Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Rotten Robbie
HF FSK is full power carrier. 100% duty cycle while transmitting. The AFSK 
SSB mode is linear and the signal level is controlled buy the audio drive 
level which must be held below the saturation point of the transmitter 
stages.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question


 sholtofish wrote:
 Following on from this thread and reading some of Peter's comments makes 
 me wonder what method is best for 300 baud HF packet with a TNC? FSK or 
 AFSK? Or won't it make any difference? Will FSK result in a wider 
 bandwidth?

 The main advantage of FSK, so I am led to believe, is that some radios
 allow better filtering as standard for FSK than the SSB system used for
 AFSK.

 I don't think that either is, necessarily, wider bandwidth. Unless
 there's some problem with the audio drive for the 'A' in AFSK.

 Both should be the same in terms of baud rate and the spacing between
 the Mark and Space ratio, I would think.

 Dave (G0DJA)


 

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Re: [digitalradio] Olivia Contacts on 40m ? ! ?

2010-01-15 Thread Rotten Robbie
Who is OLIVIA?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark

- Original Message - 
From: A repeater.kee...@yahoo.co.uk
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Olivia Contacts on 40m ? ! ?


 Hi All,

 Does anyone actually use 7.043.250 ?

 All the data I can find indicates that this should be the freq to get 
 QSO's, but I'm yet to SEE, HEAR, or READ any signals on this freq.

 The only activity I've found has been on 7.038.250 +/- PSK  MFSK etc., 
 and using 250/8, and the very few stations I have worked on 40m have not 
 worked anyone on .043 !

 Is 7.043.250 still valid for Region 1  3 or infact anywhere ?

 Is there anyone out there actually using 7.043.025 ?

 If not, then can anyone let me have the WHAT, WHERE, and WHEN regarding 
 40m Olivia activity, please.

 Cheers  73's
 Dave, G3ZXX.




 

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31

2010-01-05 Thread Rotten Robbie
Last weekend was the RTTY contest. All digital mode were eligible.

All I heard was RTTY. I am only able to receive on 40M and 20M at the present 
time.

The propagation is in the sewer so I was very limited on what I could hear. I 
am near Seattle and the only stations I was able to copy were in 6 Land.

All I was able to hear was RTTY. I did not hear any PSK.

I get the impression that RTTY is still the predominant digital mode.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
  - Original Message - 
  From: Music Maker 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:41 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31




  Glenn,

  99% will always use PSK  31  ...  ???-   Only 3% will try something new 
?? ... !!

  I assume that this survey for percentages, was completed after we switched 
from using teleprinters and RTTY or to  Packet, AMTOR, or even back in the good 
old days when we stopped using AM and started using SSB  (We used to call it 
'Phone').

  I suspect a lot more than 3% have open minds to evaluate different advances, 
or that 99% will always use the same mode.

  If not,  then we would still be using separate Transmitters with a apark gap 
and Receivers with a crystal and Cats whisker, and sending each other Morse.

  At least in those days we didn't have Call Signs,  We all knew each 
other, and Pontious Pilot was an Air Cadet !!!

  73's

  John

  www.John4Music.TV 


  
.
  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@... 
wrote:
  
   It seems to me that we have been down this road before comparing the 
different digital modes. One thing is for certain, no matter what modes there 
are that may do much better than PSK31, 99% of all operators will always use 
PSK31. 
   It is almost impossible to get more than 3% of the operators to try 
something new.
   Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV)
   
   
   
   
   
   From: Vojtech bubn...@...
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 7:41:56 AM
   Subject: [digitalradio] Re: IZ8BLY's PSK63F + PSKFEC31
   
   Â  
   PSK63F is implemented in PocketDigi, source code is available.
   
PSK63F is in all cases better than PSK31. The only advantage of PSK31 is 
its smaller bandwidth.
   
   The other benefit of PSK31 is quick turnaround. But I agree that PSK63F 
shall be exercised and will be very useful at marginal conditions.
   
   73, Vojtech
  



  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HRD will communicate FLDIGI and WSPR will 'not' via same port

2010-01-05 Thread Rotten Robbie
The solution is to learn how to remove the device from the system before 
unplugging it. Look for an icon in your system tray for the item.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
- Original Message - 
From: graham787 g0...@hotmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 1:26 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: HRD will communicate FLDIGI and WSPR will 'not' 
via same port




 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Wes Cosand wes.cos...@... wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:10 PM, graham787 g0...@... wrote:

 
 
  HRD will communicate FLDIGI and WSPR will 'not' via same port
  (not at the same time of course)
  Odd problem has occured  using a USB to Serial cable for the 
  FT-897-D
  HRD will communicate normally and control the rig ..
 
 Same thing happened to me when I reassigned a used port number to a USB
 virtual  serial port.  The rig could use the port but the rotor could 
 not.
 I had to clean out all the virtual serial ports in the registry and start
 over.

 Wes, WZ7I

 
  BUT
 
  Fldigi and Wspr .. now will not communicate ..all the settings look the
  same ... Fldigi will address a second usb/serial cable alocated com-4 
  to
  operate the ptt .. as will other progs
  WSPR as dose Fldigi reports cannot communicate
 
  Close then down .. open HRD and the link works normaly .. same cable ..
  same settings ..
 
  All progs used to work with the serial cable ... and ideas ? dose HRD 
  have
  some form of auto baud routine thats masking some setting ??
 
  tnx - G .
 
 
 

 Ok Wes.

 Is there a  simple way to  solve the  reg problem ??

 tnx - G ..



 

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Re: [digitalradio] Packet Operation???

2010-01-03 Thread Rotten Robbie
The new units I have been looking at have an optional module that is 
installed in the transceiver and allow direct connection to a PC serial 
port. I assume the optional modules are effectively TNCs.

Are the TNC connectors on the back of the unit that don't have an internal 
TNC merely sound input/output circuits?

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
- Original Message - 
From: Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Packet Operation???


 k5myj wrote:
 I have been looking at some of the newer VHF mobile tranceivers. Mine
 is a 2003 variety. The next one Kenwood built has a PACKET connector
 on it.

 Is this Packet interface usable as a digital mode between two
 stations in simplex mode?

 My next step is to locate packet software and find out how it works.

 Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa.

 The data connector found on many VHF/UHF FM radios is for connecting an
 external TNC (Terminal Node Controller). The TNC interfaces your radio
 to a computer.

 On VHF a baud rate of 1200 baud is normally used. You can keyboard back
 and forth between two or more radios quite easily. There are programs
 around that make this simple but you can also just use something like
 Hyperterminal. TNCs vary by manufacturer. The exact commands required to
 connect, etc. can change somewhat.

 http://www.choisser.com/packet/ has info on basic packet. It is not
 nearly as popular as it once was but does serve as the underlying
 transport mechanism for things like APRS and the VHF/UHF modes for
 Winlink 2000 email via RF.

 Tim, N9PUZ



 

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Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?

2010-01-02 Thread Rotten Robbie
I'm curious to what is the reason for a lack of interest on VHF/UHF FM to do 
anything other than talk on the local repeater.

The Rigblaster has everything necessary to connect a computer to a VFH RICEBOX. 
I have been looking at being able to control the RICEBOX through the microphone 
connector.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
  - Original Message - 
  From: DANNY DOUGLAS 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?





  Ive worked a few stations rtty on 6, but there arent many - apparently 
capable.

  Danny Douglas
  N7DC
  ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
  All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at:  DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU
  CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F
  Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
  I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.  
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- Original Message - 
From: k5myj 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?


  
Does anyone use an digital modes on 6M FM or 2M FM?

In the 60's and 70's we used AFSK RTTY on these bands.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.








Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?

2010-01-02 Thread Rotten Robbie
I'll have to go to the library to do that. but I will.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
  - Original Message - 
  From: KH6TY 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?




  Check page 30 in the June 2009 QST.

  73

Skip KH6TY



  Rotten Robbie wrote: 
  

I'm curious to what is the reason for a lack of interest on VHF/UHF FM to 
do anything other than talk on the local repeater.

The Rigblaster has everything necessary to connect a computer to a VFH 
RICEBOX. I have been looking at being able to control the RICEBOX through the 
microphone connector.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
  - Original Message - 
  From: DANNY DOUGLAS 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?


  Ive worked a few stations rtty on 6, but there arent many - apparently 
capable.

  Danny Douglas
  N7DC
  ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
  All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at:  DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU
  CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F
  Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
  I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.  
  Moderator
  DXandTALK
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
  Digital_modes
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159

- Original Message - 
From: k5myj 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?


  
Does anyone use an digital modes on 6M FM or 2M FM?

In the 60's and 70's we used AFSK RTTY on these bands.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.






  

Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?

2010-01-02 Thread Rotten Robbie
In the PNW there is a group trying to make JT65 work on 2M SSB.

I have not heard anything out of them lately.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
Real Radios Glow In The Dark
- Original Message - 
From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Digital?


 At 05:01 PM 1/2/2010, you wrote:


We have a group on SSB here

 Here being?





 

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