Re: [digitalradio] World's nastiest PSK31 signal

2010-08-04 Thread Alan Beagley
No link or image appears *unless* the message is displayed in HTML 
format. I hate Web mail with a passion, so all my Yahoo group messages 
come to my inbox, where Thunderbird filters them into group-specific 
folders.

All those messages are displayed as plain text unless I *know* there's a 
reason to display them as HTML. This way it's very easy to see that what 
(if displayed in HTML) purports to be my bank's login screen is really a 
link to www.come-in-sucker.th.

73

Alan NV8A


On 08/03/10 09:30 pm, Jeff Moore wrote:
 It's NOT an attachment - it's an embedded link.

 It looks pretty nasty too!

 Jeff  --  KE7ACY
 - Original Message -
 From: mikea
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] World's nastiest PSK31 signal



 On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:18:20PM -0400, Andy obrien wrote:
 On 10M tonight, from Mexico

 See attached, the image around 500 Hz is his MAIN signal with LOTS of
 side bars, and the image around 1700 Hz is also him !

 I don't see an attachment, OM.


Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS back bigger and better !

2010-07-19 Thread Alan Beagley
On 07/19/10 11:48 am, g4ilo wrote:

 Your definition might be called what good SS is and the way ROS does SS 
 might be called what bad SS is. But how wide is PSK31?  Is ROS wider?  So 
 ROS is wider than needed to convey intelligence.

 So is RTTY. But it isn't SS.

 Your point is well taken, but not relevant to people under the FCC's 
 jurisdiction.

 I don't see why not, actually. I understand from these posts that it is the 
 individual American ham's responsibility to determine whether anything they 
 do complies with the regulations. The fact that someone asked for guidance 
 and received an answer that many believe to be wrong doesn't change that.

 IF someone got a knock on the door for using the ROS mode then I would have 
 thought citing that formula as justification for believing the mode they were 
 using was not SS would be a valid response. The onus would then be on the 
 FCC/whoever to produce a valid counter argument. The fact that the mode was 
 once described as SS by a non native English speaker could easily and 
 plausibly be explained as a mistranslation.

But the FCC has already written -- according to a document I found the 
other day but can't be bothered to look for again now -- words to the 
effect that the inventor says it's spread spectrum, and he should know 
what it is he invented, so therefore it's illegal on HF.

ISTM that the only way to get around that one is to claim that the 
inventor is an idiot. Or perhaps that he was trying to big-note himself.

73

Alan NV8A


Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS back bigger and better !

2010-07-15 Thread Alan Beagley
On 07/15/10 01:54 pm, John Becker, WØJAB wrote:

 I wonder where ROS would be today if someone had been
 truthful about it the first place?

 That little game of banning some from using it (for unknown reasons)
 was just about it for me.

I received a few ROS transmissions within a week or two of the mode's 
appearance but have taken little interest since. I no longer have the 
software on my computer.

It seems to me that the developer of the mode may have cooked his own 
goose: he declared it to be a spread-spectrum mode, and spread-spectrum 
is mot legal on HF in the USA.

73

Alan NV8A


[digitalradio] Why ROS?

2010-02-21 Thread Alan Beagley
Why this new mode? Advantages?

73

Alan NV8A


Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Alan Beagley
Please include the option to select Virtual Audio Cable as the sound 
card -- and COM ports  6.

73

Alan NV8A


On 02/19/10 07:49 am, nietorosdj wrote:
 Hi,

 With the New Version 1.6.2 you can select from COM1 to COM6.

 For the future versions, i will make soundcard selectable, no problem.

 Thank you all for testing ROS. I hear your suggestions.


Re: [digitalradio] Re: Haiti a test for emcomms

2010-01-17 Thread Alan Beagley
I have heard a couple of the locals (i.e., Haitian residents) on the 
SATERN frequency, 14.265 (along with some deliberate interference!), 
also a ZR station portable /HH. One of the locals is operating with a 
long extension lead from a neighbor's generator, and the last I heard he 
had been unable to obtain a further supply of fuel.

There seem to be some differences of opinion as to whether the repeater 
systems set up by the Dominican Republic team are operational.

73

Alan NV8A


On 01/17/10 07:16 pm, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote:
 And it seems some have found the test to be too challenging. As reported by 
 this article on QRZ forums:

 http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=233290

 8 hams fled the country after being attacked.
 Reported by telephone as opposed to radio!
 Apparently only 1 active ham in the entire country.
 1 other ham accounted for (but not active?)
 10 other hams unaccounted for.


 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, aa777888athotmaildotcomaa777...@...  
 wrote:

 Some questions to consider:

 How many hams are there on Haiti?
 How many have survived?
 Of those that survived how many are too busy fighting for theirs and others 
 lives, i.e. simply concentrating on rescue, water, shelter and food?
 Of the remainder how many have any kind of workable station (equipment, 
 power, etc.)?

 I suspect we will see zero to no amateur radio traffic from Haiti, emcomm or 
 otherwise, unless someone gets on an airplane and brings it there.

 Gov't, humanitarian and media agencies are and will be there with Satcom and 
 infrastructure repair capability before many or any hams get there.

 It seems Twitter has already outdone any other mode of communications for 
 the masses. There is apparently some internet and wireless infrastructure 
 left standing.


 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Blairrussell_blair86@  wrote:

 Andy, there is a learnning curve for PSKmail as well as ALE and Winmor and 
 software for a PC, and power to run all this. but the phone nets maybe 
 slow but all you need is a radio.Â
 hine site is all ways 20/20 to what we should have done.
 Russell
 Â 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving 
 door!
 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong 
 enough to take everything you have.
 - Thomas Jefferson


  IN GOD WE TRUST 


 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell.Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693




 
 From: Andy obrienk3ukandy@
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 7:44:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Haiti a test for emcomms

 Â
 Yes Howard.  The HF Ale network is very active with hams standing by but I 
 do not see any actual use of the ALE stations, so far.  PSKmail , as I 
 mentioned earlier, appears tailor made for relaying traffic from/to Haiti 
 .  from a ham to an ISP server.  Winmor/Winlink could also carry traffic 
 from the island and pop in into the Internet.  The question is ... will 
 any of these get any actual use,  or will hams on the island revert to old 
 tested methods...  phone nets and phone patches ?

 Andy K3UK


 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:29 PM, W6IDSw6...@verizon. net  wrote:

 Â
 Andy, is this the time when we see how effective or useful ALE and, since
 you
 mentioned it, PSKmail are? WL2K? Haitian stations actually up and able to
 operate not withstanding. Are there any ALEs, WL2K, etc etc there operating
 in the past, involving Haiti or have had access to? Just wondering.

 We're all waiting for the important OUTBOUND HW traffic (not inbound)
 and it will be of great interest to see how this initially plays out for
 ultimate
 study.

 Howard W6IDS
 Richmond, IN Em79


 - Original Message -
 From: Andy obrienk3uka...@gmail. com
 To: digitalradiodigitalradio@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:45 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?


 Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ? Seems that is
 is tailor made for such a situation. Short hops from Haiti to servers
 on HF

 Andy K3UK












Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail to/from Haiti (or neighbouring countries) ?

2010-01-13 Thread Alan Beagley
On 01/13/10 06:46 pm, W3FIS wrote:

 Any use of Pskmail related to the emergency in Haiti ?  Seems that is
 is tailor made for such a situation.  Short hops from Haiti to servers
 on HF

 Well,this came across today. this fellow is active on the REGEN group, 
 and runs a SWL program out of Radio Havana, I believe.


 IARU Region 2 Area C Emergency Coordinator, Arnie Coro, CO2KK, is
 coordinating a multi-national response by hams. There are organized
 nets on 7.045 and 3.720 MHz; amateurs are asked to monitor the
 frequencies, but to also keep them clear of non-essential traffic.
 Amateur Radio operators should also be aware that emergency traffic
 pertaining to the Haitian earthquake is expected on the SATERN
 frequencies of 14.265 MHz, 7.265 MHz and 3977 MHz, according to
 SATERN's leader, Major Pat McPherson. The Salvation Army is
 accepting health and welfare traffic requests on its Web site.

 As late as 9:45 PM local time (0245 UTC), we have not been able to
 contact any amateur or emergency services stations in Haiti, Coro
 said in an e-mail. Amateurs from Cuba, the Dominican Republic,
 Puerto Rico and Venezuela are monitoring the 40 meter band
 frequency. We are still keeping watch on 7.045 MHz, hoping that
 someone in Haiti may have access to a transceiver and at least a car
 battery to run it, but so far. no HH stations have checked in.

For a while this afternoon I listened on 14.300 and 14.313 to HH2JR Jean 
operating with power from a neighbor's generator and getting messages 
via phone patch to people in the US.

He reported that there had been numerous aftershocks since the original, 
then reported another strength 5 shock at approx 1720 EST.

73

Alan NV8A