Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-24 Thread kd5nwa
Thanks, that site has all sorts of ham software a lot of it for 
Linux/Windows. Digital modes is something I have not tried before and 
I want to get involve so this will help a lot, I mostly run Linux myself.

I use Puppy Linux on a old laptop for it's speed and also to rescue 
data from PC's that will not boot.

At 11:13 PM 2/23/2007, you wrote:
>I downloaded the live flPuppy 
>Live-CD today with fldigi 3.0 built-in and have been playing around 
>a bit with it and I am impressed. With everyting in RAM it is sure 
>fast. I saved everything and will see if all is restored when I boot 
>the computer again.
>
>Darrel
>VE7CUS
>
>On 22-Feb-07, at 10:42 AM, kd4e wrote:
>
>>What Linux app would you recommend that offers DominoEX,
>>especially DEX11 = -12 and DEX22 = -9 with and without FEC?
>>
>>I am in the midst of a major reorganization of my radio
>>room and may dedicate a Kenwood TS-180 to digital modes,
>>including DominoEX and also sstv, dsstv, PSK31, etc ...
>>seems there are new digital modes or updates to existing
>>ones every week!
>>
>>I need to find an affordable older laptop and run the
>>tiny Puppy Linux OS with digital modes on it. Possibly
>>an older IBM 600-series as they are very reliable and
>>lots of parts are available. Whatever I can be sure
>>will be natively compatible with Linux and will run
>>directly (if not charge the internal battery) on 12vdc.
>>
>>WDYT?
>>
>> > It does seem that DEX22/FEC works better than DEX11 without FEC in
>> > many cases even though the throughput speed is about the same.
>> > However, under weak signal condx, I suspect that DEX11 wihout FEC
>> > would work deeper into the noise. As I am finding out on many HF
>> > circuits, the ability to handle the vagaries of the ionosphere is
>> > often more important than the raw ability to handle AWGN.
>> >
>> > I did think that MT-63 would do better than DEX11/FEC and DEX22/FEC,
>> > but it was much worse during the 160 meter test. Signal strengths
>> > were generally quite good though and QRN was not too bad considering
>> > the time of year here in the northern hemisphere. It will be most
>> > interesting to see what happens this summer with static crashes. It
>> > just seemed like DEX was able to handle static crashes better than
>> > other non-ARQ modes.
>> >
>> > 73, Rick, KV9U
>>
>>--
>>
>>Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
>>~~
>>Projects: 
>>http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com
>>Personal: http://bibleseven.com
>>~~
>
>


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KD5NWA
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'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then 
beat you with experience.'  



Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-23 Thread Darrel Smith
I downloaded the live flPuppy Live-CD today with fldigi 3.0 built-in  
and have been playing around a bit with it and I am impressed. With  
everyting in RAM it is sure fast. I saved everything and will see if  
all is restored when I boot the computer again.


Darrel
VE7CUS

On 22-Feb-07, at 10:42 AM, kd4e wrote:


What Linux app would you recommend that offers DominoEX,
especially DEX11 = -12 and DEX22 = -9 with and without FEC?

I am in the midst of a major reorganization of my radio
room and may dedicate a Kenwood TS-180 to digital modes,
including DominoEX and also sstv, dsstv, PSK31, etc ...
seems there are new digital modes or updates to existing
ones every week!

I need to find an affordable older laptop and run the
tiny Puppy Linux OS with digital modes on it. Possibly
an older IBM 600-series as they are very reliable and
lots of parts are available. Whatever I can be sure
will be natively compatible with Linux and will run
directly (if not charge the internal battery) on 12vdc.

WDYT?

> It does seem that DEX22/FEC works better than DEX11 without FEC in
> many cases even though the throughput speed is about the same.
> However, under weak signal condx, I suspect that DEX11 wihout FEC
> would work deeper into the noise. As I am finding out on many HF
> circuits, the ability to handle the vagaries of the ionosphere is
> often more important than the raw ability to handle AWGN.
>
> I did think that MT-63 would do better than DEX11/FEC and DEX22/FEC,
> but it was much worse during the 160 meter test. Signal strengths
> were generally quite good though and QRN was not too bad considering
> the time of year here in the northern hemisphere. It will be most
> interesting to see what happens this summer with static crashes. It
> just seemed like DEX was able to handle static crashes better than
> other non-ARQ modes.
>
> 73, Rick, KV9U

--

Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
~~
Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com
Personal: http://bibleseven.com
~~






Re: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-23 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
The W1HKJ version of gMFSK supports the Domino modes, as well
as MT-63 (which fldigi omits - at least the version I've got),

73,

Paul / K9PS

Bill McLaughlin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I *have* to use HP-UX at work so I avoid it and anything that reminds 
> me of it at home; but think your only real choice would be Fldigi
> 
> See http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
> 
> Others that use Unix/Linux might offer other options...
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill N9DSJ
> 
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What Linux app would you recommend that offers DominoEX,
>> especially DEX11 = -12 and DEX22 =  -9 with and without FEC?
>>


[digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-23 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi,

I *have* to use HP-UX at work so I avoid it and anything that reminds 
me of it at home; but think your only real choice would be Fldigi

See http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html

Others that use Unix/Linux might offer other options...

73,

Bill N9DSJ


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What Linux app would you recommend that offers DominoEX,
> especially DEX11 = -12 and DEX22 =  -9 with and without FEC?
> 
> I am in the midst of a major reorganization of my radio
> room and may dedicate a Kenwood TS-180 to digital modes,
> including DominoEX and also sstv, dsstv, PSK31, etc ...
> seems there are new digital modes or updates to existing
> ones every week!
> 
> I need to find an affordable older laptop and run the
> tiny Puppy Linux OS with digital modes on it. Possibly
> an older IBM 600-series as they are very reliable and
> lots of parts are available.  Whatever I can be sure
> will be natively compatible with Linux and will run
> directly (if not charge the internal battery) on 12vdc.
> 
> WDYT?




[digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63 -- Linux Version?

2007-02-23 Thread kd4e
What Linux app would you recommend that offers DominoEX,
especially DEX11 = -12 and DEX22 =  -9 with and without FEC?

I am in the midst of a major reorganization of my radio
room and may dedicate a Kenwood TS-180 to digital modes,
including DominoEX and also sstv, dsstv, PSK31, etc ...
seems there are new digital modes or updates to existing
ones every week!

I need to find an affordable older laptop and run the
tiny Puppy Linux OS with digital modes on it. Possibly
an older IBM 600-series as they are very reliable and
lots of parts are available.  Whatever I can be sure
will be natively compatible with Linux and will run
directly (if not charge the internal battery) on 12vdc.

WDYT?

> It does seem that DEX22/FEC works better than DEX11 without FEC in
> many cases even though the throughput speed is about the same.
> However, under weak signal condx, I suspect that DEX11 wihout FEC
> would work deeper into the noise. As I am finding out on many HF
> circuits, the ability to handle the vagaries of the ionosphere is
> often more important than the raw ability to handle AWGN.
> 
> I did think that MT-63 would do better than DEX11/FEC and DEX22/FEC,
> but it was much worse during the 160 meter test. Signal strengths
> were generally quite good though and QRN was not too bad considering
> the time of year here in the northern hemisphere. It will be most
> interesting to see what happens this summer with static crashes. It
> just seemed like DEX was able to handle static crashes better than
> other non-ARQ modes.
> 
> 73,  Rick, KV9U


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Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E
~~
Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com
Personal: http://bibleseven.com
~~