Re: [digitalradio] Propagation: 20M all day now with digital modes?

2009-05-18 Thread Tony
Andy, 

 With a slight improvement in the solar flux numbers and the longer periods of 
 sunlight
 in the northern hemisphere, I wonder if we are at the point that 24 hour per 
 day will be 
 common using the robust weak signal digital modes?

I think you have it right Andy. Ionospheric models show that the 20 meter band 
stays open much longer in summer than in winter, especially for locations 
within the northern hemisphere. A few paths come close to being open for 16 
hours or more. 

The predictions also say that this happens regardless of where we are in the 
solar cycle and it all seems to correspond well with on-air experience. 

It seems logical since the summertime ionosphere is exposed to more direct 
sunlight for much longer periods of time. The polar ionosphere would seem to 
benefit most from summertime illumination.  

It seems possible that a slight variation in the 10.7cm solar flux could have 
some influence on propagation, but I would imagine it's much less significant 
compared to the seasonal changes. I've learned that it doesn't always go 
hand-in-hand with conditions and is often misleading...  

Quoting Robert Brown (NM7M) ...   

the 10.7 cm. flux has its purpose, indicating the presence of active regions, 
and it is a mistake to think that changes in that flux are always associated 
directly with the state of our ionosphere.


 I have been able to work Europe on low power with a vertical as early as 0800 
 hrs, in the past  month Europe did not usually open until around 1200 UTC. 

That's a near perfect match to VOACAP's NY-EU predictions. The predicted 20 
meter band openings start around 12:00Z in January and they slowly creep up to 
08:00Z in May.  

 I have been heard in North Carolina at 0730 hrs UTC  the past couple of 
 mornings using 
 JT65A

Could be residual F-region ionization left over from the daylight hours - 
possibly Sporadic-E. 

  easy QSO conditions with ZL2BLQ on 20M (CW) around 0200 UTC

Nice one Andy - the time coincides with VOACAP. The band is supposed to peak 
between 0200 and 0400z. 


Tony -K2MO



- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:14 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Propagation: 20M all day now with digital modes?


 With a slight improvement in the solar flux numbers and the longer
 periods of sunlight in the northern hemisphere, I wonder if we are at
 the point that 24 hour per day will be common using the robust weak
 signal digital modes?  With SF=74 and A=0 K=2 the last 2 days, I have
 noted that I have been able to work Europe on low power with a
 vertical as early as 0800 hrs, in the past month Europe did not
 usually open until around 1200 UTC.  Also, I have been heard in North
 Carolina at 0730 hrs UTC  the past couple of mornings using JT65A.  I
 have had easy QSO conditions with ZL2BLQ on 20M (CW) around 0200 UTC.
 
 
 VE3ODZ-1 (FN03ha) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.14 KHz -15dB at 08:06:00Z
 using JT65A
 
 WD4ELG (FM06kb) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.20 KHz -13dB at 08:06Z using JT65A
 Andy K3UK



[digitalradio] Propagation: 20M all day now with digital modes?

2009-05-17 Thread Andy obrien
With a slight improvement in the solar flux numbers and the longer
periods of sunlight in the northern hemisphere, I wonder if we are at
the point that 24 hour per day will be common using the robust weak
signal digital modes?  With SF=74 and A=0 K=2 the last 2 days, I have
noted that I have been able to work Europe on low power with a
vertical as early as 0800 hrs, in the past month Europe did not
usually open until around 1200 UTC.  Also, I have been heard in North
Carolina at 0730 hrs UTC  the past couple of mornings using JT65A.  I
have had easy QSO conditions with ZL2BLQ on 20M (CW) around 0200 UTC.


VE3ODZ-1 (FN03ha) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.14 KHz -15dB at 08:06:00Z
using JT65A

WD4ELG (FM06kb) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.20 KHz -13dB at 08:06Z using JT65A
Andy K3UK


RE: [digitalradio] Propagation: 20M all day now with digital modes?

2009-05-17 Thread John Bradley
Have copied PSK stations on 20M from South America, Mexico, and the US to
0500Z and later the last few nights, have seen folks working

ZL/VK but have not copied them very well here.

 

20M has much improved over the past couple of weeks

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy obrien
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:14 AM
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Subject: [digitalradio] Propagation: 20M all day now with digital modes?

 






With a slight improvement in the solar flux numbers and the longer
periods of sunlight in the northern hemisphere, I wonder if we are at
the point that 24 hour per day will be common using the robust weak
signal digital modes? With SF=74 and A=0 K=2 the last 2 days, I have
noted that I have been able to work Europe on low power with a
vertical as early as 0800 hrs, in the past month Europe did not
usually open until around 1200 UTC. Also, I have been heard in North
Carolina at 0730 hrs UTC the past couple of mornings using JT65A. I
have had easy QSO conditions with ZL2BLQ on 20M (CW) around 0200 UTC.

VE3ODZ-1 (FN03ha) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.14 KHz -15dB at 08:06:00Z
using JT65A

WD4ELG (FM06kb) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 14076.20 KHz -13dB at 08:06Z using JT65A
Andy K3UK