[digitalradio] PSKmail server no longer on 20m

[Russell Blair]

Sorry I have turned off the server, I'm how testing with Tony on 30m on his 
server, but 30m is very noisey for me.

Russell
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server 20m

[Russell Blair]

I'm back home FLdigi had stop working, so it now running and the mode is 
PSK250, 20m at 14116 on my dial.

Russell NC5O  
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Tony]

Russell,

No rush...

Tony -K2MO


- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Well Tony, I misspoke about the AFC being on because in THOR22 you cant set 
the AFC is grayed out. I want be back home till sunday after noon and then I 
can check things better. Avery thing should be fine other I have not had 
anyone to connect to me via thor22 before it has always been PSK250, I'm 
working on getting the server upgraded to the next version, then it will use 
RSID and change to the mode of the client. but I dont know Linux very will 
and I'm getting help doing the update , hope to have it soon and the new 
version of FLDIGI as well.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough 
to take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson


" IN GOD WE TRUST "


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693





From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 6:29:47 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Russell,

> Are you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Yes, just came through at 23:15 (00uNC5O:72 Pskmail 0.8.7 - 23:15:20 66E5) 
but I'm not able to connect. Signal is very strong.

Tony -K2MO



- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O
Tony, yes I left it on, I'm up at the CHOCTAW CASINOS for a few days. Are 
you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough 
to take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson


" IN GOD WE TRUST "


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell. Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693




 _ _ __
From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 4:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Russell,

> the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22

Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm assuming 
the AFC is on?

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Hal]

On 10-17, Alan Wilson wrote:
> Russell, I tried connecting to you yesterday evening from here in western
> montana, never heard a thing... I set the mode to thor22. I've been trying
> to get pskmail going, but no luck so far on 30 or 20 meters...Maybe I'm
> doing something wrong..dunno...73, Alan
> 

Have you tried WB5CON on dial 10147.000 USB +1000Hz audio,
PSK250?? His signal arrives here in Northern WV almost 100% of the
time.. (During the day for sure.)

If you're only interested in Thor22; just disregard this..
-- 

Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCHUNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3
.

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Alan Wilson]

Russell, I tried connecting to you yesterday evening from here in western
montana, never heard a thing... I set the mode to thor22. I've been trying
to get pskmail going, but no luck so far on 30 or 20 meters...Maybe I'm
doing something wrong..dunno...73, Alan

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
>  Well Tony, I misspoke about the AFC being on because in THOR22 you cant
> set the AFC is grayed out. I want be back home till sunday after noon and
> then I can check things better. Avery thing should be fine other I have not
> had anyone to connect to me via thor22 before it has always been PSK250, I'm
> working on getting the server upgraded to the next version, then it will use
> RSID and change to the mode of the client. but I dont know Linux very
> will and I'm getting help doing the update , hope to have it soon and the
> new version of FLDIGI as well.
>
> Russell
>
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
> - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> " IN GOD WE TRUST "
>
>
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
> Skype-Russell.Blair
> Hell Field #300
> DRCC #55
> 30m Dig-group #693
>
>  --
> *From:* Tony 
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Fri, October 16, 2009 6:29:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O
>
>
>
> Russell,
>
> > Are you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.
>
> Yes, just came through at 23:15 (00uNC5O:72 Pskmail 0.8.7 - 23:15:20 66E5)
> but I'm not able to connect. Signal is very strong.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Russell Blair"  yahoo.com >
> To: >
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O
>
> Tony, yes I left it on, I'm up at the CHOCTAW CASINOS for a few days. Are
> you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.
>
> Russell
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
> - Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> " IN GOD WE TRUST "
>
>
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
> Skype-Russell. Blair
> Hell Field #300
> DRCC #55
> 30m Dig-group #693
>
>
>
>
>  _ _ __
> From: Tony >
> To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 4:13:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O
>
>
> Russell,
>
> > the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22
>
> Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm
> assuming the AFC is on?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



-- 
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Russell Blair]

Well Tony, I misspoke about the AFC being on because in THOR22 you cant set the 
AFC is grayed out. I want be back home till sunday after noon and then I can 
check things better. Avery thing should be fine other I have not had anyone to 
connect to me via thor22 before it has always been PSK250, I'm working on 
getting the server upgraded to the next version, then it will use RSID and 
change to the mode of the client. but I dont know Linux very will and I'm 
getting help doing the update , hope to have it soon and the new version of 
FLDIGI as well.

Russell
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 





From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 6:29:47 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

  
Russell, 
 
> Are you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.
 
Yes, just came through at 23:15 (00uNC5O:72 Pskmail 0.8.7 - 23:15:20 66E5) but 
I'm not able to connect. Signal is very strong.  
 
Tony -K2MO
 
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O
Tony, yes I left it on, I'm up at the CHOCTAW CASINOS for a few days. Are you 
able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Russell 
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell. Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 




 _ _ __
From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 4:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Russell, 

> the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22

Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm assuming 
the AFC is on? 

Thanks, 

Tony -K2MO








  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Tony]

Russell, 

> Are you able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Yes, just came through at 23:15 (00uNC5O:72 Pskmail 0.8.7 - 23:15:20 66E5) but 
I'm not able to connect. Signal is very strong.  

Tony -K2MO



- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Tony, yes I left it on, I'm up at the CHOCTAW CASINOS for a few days. Are you 
able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Russell 
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 





From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 4:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O


Russell, 

> the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22

Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm assuming 
the AFC is on? 

Thanks, 

Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Russell Blair]

Tony, yes I left it on, I'm up at the CHOCTAW CASINOS for a few days. Are you 
able to copy my server when it pings avery 15 mins.

Russell 
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 





From: Tony 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 4:13:27 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

  
Russell, 
 
> the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22
 
Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm assuming 
the AFC is on?  
 
Thanks, 
 
Tony -K2MO
 



  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Tony]

Russell, 

> the server will be online 20m 14116 THOR22

Tried a few times on 14116.0 dial +1000Hz -- nothing heard yet. I'm assuming 
the AFC is on?  

Thanks, 

Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server @ NC5O

[Russell Blair]

I am off for the next three days and the server will be online 20m 14116 to be 
up band from the WINMOR testing. Mode will be THOR22. it on now..

Russell NC5O
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server 20m

[Russell Blair]

Sorry I had to take the server off line due to bad weather, its back on 14.116 
in THOR22 mode

Russell
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server 20m

[Russell Blair]

Due to the on going test on WINMOR my PSKmail server is on 14.116 on my dial, 
and the mode is THOR22. I will be here for the rest of the day.

Russell 
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail server 20m

[Russell Blair]

My server has been mover to 14.114 and the mode is THOR22.

Russell
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 


Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693 


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail server on 30m

[Russell Blair]

My PSKmail server back on 30m, and David give me a call on skype if you can 
help in the upgrades.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)

[Russell Blair]

Tony, Ok I have to go to calss today but I will put the server on line before I 
leave for class, When I update to the next version of server it will be able to 
change via RSID from the client. what aver mode the client is on the server 
will change, but I'm not there yet.
 
Russell

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Tony  wrote:


From: Tony 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 2:16 AM


  



Russell,

The THOR22 mode should do fine. I guess the QSY TRAFFIC option doesn't allow 
the user to switch modes on demand? Thanks for putting the server up for 
testing Russell.

Tony -K2MO

















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)

[Rein Couperus]

'QSY'  traffic is used on some servers to use a separate frequency for arq 
traffic.
On receipt of the QSY command the server will jump to that frequency. Mode will 
not switch.

There are 3 ways to switch modes:

* By using RSIDtx on the client and RSIDrx on the server...
The server needs fldigi-3.13 for that which has not yet been released.
On earlier fldigi versions RSIDrx will work only once on the server.

* By choosing the right minuteto connect  a scanning server
Some servers scan different frequencies/modes. Scan period is 
5 minutes, so minutes are 0,1,2,3 and 4.
See http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers for the schedule

* By switching modes on- the-fly during a connected session.
Just hit the mode you want in the Modes menu., and the client will 
send a mode switch command to the server.
The server will acknowledge the command and switch to the other mode.
Modes available on client jpskmail 3.8 beta are THOR8, THOR11, THOR16,
THOR22,, MFSK16, MFSK32, BPSK63, BPSK125, BPSK250 (default).
This is still experimental, and requires some experience :)

73,

Rein PA0R

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Tony" 
> Gesendet: 10.10.09 09:16:37
> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)


> Russell,
> 
> The THOR22 mode should do fine. I guess the QSY TRAFFIC option doesn't allow 
> the user to switch modes on demand? Thanks for putting the server up for 
> testing Russell.
> 
> Tony -K2MO
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)

[Tony]

Russell,

The THOR22 mode should do fine. I guess the QSY TRAFFIC option doesn't allow 
the user to switch modes on demand? Thanks for putting the server up for 
testing Russell.

Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server What mode ? (Tony)

[Russell Blair]

Tony what other mode would like to try, 
 
Russell

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Fri, 10/9/09, Tony  wrote:


From: Tony 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 4:21 PM


  




Russell,
 
Connected to your PSK Mail server on 14114 today - thanks for turning it on. 
There wasn't enough signal to decode consistently in PSK250 and I was wondering 
if the QSY TRAFFIC setting would allow your station to respond to the other 
more robust modes in PSK Mail?   
 
I'll give it another try this evening after 2230z. 
 
Thanks again. 
 
Tony, K2MO
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: "Digital Radio" 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m

> KF4WBS, has a PSKmail server on 3.588, this server can handle multi mode 
> using RSID give him a try when the other bands are gone, it's up most of the 
> time, for my server on 20m we have some bad weather comming in before I get 
> home from work so it comming down.
> 
> Russell NC5O
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough 
> to take everything you have. 
> - Thomas Jefferson
> 
> " IN GOD WE TRUST " 
> 
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
>  Skype-Russell. Blair
>  Hell Field #300
>  DRCC #55
>  30m Dig-group #693
> 
> 
>  
> 















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m

[Tony]

Russell,

Connected to your PSK Mail server on 14114 today - thanks for turning it on. 
There wasn't enough signal to decode consistently in PSK250 and I was wondering 
if the QSY TRAFFIC setting would allow your station to respond to the other 
more robust modes in PSK Mail?   

I'll give it another try this evening after 2230z. 

Thanks again. 

Tony, K2MO
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: "Digital Radio" 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m


> KF4WBS, has a PSKmail server on 3.588, this server can handle multi mode 
> using RSID give him a try when the other bands are gone, it's up most of the 
> time, for my server on 20m we have some bad weather comming in before I get 
> home from work so it comming down.
> 
> Russell NC5O
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough 
> to take everything you have. 
> - Thomas Jefferson
> 
> " IN GOD WE TRUST " 
> 
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
>  Skype-Russell.Blair
>  Hell Field #300
>  DRCC #55
>  30m Dig-group #693
> 
> 
>  
>

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server (NC5O)

[Russell Blair]

My pskmail server is on 20m 14.114.

Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail server on 3.588 via KF4WBS David Gray

[Russell Blair]

He on SKYPE as KF4WBS he knows a lot about PSKmail server and how it works.

Russell

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


  

[digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m

[Russell Blair]

KF4WBS, has a PSKmail server on 3.588, this server can handle multi mode using 
RSID give him a try when the other bands are gone, it's up most of the time, 
for my server on 20m we have some bad weather comming in before I get home from 
work so it comming down.

Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


  

RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m

[Russell Blair]

Fred, the server will ID at the top of the hour and 15,30,45 min fater the hour 
PSK250, now that 14.114 on my dial it maybe +/- on your dial.
 
Russell NC5O

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Fred VE3FAL  wrote:


From: Fred VE3FAL 
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:12 AM


  



I am listening on 14.114 but see nothing as of yet

Fred
VE3FAL

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:27 AM
To: Digital Radio
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m

My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial.

Russell 
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough
to take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell. Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

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RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m

[Fred VE3FAL]

I am listening on 14.114 but see nothing as of yet

Fred
VE3FAL

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Behalf Of Russell Blair
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:27 AM
To: Digital Radio
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m

My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial.

Russell 
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[digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m

[Russell Blair]

My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial.

Russell 
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2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
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[digitalradio] PSKmail Server moved 7087 Mhz

[Russell Blair]

I have moved my PSKmail server to 7087 for any test for a few hours.

Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
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[digitalradio] PSKmail Server moved

[Russell Blair]

7076 is very noisey hr so i have mover the server to 14.114 USB BPSK250
it will be hr till 0100 CST then I go back to work.

Russell

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

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[digitalradio] PSKmail Server

[Russell Blair]

My server is on line 7076 Mhz on ur dial just give a ping and it should respond 
back if it hears you with in the band pass.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail server

[andrewobrie]

Russell

Thanks. I did not hear u. Wx here also bad . No power at the moment due to high 
winds.
Andy via blackberry

-Original Message-
From: Russell Blair 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:15:59 
To: Digital Radio
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail server

If you send a ping and if my server hears you it will respond back to you as 
(QSL CALL). Hope the band will be good but it look like we have some bad 
weather moveing onto North Texas and I will have to pul the plug, till about 
9:00 CST and I will put the server back on line. I will send out a email out 
when it up and working.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

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[digitalradio] PSKmail server

[Russell Blair]

If you send a ping and if my server hears you it will respond back to you as 
(QSL CALL). Hope the band will be good but it look like we have some bad 
weather moveing onto North Texas and I will have to pul the plug, till about 
9:00 CST and I will put the server back on line. I will send out a email out 
when it up and working.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server

[Russell Blair]

Andy, the server pings on top hr and avery 15 mins.
BPSK250

1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
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--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Andrew O'Brien  wrote:


From: Andrew O'Brien 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:49 PM


  



OK, so far not hearing you.




On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Russell Blair  
wrote:


  



No its on 7076 on ur dial.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server

[Andrew O'Brien]

OK, so far not hearing you.



On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
> No its on 7076 on ur dial.
>
> Russell
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
> - Thomas Jefferson
>

[digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server

[Russell Blair]

No its on 7076 on ur dial.

Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

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  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server

[Andrew O'Brien]

GREAT!

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
> I'm going to move my PSKmail server to 7087 Mhz on your dial.
>
> Russell NC5O
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
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> Skype-Russell.Blair
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[digitalradio] PSKmail Server

[Russell Blair]

I'm going to move my PSKmail server to 7087 Mhz on your dial.

Russell NC5O
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2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson

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RE: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Rein Couperus]

The first mult-protocol pskmail gateway is now in testing.

At DA5UWG we have an XNet server running on the pskmail server, which functions 
as a pskmail/AX25 gateway to  pactor transport links on 20/15m , to the db0pdf 
packet digipeater, 
and to the IGate packet network.

73,

Rein PA0R

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Rud Merriam" 
> Gesendet: 18.05.09 02:19:24
> An: 
> Betreff: RE: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.


> I'll have to agree with Russell that I have not seen hostility here 
> toward packet.
> 
> If I may offer some constructive criticism, not meant as an attack. 
> When you start a message with "what you have is nice but WE have..." 
> you are likely to engender a defensive reaction. 
> 
> Addressing the issue of packet, you certainly are aware that better 
> protocols exist for use on HF. That is one of the goals of ham radio 
> to experiment and develop new technologies. PSKMail is a very 
> positive illustration of this. They created one means of providing a 
> messaging capability that has evolved to utilize new capabilities as 
> they became available. The NBEMS is similarly positioned to lever new 
> developments. 
> 
> Packet has technical shortcomings that have been addressed by other 
> protocols. Why not take advantage of the newer capabilities?
> 
>  - 73 - 
> Rud Merriam K5RUD
> ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> http://TheHamNetwork.net
> 
> -Original Message-
>  *From:* Charles Brabham [mailto:n5...@uspacket.org] 
>  *Sent:* Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:45 PM
>  *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>  *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
> 
> Group members will have to forgive a few members here who appear to 
> harbor some personal hostility regarding the SkipNets, and Packet 
> radio in general. To find out more about the SkipNets without getting 
> flames stirred up here, please contact me off-list for details.
> 
> As it stands today, the Skipnets transport miscellaneous bulletin 
> traffic to keep the system exercised. There is some personal 
> messaging, but there is a great deal of underutilized capacity for 
> more point-to-point messaging between amateurs.
> 
> No non-ham or 3rd-party traffic is transported by the Skipnets, but 
> ham-to-ham communications are definately encouraged.
> 
> A new HF network roughly modeled on the SkipNets is currently under 
> development, but the first servers will probably not appear for some 
> months yet. There are still numerous issues to resolve. In the mean-
> time, participation in the SkipNets are a good way to get up to speed 
> on the basic concepts behind a global, independent, all-ham radio 
> communications network.
> 
> Again, due to the hostility here, please take all comments and 
> questions off-list. Contact me personally at: n5...@uspacket.org
> 
> - Or stop by at http://www.uspacket.org where there is a forum.
> 
> 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
> 
> 

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RE: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Rud Merriam]

I'll have to agree with Russell that I have not seen hostility here toward
packet.
 
If I may offer some constructive criticism, not meant as an attack. When you
start a message with "what you have is nice but WE have..." you are likely
to engender a defensive reaction. 
 
Addressing the issue of packet, you certainly are aware that better
protocols exist for use on HF. That is one of the goals of ham radio to
experiment and develop new technologies. PSKMail is a very positive
illustration of this. They created one means of providing a messaging
capability that has evolved to utilize new capabilities as they became
available. The NBEMS is similarly positioned to lever new developments. 
 
Packet has technical shortcomings that have been addressed by other
protocols. Why not take advantage of the newer capabilities?
 
 - 73 - 
Rud Merriam K5RUD
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX 
http://TheHamNetwork.net <http://thehamnetwork.net/>  

-Original Message-
From: Charles Brabham [mailto:n5...@uspacket.org] 
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:45 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.




Group members will have to forgive a few members here who appear to harbor
some personal hostility regarding the SkipNets, and Packet radio in general.
To find out more about the SkipNets without getting flames stirred up here,
please contact me off-list for details.
 
As it stands today, the Skipnets transport miscellaneous bulletin traffic to
keep the system exercised. There is some personal messaging, but there is a
great deal of underutilized capacity for more point-to-point messaging
between amateurs.
 
No non-ham or 3rd-party traffic is transported by the Skipnets, but
ham-to-ham communications are definately encouraged.
 
A new HF network roughly modeled on the SkipNets is currently under
development, but the first servers will probably not appear for some months
yet. There are still numerous issues to resolve. In the mean-time,
participation in the SkipNets are a good way to get up to speed on the basic
concepts behind a global, independent, all-ham radio communications network.
 
Again, due to the hostility here, please take all comments and questions
off-list. Contact me personally at: n5...@uspacket.org
 
- Or stop by at http://www.uspacket.org where there is a forum.
 
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
 
 

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S. (Charles)

[Russell Blair]

Charles, I have joined the UsPacket.org as you requested, However unless there 
has been some e-mails sent to you off net I for one see no  hostility regarding 
the SkipNets. I for one was looking for information about the network because I 
had never heard of this network and if it came across to you as hostiliy I am 
sorry, it was not meant that way. I hope that each of the groups can work to 
make thing better.

Thanks Russell NC5O 

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called the PRESENT!





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--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Charles Brabham  wrote:

From: Charles Brabham 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:44 PM
















  
  


Group members will have to forgive a few 
members here who appear to harbor some personal hostility regarding 
the SkipNets, and Packet radio in general. To 
find out more about the SkipNets without getting flames stirred up here, 
please contact me off-list for details.
 
As it stands today, the Skipnets transport 
miscellaneous bulletin traffic to keep the system exercised. There is some 
personal messaging, but there is a great deal of underutilized capacity for 
more point-to-point messaging between amateurs.
 
No non-ham or 3rd-party traffic is transported by 
the Skipnets, but ham-to-ham communications are definately 
encouraged.
 
A new HF network roughly modeled on the SkipNets is 
currently under development, but the first servers will probably not appear for 
some months yet. There are still numerous issues to resolve. In the mean-time, 
participation in the SkipNets are a good way to get up to speed on the basic 
concepts behind a global, independent, all-ham radio communications 
network.
 
Again, due to the hostility here, please take all 
comments and questions off-list. Contact me personally at: n5...@uspacket. org
 
- Or stop by at http://www.uspacket .org where there is a 
forum.
 
73 DE Charles, N5PVL
 
 

 

  




 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Charles Brabham]

Group members will have to forgive a few members here who appear to harbor some 
personal hostility regarding the SkipNets, and Packet radio in general. To find 
out more about the SkipNets without getting flames stirred up here, please 
contact me off-list for details.

As it stands today, the Skipnets transport miscellaneous bulletin traffic to 
keep the system exercised. There is some personal messaging, but there is a 
great deal of underutilized capacity for more point-to-point messaging between 
amateurs.

No non-ham or 3rd-party traffic is transported by the Skipnets, but ham-to-ham 
communications are definately encouraged.

A new HF network roughly modeled on the SkipNets is currently under 
development, but the first servers will probably not appear for some months 
yet. There are still numerous issues to resolve. In the mean-time, 
participation in the SkipNets are a good way to get up to speed on the basic 
concepts behind a global, independent, all-ham radio communications network.

Again, due to the hostility here, please take all comments and questions 
off-list. Contact me personally at: n5...@uspacket.org

- Or stop by at http://www.uspacket.org where there is a forum.

73 DE Charles, N5PVL

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S. (Rick)

[Russell Blair]

Hi Rick, well I don't know how to get my server listed on that site, it up and 
working most of the day till about 9:00 PM my time. I have had a few 
connections  when I was on PSK125, it seem to woke fine, and band condition do 
change thing a lot, I can have the program change modes and bands. I was hoping 
to get some bulletin information added to the server but I have not worked on 
that yet, hope to soon. I was thinking if I could get to a point where if 
someone connect and needed the weather for say a city that just by inputing a 
zip code the server would look up the weather via the internet a and then send 
it out as part of a short message to the station that asked for it, but I'm no 
programmer just a button pusher. OK hope the bands get better for us all.

Russell NC5O  

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!





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  Skype-Russell.Blair

  Hell Field #300

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  30m Dig-group #693

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S. (Rick)
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 1:11 PM
















  
  Hi Russell,



Are there many other PSKmail stations on the air that are not being 

listed on the mailserver site?



http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/PSKmailserve rs



The only stations for the U.S. that are listed at the moment are:



WB5CON

KD5WDQ

KD4QCL



I think it was KD4WDQ that I have triggered a few times when doing a 

call up of the servers on 10148, but only WB5CON has been strong enough 

to actually connect to. It seems to take a pretty good signal to make 

this work well.



Do you find that the 250 baud rate works most of the time about as well 

as the 125 baud rate? Probably less affected by Doppler? But would be 

more affected by ISI multipsk?



Without having an automatically adjustable protocol, all the modes are a 

compromise much of the time. And the faster modes just can not connect 

when slower modes would work, even though very slow. But slow is better 

than zero throughput like we often had with 300 baud packet and why that 

mode never became usable unless you had a very stable MUF type of path. 

 From what I can tell, a lot of the Pactor 2 and 3 operation is done 

this way because 100 baud PSK is quite susceptible to ionospheric 

conditions we often have on HF.



73,



Rick, KV9U



Russell Blair wrote:

>

>

> Rick, Well I went to find the call of the other station close to you 

> and it was not on the list today I will keep a lookout for it, I have 

> seen you connect to Fred (WB5CON) at times, the band has not be too 

> good but if you would like for me to QSY to another band so you can 

> connect I would be glad just let me know. My server has been on 

> 10.148, was using PSK125 but now I'm using PSK250, it beacons avery 

> 20min starting at the top of the hour. My station antenna is a 

> Butternut so its not the best.

>

> Russell NC5O

>




 

  




 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Russell Blair]

Well I tried to look up for SkipNet as well and could not find much about it. 
Maybe Rein can find out some more about it, and if so PSKmail with SkipNet 
could work togeather and get a network of more servers on the air.

Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!





" IN GOD WE TRUST " 



Russell Blair (NC5O)

  Skype-Russell.Blair

  Hell Field #300

  DRCC #55

  30m Dig-group #693

--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 1:38 PM
















  
  I have to concur with Rein. The impression we have been given in the 

past is that Skipnet was a short term ARRL experiment under an FCC STA 

(Special Temporary Authorization) . Do a search on ARRL's web site to see 

the number of  references on anything current. My most recent search 

came up empty.



If there really is a network that can be accessed by individual hams, 

then one would expect the proponents to frequently mention the 

frequencies on the various bands, the method of access, any procedures 

to send messages, etc. Curious that this never happens.



What is important about PSKmail is the many features that are simply not 

available on any other system:



- it does not rely on 300 baud FSK packet and can use any modulation, 

including potentially future adaptable modes

- works with sound card technology and only a simple interface required

- moving toward cross platform with the addition of the javaPSKmail 

software with fldigi

- can set up ad hoc servers on short notice by anyone, not just those 

who operate a centralized system

- can operate on VHF as well as HF



And here is something that I just found out from Rein:



PSKmail can be set up as a closed system without any access to the 

internet, if you don't want it to have such access. It can act as a 

server for a local  or regional group, etc.



If possible, this discussion may be quite valuable on the group.



73,



Rick, KV9U



Rein Couperus wrote:

> I would gladly discuss with you how we can make the systems work together,

> with the ultimate goal to increase efficiency and service coverage of both...

>

> As I cannot find any usable information about SkipNet (other than the generic 
> definition of several 

> flavours of overlay networks with skipnet routing) I would be interested to 
> know 

> what you are actually doing in that area

>

> Pskmail is presently an internet or LAN access system for HF, i.e. it uses 

> existing internet infrastructure as a transport medium wherever possible, and 
> it provides 

> efficient 'last 3000 Miles' HF connectivity to various internet services like 
> email, web access, 

> twitter etc.+ fully compatible HF APRS messaging and posit beaconing.

> Pskmail servers are stateless, i.e they do not retain content, but provide 
> agents 

> to interface with internet services. As such I don't think you can compare it 
> to SkipNet functionality 

> (but I may be wrong here...)

>

> There are plans to add DTN functionalty to pskmail in future in order to 
> bypass the internet 

> transport in emergency situations, and I am fully open to any form of 
> suggestions. ..

>

> I propose we take this off list...

>

> 73,

>

> Rein PA0R

>

> rein at couperus dot com

>

>

>   




 

  




 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Rick W]

I have to concur with Rein. The impression we have been given in the 
past is that Skipnet was a short term ARRL experiment under an FCC STA 
(Special Temporary Authorization). Do a search on ARRL's web site to see 
the number of  references on anything current. My most recent search 
came up empty.

If there really is a network that can be accessed by individual hams, 
then one would expect the proponents to frequently mention the 
frequencies on the various bands, the method of access, any procedures 
to send messages, etc. Curious that this never happens.

What is important about PSKmail is the many features that are simply not 
available on any other system:

- it does not rely on 300 baud FSK packet and can use any modulation, 
including potentially future adaptable modes
- works with sound card technology and only a simple interface required
- moving toward cross platform with the addition of the javaPSKmail 
software with fldigi
- can set up ad hoc servers on short notice by anyone, not just those 
who operate a centralized system
- can operate on VHF as well as HF

And here is something that I just found out from Rein:

PSKmail can be set up as a closed system without any access to the 
internet, if you don't want it to have such access. It can act as a 
server for a local  or regional group, etc.

If possible, this discussion may be quite valuable on the group.

73,

Rick, KV9U





Rein Couperus wrote:
> I would gladly discuss with you how we can make the systems work together,
> with the ultimate goal to increase efficiency and service coverage of both...
>
> As I cannot find any usable information about SkipNet (other than the generic 
> definition of several 
> flavours of overlay networks with skipnet routing) I would be interested to 
> know 
> what you are actually doing in that area
>
> Pskmail is presently an internet or LAN access system for HF, i.e. it uses 
> existing internet infrastructure as a transport medium wherever possible, and 
> it provides 
> efficient 'last 3000 Miles' HF connectivity to various internet services like 
> email, web access, 
> twitter etc.+ fully compatible HF APRS messaging and posit beaconing.
> Pskmail servers are stateless, i.e they do not retain content, but provide 
> agents 
> to interface with internet services. As such I don't think you can compare it 
> to SkipNet functionality 
> (but I may be wrong here...)
>
> There are plans to add DTN functionalty to pskmail in future in order to 
> bypass the internet 
> transport in emergency situations, and I am fully open to any form of 
> suggestions...
>
> I propose we take this off list...
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
> rein at couperus dot com
>
>
>   

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S. (Rick)

[Rick W]

Hi Russell,

Are there many other PSKmail stations on the air that are not being 
listed on the mailserver site?

http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers

The only stations for the U.S. that are listed at the moment are:

WB5CON
KD5WDQ
KD4QCL

I think it was KD4WDQ that I have triggered a few times when doing a 
call up of the servers on 10148, but only WB5CON has been strong enough 
to actually connect to. It seems to take a pretty good signal to make 
this work well.

Do you find that the 250 baud rate works most of the time about as well 
as the 125 baud rate? Probably less affected by Doppler? But would be 
more affected by ISI multipsk?

Without having an automatically adjustable protocol, all the modes are a 
compromise much of the time. And the faster modes just can not connect 
when slower modes would work, even though very slow. But slow is better 
than zero throughput like we often had with 300 baud packet and why that 
mode never became usable unless you had a very stable MUF type of path. 
 From what I can tell, a lot of the Pactor 2 and 3 operation is done 
this way because 100 baud PSK is quite susceptible to ionospheric 
conditions we often have on HF.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Russell Blair wrote:
>
>
> Rick, Well I went to find the call of the other station close to you 
> and it was not on the list today I will keep a lookout for it, I have 
> seen you connect to Fred (WB5CON) at times, the band has not be too 
> good but if you would like for me to QSY to another band so you can 
> connect I would be glad just let me know. My server has been on 
> 10.148, was using PSK125 but now I'm using PSK250, it beacons avery 
> 20min starting at the top of the hour. My station antenna is a 
> Butternut so its not the best.
>
> Russell NC5O
>

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S. (Rick)

[Russell Blair]

Rick, Well I went to find the call of the other station close to you and it was 
not on the list today I will keep a lookout for it, I have seen you connect to 
Fred (WB5CON) at times, the band has not be too good but if you would like for 
me to QSY to another band so you can connect I would be glad just let me know. 
My server has been on 10.148, was using PSK125 but now I'm using PSK250, it 
beacons avery 20min starting at the top of the hour. My station antenna is a 
Butternut so its not the best.

Russell NC5O

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called the PRESENT!





" IN GOD WE TRUST " 



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  Skype-Russell.Blair

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--- On Sat, 5/16/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 8:16 PM
















  
  Russell,



Where is the Wisconsin one located? I live in SW Wisconsin, but my 

understanding is that there are 3 PSKmail stations listed as active in 

the U.S.,? At least on the 10.148 frequency. The main one I can 

sometimes reach is WB5CON in Mississiippi, but not easy to do on a 

consistent basis. What we need are many more stations on different 

bands. Especially would like to see some NVIS stations on 80 meters. 

Could even have VHF stations as there is at least one in a large city, 

but outside the U.S.



Is anyone considering becoming a server station? If the Windows client 

gets PSKmail chat, we would be able to have both e-mail and peer to peer 

messaging using ARQ and could use on VHF as well as HF. That is not 

available with any other system, much less a completely open system 

fully GPL'ed. This is the only decentralized system that I am aware of 

that can do all these things.



73,



Rick, KV9U



Russell Blair wrote:

> I was taking a count today of Pskmail Servers in the U.S. and there are four 
> 1 in Mississippi, 2 in Texas, 1 in Va, 1 in WI, and one in western Canada. 
> Hopefully there will be more users as time goes on and the word gets out and 
> more people start getting out and needing to use the mail servers.

>

> Russell NC5O

>

>   




 

  




 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Russell Blair]

Thanks Rein, I was hopeing you would step up to this. Thanks
 
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--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Rein Couperus  wrote:

> From: Rein Couperus 
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 7:39 AM
> I would gladly discuss with you how
> we can make the systems work together,
> with the ultimate goal to increase efficiency and service
> coverage of both...
> 
> As I cannot find any usable information about SkipNet
> (other than the generic definition of several 
> flavours of overlay networks with skipnet routing) I would
> be interested to know 
> what you are actually doing in that area
> 
> Pskmail is presently an internet or LAN access system for
> HF, i.e. it uses 
> existing internet infrastructure as a transport medium
> wherever possible, and it provides 
> efficient 'last 3000 Miles' HF connectivity to various
> internet services like email, web access, 
> twitter etc.+ fully compatible HF APRS messaging and posit
> beaconing.
> Pskmail servers are stateless, i.e they do not retain
> content, but provide agents 
> to interface with internet services. As such I don't think
> you can compare it to SkipNet functionality 
> (but I may be wrong here...)
> 
> There are plans to add DTN functionalty to pskmail in
> future in order to bypass the internet 
> transport in emergency situations, and I am fully open to
> any form of suggestions...
> 
> I propose we take this off list...
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rein PA0R
> 
> rein at couperus dot com
> 
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: "Charles Brabham" 
> > Gesendet: 17.05.09 13:43:30
> > An: 
> > Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.
> 
> 
> > Nine or so Pskmail servers in the continental US?
> That's a good start,
> > but I will remind the group that the Packet ( SkipNet
> ) network has 
> > more servers than that on just one of several
> frequencies where we 
> > operate every day.
> > 
> > No eMail is carried by the Packet network, which I
> consider to be a 
> > plus. On the other hand, the SkipNet carries
> peer-to-peer messaging 
> > at a much higher speed than Pskmail can, with greater
> spectral 
> > efficiency.
> > 
> > I've looked at Pskmail and am impressed, it is an
> excellent system. 
> > It is unfortunate that Packet is ignored or dissed
> here though, for 
> > no rational reason. Packet works just as well, and in
> some respects 
> > it works much better. 
> > 
> > One area where Packet is more fuctional is in the
> number of areas 
> > served. There are a good deal more SkipNet stations on
> the air every 
> > day, serving a greater variety of locations.
> > 
> > Contrary to popularly expressed belief, HF Packet is a
> solid 
> > performer on the air. To illustrate, note that my
> station located at 
> > the southern tip of Texas exchanges messages every day
> with another 
> > SkipNet station located 25 miles in from the Canadian
> border, and has 
> > routinely done so throughout the solar minimum.
> > 
> > Is it smart to develop and utilize the Pskmail
> network? - Yes, most 
> > definately!
> > 
> > Is it smart to dis and ignore the SkipNet which is
> faster, serves 
> > many more locations and is more spectrally efficient?
> - I'll leave 
> > that for the reader to consider.
> > 
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> > 
> > 
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Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Rein Couperus]

I would gladly discuss with you how we can make the systems work together,
with the ultimate goal to increase efficiency and service coverage of both...

As I cannot find any usable information about SkipNet (other than the generic 
definition of several 
flavours of overlay networks with skipnet routing) I would be interested to 
know 
what you are actually doing in that area

Pskmail is presently an internet or LAN access system for HF, i.e. it uses 
existing internet infrastructure as a transport medium wherever possible, and 
it provides 
efficient 'last 3000 Miles' HF connectivity to various internet services like 
email, web access, 
twitter etc.+ fully compatible HF APRS messaging and posit beaconing.
Pskmail servers are stateless, i.e they do not retain content, but provide 
agents 
to interface with internet services. As such I don't think you can compare it 
to SkipNet functionality 
(but I may be wrong here...)

There are plans to add DTN functionalty to pskmail in future in order to bypass 
the internet 
transport in emergency situations, and I am fully open to any form of 
suggestions...

I propose we take this off list...

73,

Rein PA0R

rein at couperus dot com


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Charles Brabham" 
> Gesendet: 17.05.09 13:43:30
> An: 
> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.


> Nine or so Pskmail servers in the continental US? That's a good start,
> but I will remind the group that the Packet ( SkipNet ) network has 
> more servers than that on just one of several frequencies where we 
> operate every day.
> 
> No eMail is carried by the Packet network, which I consider to be a 
> plus. On the other hand, the SkipNet carries peer-to-peer messaging 
> at a much higher speed than Pskmail can, with greater spectral 
> efficiency.
> 
> I've looked at Pskmail and am impressed, it is an excellent system. 
> It is unfortunate that Packet is ignored or dissed here though, for 
> no rational reason. Packet works just as well, and in some respects 
> it works much better. 
> 
> One area where Packet is more fuctional is in the number of areas 
> served. There are a good deal more SkipNet stations on the air every 
> day, serving a greater variety of locations.
> 
> Contrary to popularly expressed belief, HF Packet is a solid 
> performer on the air. To illustrate, note that my station located at 
> the southern tip of Texas exchanges messages every day with another 
> SkipNet station located 25 miles in from the Canadian border, and has 
> routinely done so throughout the solar minimum.
> 
> Is it smart to develop and utilize the Pskmail network? - Yes, most 
> definately!
> 
> Is it smart to dis and ignore the SkipNet which is faster, serves 
> many more locations and is more spectrally efficient? - I'll leave 
> that for the reader to consider.
> 
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> 
> 

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Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Charles Brabham]

Nine or so Pskmail servers in the continental US? That's a good start, but I 
will remind the group that the Packet ( SkipNet ) network has more servers than 
that on just one of several frequencies where we operate every day.

No eMail is carried by the Packet network, which I consider to be a plus. On 
the other hand, the SkipNet carries peer-to-peer messaging at a much higher 
speed than Pskmail can, with greater spectral efficiency.

I've looked at Pskmail and am impressed, it is an excellent system. It is 
unfortunate that Packet is ignored or dissed here though, for no rational 
reason. Packet works just as well, and in some respects it works much better. 

One area where Packet is more fuctional is in the number of areas served. There 
are a good deal more SkipNet stations on the air every day, serving a greater 
variety of locations.

Contrary to popularly expressed belief, HF Packet is a solid performer on the 
air. To illustrate, note that my station located at the southern tip of Texas 
exchanges messages every day with another SkipNet station located 25 miles in 
from the Canadian border, and has routinely done so throughout the solar 
minimum.

Is it smart to develop and utilize the Pskmail network? - Yes, most definately!

Is it smart to dis and ignore the SkipNet which is faster, serves many more 
locations and is more spectrally efficient? - I'll leave that for the reader to 
consider.

73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Rick W]

Russell,

Where is the Wisconsin one located? I live in SW Wisconsin, but my 
understanding is that there are 3 PSKmail stations listed as active in 
the U.S.,? At least on the 10.148 frequency. The main one I can 
sometimes reach is WB5CON in Mississiippi, but not easy to do on a 
consistent basis. What we need are many more stations on different 
bands. Especially would like to see some NVIS stations on 80 meters. 
Could even have VHF stations as there is at least one in a large city, 
but outside the U.S.

Is anyone considering becoming a server station? If the Windows client 
gets PSKmail chat, we would be able to have both e-mail and peer to peer 
messaging using ARQ and could use on VHF as well as HF. That is not 
available with any other system, much less a completely open system 
fully GPL'ed. This is the only decentralized system that I am aware of 
that can do all these things.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Russell Blair wrote:
> I was taking a count today of Pskmail Servers in the U.S. and there are four 
> 1 in Mississippi, 2 in Texas, 1 in Va, 1 in WI, and one in western Canada. 
> Hopefully there will be more users as time goes on and the word gets out and 
> more people start getting out and needing to use the mail servers.
>
> Russell NC5O
>
>   

[digitalradio] Pskmail Server in U.S.

[Russell Blair]

I was taking a count today of Pskmail Servers in the U.S. and there are four 1 
in Mississippi, 2 in Texas, 1 in Va, 1 in WI, and one in western Canada. 
Hopefully there will be more users as time goes on and the word gets out and 
more people start getting out and needing to use the mail servers.

Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693