Re: [digitalradio] New 200kHz Wideband Digital Voice on 20 meters in USA?
"Mere opinions, no matter how informed or ignorant, are not going to stop these changes." So Bonnie using the logic of the above comment, then those that are opposed being informed or not, should not make their wishes known, and just roll over ignore what they think is wrong because it is going to happen anyway. Using that kind of thinking, why get out of bed, because sooner or later you are going to die, and there is no question about that, as everyone days have been numbered since the day you were born. I might not be an expert on digital, but I do have some training in it, and I am not ignorant in any way or form, but my opinion does count, even if to say that I want a valid reason for certain modes to have exclusive right or not. I am not opposed to going digital, but I am opposed to certain modes running ruffshod over the rest, be it Oliva,JT25A,PactorIII, and having certain things shoved down our throats to appease the few. The ARRL if it is suppose to represent All hams of the US, then they should look for a concensus from ALL the hams on what they want not just a few from within their membership, of which I am a member. Kurt
Re: [digitalradio] The ARRL
VE5MU John, I have never been one to be PC, but I will have to remember that. Kurt
Re: [digitalradio] The ARRL
Well being bald, I don't have to worry about the bad hair, but yes the ARRL has got some of us wound up. Kurt/K8YZK - Original Message - From: Mel To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:38 PM Subject: [digitalradio] The ARRL Well, the ARRL seems to get you all wound up ! Seems to me a lot of you folks are having a bad hair day, every day ! G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......
Ah come on John, isn't this better then watching a curling or hockey game? Guess Kidding GO WINGS Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up .. Yawn. How about you move this ARRL rant somewhere else and let's stick to digital radio stuff? We've heard all this before , and still remain totally baffled over the US ham's love of rules!! John VE5MU - Original Message - From: bruce mallon To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up .. 1) Who are you talking to ? No one by the name BRFUCE here must be a lost digital bit at 100 khz wide 2.4 ghz digi . 2) THEY are the ARRL 3)THEY are supose to do the will of the members 4)THEY don't seem intrested in doing THAT. 5) THEY should be asking for the members not the members have to ask THEM. 6) OR THEY ARE USELESS . --- John Champa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brfuce, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 4/27/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption
Well I guess I will fight not to have encryption on ham radio but wait isn't that what SCS/Winlink folks already have. Adapt or give in, mmmhh, I guess I will not do neither but to continue to fight the commericalization of ham radio..\ Kurt - Original Message - From: John Champa To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Cans of worms all over the place, Kurt. Get used to it. It will only be getting worse. Adapt or perish. Original Message Follows From: "wa8vbx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:13:39 -0400 So if encryption is allowed/use on Ham Radio who is going to control the crpyto gear, and who is going to set the daily keys? Who says station K1XXX can have a setup up but K1XXZ can't, even though both are working encomm's. So of the reasons you give might be valid, but it is would be opening up another can of worms, just like the deal with the Red Cross is with their background checks. I say HR does not need encryption, and no it would not provide seamless capability. My 2 cents Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption > Bill N9DSJ wrote: > Can see no valid reason for encryption on our frequencies. If one > could provide an single example I would be interested.. Hi Bill, Hams should certainly have the capability to pass over-the-air encrypted traffic or scrambled speech for emergencies and disaster relief. There are other situations where it would be useful, too. In order to have seamless capability in an emergency, hams should be familiar and proficient with the use of it on a regular basis. Encryption should not be with the sole intent to obscure the content from other hams, but it should be availble to hams when there is a need to shield sensitive data and information from evil-doers. Here are a few reasons for hams to use limited encryption in the over-the-air communication: 1. To shield private data 2. To shield private telephone numbers 3. To shield sensitive email addresses 4. To shield system passwords 5. To shield station remote control 6. To secure access to stations 7. To control satellites 8. To shield messages sent by a 3rd party to ham 9. To protect medical information 10. To protect 3rd party traffic requiring confidentiality 11. To control repeaters 12. To shield identities of children I'm sure there are more reasons... but that's some of the things I thought of in the few minutes it took to write this. Bonnie KQ6XA
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption
So if encryption is allowed/use on Ham Radio who is going to control the crpyto gear, and who is going to set the daily keys? Who says station K1XXX can have a setup up but K1XXZ can't, even though both are working encomm's. So of the reasons you give might be valid, but it is would be opening up another can of worms, just like the deal with the Red Cross is with their background checks. I say HR does not need encryption, and no it would not provide seamless capability. My 2 cents Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption > Bill N9DSJ wrote: > Can see no valid reason for encryption on our frequencies. If one > could provide an single example I would be interested.. Hi Bill, Hams should certainly have the capability to pass over-the-air encrypted traffic or scrambled speech for emergencies and disaster relief. There are other situations where it would be useful, too. In order to have seamless capability in an emergency, hams should be familiar and proficient with the use of it on a regular basis. Encryption should not be with the sole intent to obscure the content from other hams, but it should be availble to hams when there is a need to shield sensitive data and information from evil-doers. Here are a few reasons for hams to use limited encryption in the over-the-air communication: 1. To shield private data 2. To shield private telephone numbers 3. To shield sensitive email addresses 4. To shield system passwords 5. To shield station remote control 6. To secure access to stations 7. To control satellites 8. To shield messages sent by a 3rd party to ham 9. To protect medical information 10. To protect 3rd party traffic requiring confidentiality 11. To control repeaters 12. To shield identities of children I'm sure there are more reasons... but that's some of the things I thought of in the few minutes it took to write this. Bonnie KQ6XA
Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)
Ah so it's now time to pick on us stateside operators. Maybe if those in the rest of the world who are having the same problem would speak up(wait John I think I remember seeing you complain some), then this problem could worked out to the best of ALL. Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info) Amen Jose; Seems all the stateside operators want to do is argue. Is the plan to go back to the fundementals of this group, or do we set up a new one where policy arguments would be punted? John VE5MU No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz Freq Coordination Info
Jose it might sound absurd, but then again man flying to the moon, satellite communications and cellphones, they all at one time were called absurded, but they are real now. Don't know in Cuba but here, almost everyone has a cellphone. Also just because a section of freq's are set aside for automatic operation doesn't mean that they can't be used, by stations other then automatic ones. Yes it might not be possible now, but then again if someone does not complain or try, we will never know if it is possible. 73 Kurt Recent Activity a.. 18New Members b.. 1New Files Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Ham radio b.. Ham radio antenna c.. Ham radio store d.. Craft hobby e.. Hobby and craft supply Live in Style Want to be Martha? Tell us why and be a winner! Y! GeoCities Create a Blog And tell the world what you think. Biz Resources Y! Small Business Articles, tools, forms, and more. .
Re: [digitalradio] 141A
John I can copy you but do not hear the EA here near Detroit. Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: [digitalradio] 141A Anyone want to take a run at EA2AFR on 14109.5 (1500) who is trying out 141A. as of 1800Z I can hear him but can't connect John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down??
Peter I was just in QRZ and had no problems getting in. 73 Kurt K8YZK - Original Message - From: Peter G. Viscarola To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: [digitalradio] qrz.com ... down?? It's 16:45Z, and it seems that both WWW.QRZ.COM and online.qrz.com are down (neither is even answering pings). Anybody else seeing this, and if so... anybody know what's up?? de Peter K1PGV
Re: [digitalradio] Operating Methods on ALE Channels
Good ALE ham operation requires a level of operator responsibility, and cooperation above what is needed for some other "modes". Bonnie does this mean that ALE operators are better then those that do not operate ALE. A very smug and dumb remark in my opinion. I do not operate ALE but I do operate other digital modes, along with SSB and CW so how is ALE operator more responsible then the rest of us. Kurt K8YZK Recent Activity a.. 24New Members Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Ham radio b.. Ham radio antenna c.. Ham radio store d.. Craft hobby e.. Hobby and craft supply Sell Online Start selling with our award-winning e-commerce tools. Y! GeoCities Create a Web Site Easy-to-use tools. Get started now. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .
Re: [digitalradio] Operating Methods on ALE Channels
l Good ALE ham operation requires a level of operator responsibility, and cooperation above what is needed for some other "modes". " Recent Activity a.. 24New Members Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS a.. Ham radio b.. Ham radio antenna c.. Ham radio store d.. Craft hobby e.. Hobby and craft supply Sell Online Start selling with our award-winning e-commerce tools. Y! GeoCities Create a Web Site Easy-to-use tools. Get started now. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .
