Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-23 Thread WN1Z
John GM4SLV:

If you are putting together an HF-oriented call3.txt, here is mine:

WN1Z CN90qk




Orrin wn1z
northeastern California


Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread John GM4SLV
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:20:49 -0400
Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like Shetland John's idea about deep search work on 12 or 10 M.  I
 think I will give it a try tomorrow on 12 and see what I come up
 with.  Will check prop charts for best time to north of John O'
 Groats...
 
 Andy K3UK


Andy et al,

I'm going to try CQ on 24.910 (DF 0hz) on Fist Minute for most of the
day while I'm around the house. I don't expect to be overwhelmed with a
pile up!

My simple station at the moment is IC706mk2g, set to ~20w on the sync
tone, and a random length doublet only 2m agl (it was put up to monitor
the 5MHz beacons sytem we have over here for our 5MHz Experiment, for
which it seems to wirk adequately even given its low height, but has
been pressed into service for JT65A).

I will look into creating a deep search text file for as many Digital
Radio members as I see are active, and I'll guess the LOC if I have to
and enable the function later in the day when I've built the file. 

It's off CQing now as I type (@ 0928z)

Let's see what I see over the day.

BTW I saw nothing of the Olivia you were trying on 20m in the early
hours (over here) - 20m was closed completely.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV IP90gg



Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread John GM4SLV
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:32:25 +0100
John GM4SLV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm going to try CQ on 24.910 (DF 0hz) on Fist Minute for most of the
 day while I'm around the house. I don't expect to be overwhelmed with
 a pile up!
 
 My simple station at the moment is IC706mk2g, set to ~20w on the sync
 tone, and a random length doublet only 2m agl (it was put up to
 monitor the 5MHz beacons sytem we have over here for our 5MHz
 Experiment, for which it seems to wirk adequately even given its low
 height, but has been pressed into service for JT65A).


I ran for several hours this morning and saw no responses or other
signals. I need to go out for a few hours so have stopped the CQ calls
at 1312z. I'll restart when I return later this afternoon (UK time).

Knowing me I'll miss the tiny 1/2 hour long opening when signals
appear, but hey, there's always another day!

John GM4SLV IP90gg


Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien

I'm not sure which Shetland island you are on John, I checked the Lerwick
market web cam but did not see you out doing your shopping.  I will try you
later.
Andy K3UK


On 4/21/07, John GM4SLV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:32:25 +0100
John GM4SLV [EMAIL PROTECTED]gm4slv%40sighthound.demon.co.uk
wrote:


 I'm going to try CQ on 24.910 (DF 0hz) on Fist Minute for most of the
 day while I'm around the house. I don't expect to be overwhelmed with
 a pile up!

 My simple station at the moment is IC706mk2g, set to ~20w on the sync
 tone, and a random length doublet only 2m agl (it was put up to
 monitor the 5MHz beacons sytem we have over here for our 5MHz
 Experiment, for which it seems to wirk adequately even given its low
 height, but has been pressed into service for JT65A).

I ran for several hours this morning and saw no responses or other
signals. I need to go out for a few hours so have stopped the CQ calls
at 1312z. I'll restart when I return later this afternoon (UK time).

Knowing me I'll miss the tiny 1/2 hour long opening when signals
appear, but hey, there's always another day!

John GM4SLV IP90gg
 





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Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread John GM4SLV
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:37:31 -0400
Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not sure which Shetland island you are on John, I checked the
 Lerwick market web cam but did not see you out doing your shopping.
 I will try you later.
 Andy K3UK
 


Hi Andy,

Just returned and see absolutely no evidence of any signals on 24.910
while I was out (left in on MONITOR). Now restored to CQ on first
minute.

I'm on the main island, and was in Lerwick, but didn't go to the Market
Cross so kept myself incongito!

If 12m fails to show anything perhaps we could try 15m another time. It
would probably need to be an afternoon UTC for UK/USA path?

I'll leave it running for now.

BTW what's your (and anyone else who's interested) Locator to 6 figs
and I'll start a new deep search file.

Cheers,


John GM4SLV IP90GG


Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien

John, name is Andy and am in FN02hk .  I have been monitoring 12M while
watching footy on the telly but just checked and see no  received signals
from anyone on 12M.  I will transmit for a while and see if anyone picks me
up.

Andy.


On 4/21/07, John GM4SLV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:37:31 -0400
Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] andrewobrie%40gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure which Shetland island you are on John, I checked the
 Lerwick market web cam but did not see you out doing your shopping.
 I will try you later.
 Andy K3UK


Hi Andy,

Just returned and see absolutely no evidence of any signals on 24.910
while I was out (left in on MONITOR). Now restored to CQ on first
minute.

I'm on the main island, and was in Lerwick, but didn't go to the Market
Cross so kept myself incongito!

If 12m fails to show anything perhaps we could try 15m another time. It
would probably need to be an afternoon UTC for UK/USA path?

I'll leave it running for now.

BTW what's your (and anyone else who's interested) Locator to 6 figs
and I'll start a new deep search file.

Cheers,

John GM4SLV IP90GG
 





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www.obriensweb.com


Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread John GM4SLV
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:58:12 -0400
Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John, name is Andy and am in FN02hk .  I have been monitoring 12M
 while watching footy on the telly but just checked and see no
 received signals from anyone on 12M.  I will transmit for a while and
 see if anyone picks me up.
 
 Andy.
 

Thanks for listening/looking Andy.

I'll start an HF oriented CALL3.TXT file and distribute it via the
files section on the yahoo group page. Already people are starting to
email me Callsign  Locator pairs. The file actually has more fields
available for each entry (it's a comma seperated text file), if you look
through it, and some fields are for personal/equipment details too, as
well as the EME field.

I've been calling CQ on 24.910 since 1608 UTC (time now 1730 UTC) and
in that time have seen nothing during the second minute RX periods.

I'll leave it for a while longer...

John GM4SLV IP90gg


Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi John

I have be monitoring 24.910 almost the hole day with no luck, but
I was able to work South Africa on 40meter (7.045 USB) with
my 12 m dipole right now.

The antenna is about 8 meter above the ground and I was using 75W.


193700  3  -21  0.1   -8  3 *  LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461  10
193900  3  -22  0.1   -8  3 *  LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461  10
193900  3  -22  0.1   -8  3 *  LA5VNA ZS6WAB KG461  10
194100  0  -24 -0.5  -27 25   
194300 10  -19-9  3   RO  
194500  7  -17  0.3   -8  3 *  -27DB TU 73   1   0


LA5VNA Steinar










John GM4SLV wrote:

 On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:58:12 -0400
 Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:andrewobrie%40gmail.com wrote:

  John, name is Andy and am in FN02hk . I have been monitoring 12M
  while watching footy on the telly but just checked and see no
  received signals from anyone on 12M. I will transmit for a while and
  see if anyone picks me up.
 
  Andy.
 

 Thanks for listening/looking Andy.

 I'll start an HF oriented CALL3.TXT file and distribute it via the
 files section on the yahoo group page. Already people are starting to
 email me Callsign  Locator pairs. The file actually has more fields
 available for each entry (it's a comma seperated text file), if you look
 through it, and some fields are for personal/equipment details too, as
 well as the EME field.

 I've been calling CQ on 24.910 since 1608 UTC (time now 1730 UTC) and
 in that time have seen nothing during the second minute RX periods.

 I'll leave it for a while longer...

 John GM4SLV IP90gg

  



Re: [digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-21 Thread John Bradley

  I was at work all day, but monitored 24910 from about 1400Z to Z . 
some consistent activity
  on a couple of different DF's, but nothing decoded into a callsign

  Can do the same tomorrow

  John
  VE5MU 
   


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[digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien

I like Shetland John's idea about deep search work on 12 or 10 M.  I think I
will give it a try tomorrow on 12 and see what I come up with.  Will check
prop charts for best time to north of John O' Groats...

Andy K3UK


On 4/20/07, Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  No argument from me. Alot to be garnered from this...both technically
and socially. The discussion alone is of value. The mode suite is
pretty much what it is in context of its intent. That it provokes
interest on HF might be an arrow pointing towards abit different
goal. Might even mean that because it is not conversational, it
allows people to make contacts without having to converse with people
like me :)

In context, it is the tool of choice for me on MS and EMEthat it
can even be functional on HF is a side benefit.

As for the other modes, keep experimenting...

73

Bill N9DSJ

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I think W1JT has done an excellent job not only with the DSP and
mode
 design but also with the software, making it open souirce,
documenting
 it well both technically and for users, and seeding further
development
 with a group of others. I don't mean to detract from this work at
all.

 I think there are lessons to learn from JT65a on HF, and we should
make
 sure we understand why it works and how, and that includes the
social
 processes and the technical ones, before we go tweaking it.

 I think there is definitely room for a new mode that brings some of
its
 advantages, and as Bonnie says, this time in the sunspot cycle is
the
 perfect crucible.

 So, let's keep using it and getting experience, but also make the
effort
 to look critically and deconstruct it.

 73,
 Leigh/WA5ZNU


 





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