Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?
I'm a begginer, licenced this year. I do not think that we have too many mode. And the massive usage of psk31 is not a beginer problem. It's the opposite. We have too many old ham that just want a contact and a QSL. And they use the most commonly used mode, psk31. I have absolutly no interest in contact and QSL. Well, no interest, but i need a contact to test the mode, talk about it, improve the transmission if needed. And not just sharing macro-QSO. The only times i was able to really test, experiment, on air was with exotic mode. Anytime i tried to chat (technical) in psk31 i got the usual k thx bye macro. But never had this problem using Feld Hell. The problem is between chair and keyboard, nothing else. -- F4FQM 2008/4/21, Simon Brown (Laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Interesting because I've been asked by quite a few people to add Hell to DM780 - which I have done, so expect some Hell activity this year. In general I agree that we possibly have far too many modes, for the beginner it's no easy to know what's what. At least PSK / RTTY is a good starting point. And real SSTV - that's very active although not a true digital mode. Simon HB9DRV -- From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe it is because I am getting irritated because of the pinched nerve in my neck, I'm thinking maybe I have just had enough of the plethora of digital modes. Yes, it is K3UK saying that...the bloke that is always trying varying modes. -- -- Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?
Hello, i have exactly the same problem. PSK31 is a good mode, but i'm tired of PSK31 only QSO. I try to use exoctic mode only. All flavors of Hellschreiber, Throb, Ale, Olivia, ALE, Stanag, Packet, ... It can take MANY hours to get a single reply in MFSK16 while there is a lot of psk31 around. Frustrating and boring ... It's all about sharing stupid paper QSL or contesting ... -- F4FQM 2008/4/20, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe it is because I am getting irritated because of the pinched nerve in my neck, I'm thinking maybe I have just had enough of the plethora of digital modes. Yes, it is K3UK saying that...the bloke that is always trying varying modes. I tried calling CQ numerous times in the TARA Skirming using various exotic modes, but ZERO respondents. No one answered Olivia CQ's, no one answered DominoEX CQ's, no Hell, and even no MFSK16 ! The only three modes that produced a response were PSK31, PSK63 and RTTY. Several months ago, I saw Dave AA6YQ make some comment about Winwabler not adding additional modes because (paraphrasing) RTTY and PSK31/63 are effective and the others too under utilized to warrant inclusion. While I have really enjoyed many experimental modes and had lots of fun testing, I think if I added up the time I have spent endlessly trawling the digital bands without results, I could have built a few more antennae, or added a few thousand more QSO via other modes. Heck, my CW could be even more practiced. So, for the next few months I am going to detox, and consolidate around the following modes. PSK31/63 (125/250 on VHF/UHF) RTTY MEPT-WSPR (passive operations) Narrow SSTV/Digital SSTV HF JT65A ALE 400 Time to put MFSK16,Hell, standard ALE, Olivia , Contestia, RTTYM, DominoEX , etc, in to the virtual junk-box. They can join their counsins from the non-virtual world...Betamax ,8 track tapes, and cassettes. All good applications, but no one uses 'em anymore. -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] Re: another non- contest on a no contest band
2008/4/12, David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes i know this is a usage hangover from the 'wars' between ops of AM and SSB but by now should be buried and the terms used correctly.AM Voice or SSB Voicejust as the new technology is being called Digital Voice And SSB voice is AM :) Ah ! Next time i'll use A3E, J3E, A1A, ... intead of keeping it simple and writing AM, SSB, CW, ... -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] 10MHz Ham Digi Band Research Survey Chart 10140-10150kHz
2008/4/12, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New 10MHz Ham Digi Band Research Survey Chart 10140kHz to 10150kHz Digital/Auto Sub-Band Click here: http://hflink.com/bandplans/10mhz/ The RTTY DXing chart is a perfect demonstation of why i don't really want any promotion for this band :p -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] another non- contest on a no contest band
2008/4/11, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If anything it will be a very interesting scientific study of which digimodes work at these levels and which don't. Ermm Scientific study ? -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] another non- contest on a no contest band
2008/4/11, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it may make people think about using modes other than PSK31 Now that's a wonderfull idea ;) psk31 is a good mode, too bad it's (badly) overused :( -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] Re: another non- contest on a no contest band
2008/4/12, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What would you suggest David to promote the 30 Meter band? I'm all ears and you can list all your ideas here or email me direct if you wish. Simple. The 30m band don't need any promotion :) I like and use 30m because : - There is no contest - There is no SSB - There is no CW pile-up with tons of OMG CQ D FFS 59 KTHXBYE running on overstressed KiloWatt-class amp (who said CW had no bandwidth ? :p ) - lot of QRPer, fuzzy mode, Visual MEPT, ... - in 1 word : peacefull band :) The 30m band have many unofficial (a real gentlman agreement) sub-sub-sub-band. And bringing people that are not used to the lovely 30m band is a bad idea. I love the idea to promote QRP, QRPp, unusual digital mode. And the 30m band is perfect for that. The 30m is perfect for that, exactly because there is no event, no contest, no pile-up, no DX chasing, ... Well, because it's quiet and there is a lot of free bandwidth for experimentation. I don't know about other country, but the french law explain in the radioamateur definition that you can transmit ONLY for learning purpose and technical experimentation. Event, Contest, ... shouldn't happen. It is, of course, totally ignored by most operator. But i'd like to keep the 30m for learning purpose and experimentation... as it's supposed to be on every band. That's why i'm personally against this non-contest/event/weekend. And about the bring it on. It look like a random signature from his mail client. *hugs* -- F4FQM Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] WSPR - Freq
The frequency for digital MEPT on 30m is : 10.140,100 to 10.140.200 The frequency for visual MEPT on 30m is : 10.140,000 ot 10.140.100 digital mept = WSPR visual mept = QRSS, C/MT Hell, S/MT Hell, Castle, and other fuzzy mode. -- Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
Re: [digitalradio] Re: 30 meter Observations
Hi I planned to build a dipole antenna for 30m. Mostly for C/MT HELL, SlowHell and other Hell mode. I'd like to try the jason mode too, and some other extremely slow mode. Seen some 10Hz large slow C/MT Hell screenshot. Any guess about the used software for that ? Even found a 0.5Hz (!!!) MT Hell. http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/hellpics.htm -- F4FQM On Jan 11, 2008 3:02 AM, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John VE5MU, I agree with your observations...the band is great and under used. I can tell you it doesn't die at night, it is open most all night but just not used, thus the auto spotters to provide documentation along with the Propnet stations that are documenting 30m also. de kb9umt Don EN50dp 30MDG#0001 www.30meterdigital.org --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Curt Givens[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John and others I just opened MixW and tuned up on 10.140 don't see anything on the waterfall but will try to watch and listen for a bit. XYL just got in from work and dinner will need preparing soon. See you on the waterfall. 73's Curt Curt Givens KC8STE, AAR5VR Army MARS Earthdog and Special Programs Director GCDOC/GCAC Dayton, OH Registering lawful Americans who possess a gun to stop armed criminals, is like registering virgins to stop prostitution. _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [digitalradio] 30 meter Observations Over the past several weeks I have been operating digital modes on 30m and have come to the conclusion that This is a highly under-rated band. Currently there are 3 automatic spotting stations running on 30M PSK on 10140.0. They are N9Puz, KF4IN, and VK2XGT. The spotting page is very rapid, with spots appearing as fast as you do. VK2XGT is hearing very little North American stations, with only the occasional K6 showing up. The VK station is posting lots of European stations, however and I can only hope that our summer propagation on 30M is as good as what they are hearing. From my QTH, which is DO70QK , N9PUZ is 1668km (1000 miles) away and KF4IN is 3197km (1900 miles) away. Both stations are almost on the same bearing from me (approx 130deg) Most days, N9PUZ is able to hear me from about 1300Z to 0400/0500Z, and posts my call automatically . even when the band appears to be completely dead in the evenings, the N9 station usually posts my call after the first try. KF4IN will post calls from me at different times during the day mainly from 1600z to 2200z. I have not shown up on the VK station. It would be interesting to see a little more activity on 30M in the evenings to see what the propagation really does. The 30M spotting page can be found at http://www.projects http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m/ andparts.com/30m/ John VE5MU _ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.1.4 http://www.iolo.com http://www.iolo.com/iav/iavpop3 ___ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.1.4 http://www.iolo.com -- -- Kerunix Flan Laurent Laborde
