Re: [digitalradio] More use of 30 metres
Mel, it makes sense to me. It seems that "wide" bandwidths are needed by some modes under tough conditions but I am generally happy with modes that take up as little room as possible. > Hello, > > Just to clarify my comment that I don't like the idea of one wide > band mode taking up the space which is being USED, by at least 20 PSK > users. As I clearly said, at least six QSO's were wiped out. > > Is that not sufficient reason ? > > Mel G0GQK > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] More use of 30 metres
Hello, Just to clarify my comment that I don't like the idea of one wide band mode taking up the space which is being USED, by at least 20 PSK users. As I clearly said, at least six QSO's were wiped out. Is that not sufficient reason ? Mel G0GQK Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] More use of 30 metres
At 04:04 PM 3/27/06, you wrote in part: >Can't say that I like this idea of filling up digital space with one >wide band digital mode where 20 PSK 31 users could be operating. > >Kind Regards, Mel G0GQK And other then them being a wide mode, the problem is ? ? ? ? ? ? There should not be one. If the frequency is not in use that I say have at it. I just love this thinking that some (most that never operated RTTY, Packet, Pactor & Amtor ) every mode should be 500 Hz or less. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] More use of 30 metres
Although I monitor 30 meters a fair amount, and call CQ from time to time on digital modes, I don't work many stations. I did work a station in FL in the last week who was using an attic loop. That QSO was Olivia and would have been hard to maintain with most other modes. Had MFSK16 and DominoEX/FEC contacts recently as well. One of the stations (but I don't remember who it was now) commented to me that 30 meters was THE band for digital, but I have not found that to be the case from the north midwest U.S.:) There is a fair amount of Pactor and on the upper end are some users for APRS running packet. We also have a frequent government? crypto station in about the middle of the band, and then I have heard some 5 letter CW stations. So I guess CW is not totally dead yet with "secret agents." Down at the bottom of the band is around 15 KHz or so of spread out CW Q's. Today we had some kind of major pileup but I don't know who the DX was. The main area that I work is 10130 to 10140. I sometimes put the dial on 10133 and call CQ up 1000 Hz in different modes. I am not a big user of PSK31 due to no FEC and not being very robust against difficult conditions, but it is very true that on the busy bands they are amazingly compact. However, if someone TX over the top of even one station, they are breaking the rules. 73, Rick, KV9U Mel wrote: >Pleased to see that there is more encouragement for people to use 30 >metres it has always been a rarely used band ever since the day it >was given to us. I remember when the only people who used were some >amateurs in France who used to chat to each other on phone. > >Of course there were mumblings about the use of SSB, but better that >than no use. I think I also remember hearing Australians chatting as >well. Obviously the band wasn't being used for morse code so, what >the hell, just chat ! > >I make calls on the band using PSK31 but after half an hour, and >maybe a contact, I go where its a bit busier. I call regularly on 17 >metres which is rarely used these days in Europe, and very often have >a contact with a Stateside station. > >Can't say that I like this idea of filling up digital space with one >wide band digital mode where 20 PSK 31 users could be operating. Last >week I saw at least 6 QSO's wiped out when someone opened up on top >of them. Its a Gatling machine gun operation, kill off everything in >its path. > >Kind Regards, Mel G0GQK > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] More use of 30 metres
Pleased to see that there is more encouragement for people to use 30 metres it has always been a rarely used band ever since the day it was given to us. I remember when the only people who used were some amateurs in France who used to chat to each other on phone. Of course there were mumblings about the use of SSB, but better that than no use. I think I also remember hearing Australians chatting as well. Obviously the band wasn't being used for morse code so, what the hell, just chat ! I make calls on the band using PSK31 but after half an hour, and maybe a contact, I go where its a bit busier. I call regularly on 17 metres which is rarely used these days in Europe, and very often have a contact with a Stateside station. Can't say that I like this idea of filling up digital space with one wide band digital mode where 20 PSK 31 users could be operating. Last week I saw at least 6 QSO's wiped out when someone opened up on top of them. Its a Gatling machine gun operation, kill off everything in its path. Kind Regards, Mel G0GQK Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
