Re: [digitalradio] New modes or old modes?

2009-03-11 Thread Sholto Fisher
Christian,

 From a purely nostalgic viewpoint some of the older MFSK modes like 
Piccolo, Coquelet  Crowd could be a lot of fun to use on the amateur 
bands. Performance-wise they are probably eclipsed by MFSK16/Olivia but 
just as in Hellschreiber  even CW, performance isn't everything.

You could also consider Autospec, Twinplex  FEC-A too.

73 Sholto
K7TMG

Christian Crayton wrote:
 
 
 If you could experiment with a mode for the first time, would you rather
 try a new mode like Thor, or an old-school mode like CROWD or Piccolo?
 I've been thinking about fiddling with FFT and programming, and have
 thought about bringing some of the original digital modes used by
 various diplomatic and military organizations back to life. A bit like
 Hell, but not that old school...
 
 I always get stuck between old and new, I guess that one of the things I
 like about amateur radio. There's about a 100-year technology range
 that you can play with in one afternoon!
 
 


[digitalradio] Re: Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions

2009-03-11 Thread marc
Doug,

You can find HF Slow Scan TV at:
3.730 LSB, 7.033 LSB (rare), 14.230 USB, 28.680 USB.
These are calling frequencie. So +/-3KHz you'll find SSTV.

Marc - PD4U




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions

2009-03-11 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
14.230 USB is very active...

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: marc 

  You can find HF Slow Scan TV at:
  3.730 LSB, 7.033 LSB (rare), 14.230 USB, 28.680 USB.
  These are calling frequencie. So +/-3KHz you'll find SSTV.



Re: [digitalradio] Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions

2009-03-11 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
try multipsk from patrick lindecker 
  - Original Message - 
  From: doug_helbling 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:44 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions



  Greetings, all.  

  I'm a rather new ham and very recent General class licensee who is very 
interested in digitial modes.  I've acquired a RiggBlaster, fabricated a second 
computer-to-tranceiver control interface (home brew version of CT17 from N9ZLE) 
and have got Simon Brown's HRD and DM780 (awesome software so far) apparently 
working with my little IC-718.  I've begun surfing the bands (mostly 10M and 
20M) looking for signals.  But I am having trouble audibly recognizing the 
sound of the various modes, however.  I get some reasonably good signals from 
my modest little stealth dipoles (combo 10M/20M), but can't seem to get clean 
copy ... I try switching through the various digital modes, whether RTTY, 
PSK31*, or whatever.   It could be a noise level thing.  I am scratching my 
head at this point.

  I have a smattering of sample audio files of some of the modes on the disk 
that came with my RiggBlaster, and found a few more on KB9UKD's site here: 
http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/ .  Anyone have suggestions for other sources?  
(yeah, I can spell google ...  ... but my finding so far have not been that 
good ).  To my admittedly inexperienced ears, most of the signals I stumble 
across sound like like packet modes that use proprietary hardware solutions.

  Any other suggestions for the Newb Digital Moder looking at sound card modes? 
 I've tried a few of the other digital mode Windoze programs, with mixed 
results, none as good as HRD/DM780.  Should I be trying any other specific 
software?  I've done a little homework, including reading Ford's HF Digital 
Handbook.  I am probably doing something patently wrong.  It could be as 
simple as my stealth antenna is too dang low to the ground and I need to get it 
up in the air higher to catch a decent signal.  It's probably time for me to 
drop into the local area HAM club and pick a few brains, but I thought I'd 
start with ya'll here first.  It's easier to appear clueless behind an email.   
  All clues appreciated.   

  - Doug - KE7SEI 




  

[digitalradio] Re: Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions

2009-03-11 Thread Bill McLaughlin
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, doug_helbling doug_helbl...@... wrote:

 Thanks for the welcome and the great advice and counsel, 
 Patrick/Andrew/Christian/Marc/Simon/Siegfried et al.
 
 I did some more poking around on my rig, and found that my audio input to the 
 PC was indeed the Mic input, not Line In, as suggested more than once.  
 Unfortunately, on this PC (a laptop), there is no Line In, only Mike In ... 
 but I think I found a different driver for the on-board audio that will allow 
 me to reconfigure the jack.  I will definitely give that a try.  If it fails, 
 I have an older / slower desktop machine and a drawer full of decent 
 Soundblaster PCI cards I can try instead.  It's a 1GHz P3, but it should 
 probably be strong enough for this.  If that fails, I've got a dual CPU 2GHz 
 P4 gathering dust in the corner that's just waiting for a purpose.  ;-)
 
 I'll also follow up on your other great suggestions, including pointers to 
 other tools/modes and to specific bands/freqs.  
 
 Cheers and thanks again.
 
 - Doug / KE7SEI


Hi Doug, 

Alot of good suggestions you have received; also consider using:

http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

73,

Bill N9DSJ




[digitalradio] Re: Newb digital mode guy with Newb questions

2009-03-11 Thread kh6ty
Doug, poke around the laptop a little more and see if there is boost on the 
Mic input. On my laptop, turning off the boost turns the mic input into the 
equivalent of a line input.

73, Skip KH6TY
http://kh6ty.home.comcast.net