
However, CW works as well as DominoEx 4, and going to CW is already 
customary in the weak signal community when SSB phone cannot make it. When 
propagation is poor, you will sometimes find stations calling CQ in CW on 
the phone calling frequency (144.2 MHz), and then QSY'ing to a clear 
frequency, just as phone operators also generally do.


 Even though horizontal polarization was emphasized, the fact is that
 hams with FM only rigs do not have horizontal antennas and vertical to
 vertical should work very well, even if there may be a slight edge to
 horizontal. Has anyone else been able to do any comparisons between H to
 H and V to V on FM?

All the current SSB phone weak signal operators and VHF contesters use 
horizontal polarization. If those operators simply download fldigi and get 
an interface (the SignaLink USB works really well, even on FM-only 
transceivers with no VOX), they will have an incentive to work more grids 
and states during contests. For long distance FM DX, these operators, 
already equipped with high gain antennas (horizontally polarized) and 
amplifiers, looking for more grid multipliers and Q's during the VHF 
contests, probably represent the largest potential intererst group for 
working FM DX other than those with FM-only transceivers looking for new 
ways to enjoy the hobby. So, those who want to work them will need to get a 
horizontally polarized, fairly high gain antenna, and a small rotator.

The gain of most current verticals that are not on a rotator probably tops 
out at around 6.2 dBi, which is not enough gain to work very far, except 
during strong openings. To work any reasonable amount of FM DX, a rotator 
and an antenna with at least 10 dBi of gain will be needed, and the VHF 
contesters generally have 14 dBi of antenna gain or more.

It is not anticipated that very many of those interested in working toward 
VUCC on 2 meters, or even doing fairly well in VHF contests, will be 
satisfied with the range of their current verticals (even to someone else's 
current vertical), so if a higher gain antenna is needed, they might as well 
go to a rotator and horizontal polarization and be able to work the existing 
weak signal operators that we think will only need to add an interface in 
order to improve their contest scores by working both FM DX and SSB DX.

Those who already have vertically polarized yagi's and still want to work 
repeaters can just rotate the yagi 45 degrees in roll and cover both 
polarizations with 3 dB less gain on each polarization. However, 3 dB is 
very significant in terms of range on 2 meters, so the operator may later 
decide to rotate the additional 45 degrees and pick up the additional 3 dB 
in gain.

We are using 145.000 MHz as a calling frequency in our area, which has 
seemed to work out quite well. It is still within the SWR bandwidth of the 
high gain 2 meter SSB weak signal antennas and far enough away from repeater 
frequencies so as not to experience any desensitization. 145.000 is also 
within the ARRL Bandplan for 2 meters in the Weak signal and FM simplex  
area.


73, Skip KH6TY





Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS QST article/digital weak signal FM

2009-02-21 Thread Tony
Skip,

White noise tests show DominioEX-4 to be a bit more sensitive than MFSK16, 
but it doesn't seem to handle HF distortion nearly as well.

I was surprised that it did better than MFSK16 with multipath and was 
wondering if you thought the better throughput was due to MFSK16 tuning 
issues rather than actual robustness?

Tony - KHMU