Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available
Contest again %#%¤% :( :( !! la5vna Tony wrote: All, Patrick has made some improvements to the ARQ/FAE ALE-400 mode and would like to see if it's working ok (see below). You'll need to download the latest test version of Multipsk: http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP I'll be QRV this evening on 14074.0 +/- QRM starting 2300z. Skeds welcome. Tony -K2MO ___ Hello to all testers, In the new test version of Multipsk (see below), I improved the ARQ FAE mode and fixed some bugs. I would like to check if all is OK. http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP Paste this adress in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. Download the file. Create a tempory folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the file in it and start C:\TEST\Multipsk.exe (the auxiliary files will be created automatically). Experimentation of the ARQ FAE / ALE400 For experimentation, I will call, saturday, on 14075 KHz USB HF 1000 Hz AF +/- QRM, in ARQ FAE / ALE400 for QSO since 10h00 UTC until 11h00 UTC. It will be sent previously to each ARQ FAE frame a RS ID, so PSE push on the RX RS ID button. http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Multipsk.doc http://f6cte.free.fr/The_ARQ_FAE_beacon_easy_with_Multipsk.doc Don't hesitate to send your own Call ID or Prop ID. TKS for reports! 73 Patrick
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available
how do you set it up to work. i have a kenwood ts680 radio and signalusb. thanks paul --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 3:37 AM Contest again %#%¤% :( :( ! ! la5vna Tony wrote: All, Patrick has made some improvements to the ARQ/FAE ALE-400 mode and would like to see if it's working ok (see below). You'll need to download the latest test version of Multipsk: http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_13_ 08_2009.ZIP I'll be QRV this evening on 14074.0 +/- QRM starting 2300z. Skeds welcome. Tony -K2MO _ _ _ _ ___ Hello to all testers, In the new test version of Multipsk (see below), I improved the ARQ FAE mode and fixed some bugs. I would like to check if all is OK. http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_13_ 08_2009.ZIP Paste this adress in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. Download the file. Create a tempory folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the file in it and start C:\TEST\Multipsk. exe (the auxiliary files will be created automatically) . Experimentation of the ARQ FAE / ALE400 For experimentation, I will call, saturday, on 14075 KHz USB HF 1000 Hz AF +/- QRM, in ARQ FAE / ALE400 for QSO since 10h00 UTC until 11h00 UTC. It will be sent previously to each ARQ FAE frame a RS ID, so PSE push on the RX RS ID button. http://f6cte. free.fr/ALE_ and_ALE400_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc http://f6cte. free.fr/The_ ARQ_FAE_beacon_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc Don't hesitate to send your own Call ID or Prop ID. TKS for reports! 73 Patrick
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available
Hello Paul,
About XCVR and interface, it is not different from another mode.
About the Multipsk configuration, refer to:
http://f6cte. free.fr/ALE_ and_ALE400_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc
http://f6cte. free.fr/The_ ARQ_FAE_beacon_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc
73
Patrick
- Original Message -
From: paul odem
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available
how do you set it up to work. i have a kenwood ts680 radio and
signalusb. thanks paul
--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote:
From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version
Available
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 3:37 AM
Contest again %#%¤% :( :( ! !
la5vna
Tony wrote:
All,
Patrick has made some improvements to the ARQ/FAE ALE-400 mode and
would like to see if it's working ok (see below).
You'll need to download the latest test version of Multipsk:
http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_13_ 08_2009.ZIP
I'll be QRV this evening on 14074.0 +/- QRM starting 2300z. Skeds
welcome.
Tony -K2MO
_ _ _ _ ___
Hello to all testers,
In the new test version of Multipsk (see below), I improved the
ARQ FAE mode and fixed some bugs. I would like to check if all is OK.
http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_13_ 08_2009.ZIP
Paste this adress in your Internet Explorer or equivalent.
Download the file.
Create a tempory folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the file in
it and start C:\TEST\Multipsk. exe (the auxiliary files will be created
automatically) .
Experimentation of the ARQ FAE / ALE400
For experimentation, I will call, saturday, on 14075 KHz USB HF
1000 Hz AF +/- QRM, in ARQ FAE / ALE400 for QSO since 10h00 UTC until 11h00 UTC.
It will be sent previously to each ARQ FAE frame a RS ID, so PSE
push on the RX RS ID button.
http://f6cte. free.fr/ALE_ and_ALE400_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc
http://f6cte. free.fr/The_ ARQ_FAE_beacon_ easy_with_ Multipsk. doc
Don't hesitate to send your own Call ID or Prop ID.
TKS for reports!
73
Patrick
[digitalradio] ARQ FAE ALE400 - New Test Version Available
All, Patrick has made some improvements to the ARQ/FAE ALE-400 mode and would like to see if it's working ok (see below). You'll need to download the latest test version of Multipsk: http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP I'll be QRV this evening on 14074.0 +/- QRM starting 2300z. Skeds welcome. Tony -K2MO ___ Hello to all testers, In the new test version of Multipsk (see below), I improved the ARQ FAE mode and fixed some bugs. I would like to check if all is OK. http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP Paste this adress in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. Download the file. Create a tempory folder (C:\TEST, for example), unzip the file in it and start C:\TEST\Multipsk.exe (the auxiliary files will be created automatically). Experimentation of the ARQ FAE / ALE400 For experimentation, I will call, saturday, on 14075 KHz USB HF 1000 Hz AF +/- QRM, in ARQ FAE / ALE400 for QSO since 10h00 UTC until 11h00 UTC. It will be sent previously to each ARQ FAE frame a RS ID, so PSE push on the RX RS ID button. http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Multipsk.doc http://f6cte.free.fr/The_ARQ_FAE_beacon_easy_with_Multipsk.doc Don't hesitate to send your own Call ID or Prop ID. TKS for reports! 73 Patrick
[digitalradio] ARQ FAE - ALE400 - NBEMS dumb question
All, ARQ FAE in ALE400 has proven, in my limited experience, to be extremely robust compared to other ARQ modes and occupies reasonable bandwidth. How difficult would this mode be to port to FLARQ/NBEMS? It seems to me to be tailor-made for this application (but what do I know?). Is it a matter of using Multidem or Gui_serv_Multipsk to link to FLARQ? Sorry for the ignorant questions, but that is what I do best. 73, Bill N9DSJ
[digitalradio] ARQ FAE QSO
Hi Steinar, If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ? 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE QSO
OK, trying 10.136,500 Calling CQ now LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: Hi Steinar, If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ? 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE QSO
Nothing here Demetre, but I will monitor 14.109,50 tomorrow. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland skrev: OK, trying 10.136,500 Calling CQ now LA5VNA Steinar Demetre SV1UY skrev: Hi Steinar, If you are still at your PC can we try 10MHZ? 73 de Demetre SV1UY
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE
Nothing heard here in midwest U.S. but am calling CQ in FAE mode with Multipsk at 1800 Z. 73, Rick, KV9U Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE
Hi Rick Calling on 14.109 now LA5VNA Steinar Rick skrev: Nothing heard here in midwest U.S. but am calling CQ in FAE mode with Multipsk at 1800 Z. 73, Rick, KV9U Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi all, I am scanning 14.109 and 14.112 with multipsk in 141A mode. Is the someone out there who wants to try to contact me in ARQ FAE ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A
this morning could hear CO2JA, Jose on 14109.5 but couldn't work him with 141A. Did work him with about 85% copy on OLIVIA 1000/32 conditions noisy and with a little pactor QRM will keep trying, any other takers? John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A
Assuming you are centered on 14109.5, there has been a Pactor 3 station partically on that frequency. Tried calling you now since freq is clear but no response. But not sure of QRG. I am dial frequency 14.108 _1500 Hz. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: this morning could hear CO2JA, Jose on 14109.5 but couldn't work him with 141A. Did work him with about 85% copy on OLIVIA 1000/32 conditions noisy and with a little pactor QRM will keep trying, any other takers? John VE5MU No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE
Hello John, TKS for info. managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames Yes in long frames it works better where conditions are stable (as in 28, 50 or 144 MHz). In SW, it's better to have short waves. I've just finished to implement a Soft decision Memory Arq (as in Pactor but on carriers level not on bit level), which will limit mostly to one repetition at worst. It will be interesting to see what happens with long messages. would it be possbile , in future versions, to have the frame size switch automatically, depending on signal strength? long frames worked well last night on 80, despite some considerable noise. If the noise is constant, it is closed to a gaussian noise and it is favorable. The problem is QRM and quick QSB, which is difficult to estimate. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE patrick ... managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames but is great working under very marginal condx... looking forward to more experiments hi hi are you going to try 20m this weekend ? John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A
dial frequency 14109.5 plus 0ffset. Since everyone's offset may be different, easier to understand VFO freq and look up from there at 2000gmt back making noise John - Original Message - From: KV9U To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A Assuming you are centered on 14109.5, there has been a Pactor 3 station partically on that frequency. Tried calling you now since freq is clear but no response. But not sure of QRG. I am dial frequency 14.108 _1500 Hz. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: this morning could hear CO2JA, Jose on 14109.5 but couldn't work him with 141A. Did work him with about 85% copy on OLIVIA 1000/32 conditions noisy and with a little pactor QRM will keep trying, any other takers? John VE5MU -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE
the multiple repetitions of each packet worked in our favour last night, since some took 6 tries to get thru since conditions were so bad. JOhn - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE Hello John, TKS for info. managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames Yes in long frames it works better where conditions are stable (as in 28, 50 or 144 MHz). In SW, it's better to have short waves. I've just finished to implement a Soft decision Memory Arq (as in Pactor but on carriers level not on bit level), which will limit mostly to one repetition at worst. It will be interesting to see what happens with long messages. would it be possbile , in future versions, to have the frame size switch automatically, depending on signal strength? long frames worked well last night on 80, despite some considerable noise. If the noise is constant, it is closed to a gaussian noise and it is favorable. The problem is QRM and quick QSB, which is difficult to estimate. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE patrick ... managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames but is great working under very marginal condx... looking forward to more experiments hi hi are you going to try 20m this weekend ? John VE5MU -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/697 - Release Date: 2/22/2007 11:55 AM
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A
KV9U wrote: Assuming you are centered on 14109.5, there has been a Pactor 3 station partically on that frequency. Tried calling you now since freq is clear but no response. But not sure of QRG. I am dial frequency 14.108 _1500 Hz. 73, Rick, KV9U I found him on 14109.5 kHz dial QRG + 1500 Hz AF, USB. Jose, CO2JA __ V Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética. 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007 Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier
Re: [digitalradio] ARQ FAE and 141A
John, If you indicate a frequency (QRG), then you should be on that frequency. It is precisely because everyone's offset will be different, that you can NOT use a dial frequency without specifying that it is a dial frequency and then it also specifying the offset you are using. Because we have a waterfall for digital modes, and because there is often a center line to show the center frequency, it is my contention that you should place your cursor (for those modes that permit this) at the point on your waterfall to insure that you are really on the frequency you say you are going to be on. In my case, I typically use an ICOM rig that requires the center point to be offset 1500 Hz from the carrier or dial frequency. Thus, if someone says they are going to be on 14109.5, I move my VFO to 14.108.0 so that I will be close to their QRG. If they center their mode, then we will be very close allowing for rig differences in accuracy. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: dial frequency 14109.5 plus 0ffset. Since everyone's offset may be different, easier to understand VFO freq and look up from there at 2000gmt back making noise John
[digitalradio] ARQ FAE
patrick ... managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames but is great working under very marginal condx... looking forward to more experiments hi hi are you going to try 20m this weekend ? John VE5MU
