[digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
The idea that everyone should artificially be given an equal opportunity in a competitive environment that is ruled by the laws of physics is absurd. People need to remember that there are some things that not everyone is capable of doing and that their exclusion from those endeavors serves a valid purpose. Evidently the demand for unearned self-esteem is not only an American problem. 73 de Dave, NF2G
[digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Wikipedia: Discriminatory behaviors take many forms, but they all involve some form of exclusion or rejection.^[ #cite_note-0 As a social scientist, I must point out that Wikipedia's definition as quoted is incomplete. Discrimination is about differentiating among options based on some criteria. When the criteria are invalid, discrimination becomes an anti social behavior. Discrimination is not fundamentally evil. It is a necessary part of survival. One does not include poisonous berries into one's diet simply because failing to do so is immoral in some way. Nor does one include dangerous people into one's social circle (normally) as self interest in personal survival supercedes such flexibility. Nobody forces QRP stations to be uncompetitive in a QRO environment. That is nature, which also discriminates all the time, a phenomenon for which we should be grateful. 73 de Dave, NF2G
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk Digital_modes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: DaveNF2G To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic The idea that everyone should artificially be given an equal opportunity in a competitive environment that is ruled by the laws of physics is absurd. People need to remember that there are some things that not everyone is capable of doing and that their exclusion from those endeavors serves a valid purpose. Evidently the demand for unearned self-esteem is not only an American problem. 73 de Dave, NF2G
AW: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
100% agree dave .. very well written . My spezial contest without points or any ranking is :cracking a pile-up with my 100w barefoot icom and A wire antenna in my backyard .. that is a test for my personal skill . Listen listen listen with switching vfo a and b . Find out where the dx station is listening and get trough That is what I like to do . With a gallon and a 6 element monobander it is easy . With barefoot and a wire you can do this if you find out where the dx is listening Best 73´s Dg9bfc Sigi _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von DANNY DOUGLAS Gesendet: Freitag, 27. November 2009 16:33 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic The big factor in ham radio contesting is MONEY. If you have a lot, you can virtually buy your way into the big boys club (in fact - that is what makes one a big boy). That leads to the very large array type contest stations. Of course, they are going to win out every time ove the guy sitting at home with 100 watts, and dipoles, and even those with a kw and/or a 100 ft tower and 6 element multi banders. And before anyone starts yelling SKILL SKILL SKILL, at me; think on this. Two people, with who wind up on the same calling freq, at the exact same time, call the DX. They live across town from each other, and the propagation cloud favors each other the exact same way. Nw - who is going to get thru first? First will be the guy who has the better antenna? Or the person with the higher power? Yes- voice can and does have some input here, and the one who has a better radio voice, has the best chance. Lets say one is a YL, and one a deep husked OM. You know who will make it first in that case. But lets say they are twins, and not only use the same radio, but the same mike. Now who will get thru? How often will such take place? Not at all likely,for sure, but if one has 6 elements at 100 feet, and the other 3 elements at 30 feet,you can bet the one with the higher antenna will get thru first , 99 percent of the time. So, again it comes out to money. So what does all this mean? Those who are really equal in equiptment/location etc. really do have an equal opportunity in the test. Those who have lesser equipment, must then depend more on their skills, in order to compete. Yes - their are different levels of competition, and those with 100 watts and a diipole can and do get in the contests, and sometimes even win - as long asthe competionis others within the same equipment constraints. But, given just a handfull of stations running the same 100 watts, but with a multitude of very tall towers, then the former might as well take down and pack their shingles, as far as putting paper on the wall goes. The very best time Ive seen, contest wise, was my first and only Novice Roundup. Limited to 70 watts input, we didnt have power stations in there competing. And, yes, some did have better antennas than others, but the vast majority were just younger guys, with no money to speak of, and who had thrown up homebrew wire dipoles. Ones skill and wile really did make all the difference in the world. TheWorld Radio Championships of today are sort of that same way. Each pair of contesters, assigned a station with similar antennas, power, and location: competes only against others of the same class. The winners? Those who prove themselves to be the better tacticians and on-air operators! That is real contesting. Any of us can be invited to a multi-multi big boy station, and sit there our apponted hour or so at a time, and yell into a microphone, hooked to a rig (set on one freq the whole test), running into a KW max output, run to a 4-7 element single bander and score point after point after point. Now lets dont take this wrong, many, and probably most, of those operators are indeed the top cream of the crop , and that is why they have been invited there in the first place- having proven themselves in their own stations as top notch contesters, over the years. They are given the leeway to change freqs as necessary, according to props, and to start searching when their thruput numbers start to drop, etc. So, their actual radio skills do come forward at that time. Of course here, we are talking of SSB ops. The CW world is a whole other thing. Contest stations dont invite the slow and unskilled to participatein those stations, during a contest.Those operators are indeed picked from the already skilled. But to get back to the equal opportunity that the rest of us face, its pretty not much there anymore, unless you have the money to make your station better than everyone elses, there is NO equal opportunity for you, and doing that no longer gives the other an equal opportunity competing with you. Self esteem come from what you do, with what you have. There appear to be more and more
[digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
I am interested in setting up a QRP station running DominoEX 11. I have a Microsoft XP operating system. What I need is a help Pal to walk me through getting the program down loaded and running. I am not interested in using a program that runs a dozen different digi programs if it is possible to just load and run DominoEX by itself. I expect what I'm interested in is not something the majority on this list would be, never know tho. My email address is w9ifz dot yahoo dot com Sugggestions - link references appreciated. Thanks Stan AK0B
[digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . I'm a Republican :) Rick - KH2DF Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
DaveNF2G wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic? It's a competition, not a debate. The democratic in context of contest is synonym. The question: Can the QRP-power ham take part from rtty contest and how? If NO, then the contest from QRP viewpoint discrimination. Wikipedia: Discriminatory behaviors take many forms, but they all involve some form of exclusion or rejection.^[ #cite_note-0 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp 73 de Dave, NF2G
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Rick Westerfield wrote: Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . _I'm a Republican :)_ Rick - KH2DF Rick, is this something genetic? :) 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.com mailto:d...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G -- Kirjutas ja tervitab Jaak Hohensee
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Probably. It runs in my family. We are all genetic together :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Jaak Hohensee jaak.hohen...@eesti.ee wrote: Rick Westerfield wrote: Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . I'm a Republican :) Rick - KH2DF Rick, is this something genetic? :) 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G -- Kirjutas ja tervitab Jaak Hohensee
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
For my 2 bits worth it might be better to split the contest in half first part is RTTY and the last part in ? mode, Why it might help in dupeing or is thier a program that can dupe by call and mode. For RTTY and PSK modes I have been using N1MM, need to find a logging program that can dupe via mode as well as call. I just like to contest on digital modes. Not much on SSB or CW myself. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 From: Rick Westerfield r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 9:03:58 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic Probably. It runs in my family. We are all genetic together :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Jaak Hohensee jaak.hohensee@ eesti.ee wrote: Rick Westerfield wrote: Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . I'm a Republican :) Rick - KH2DF Rick, is this something genetic? :) 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic ? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G -- Kirjutas ja tervitab Jaak Hohensee
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Hi, i downloaded some hours ago FLDIGI but can´t tx. I have a yaesu ft 747 without cat. 73 Claudio-LU2VC 2009/11/26 Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com For my 2 bits worth it might be better to split the contest in half first part is RTTY and the last part in ? mode, Why it might help in dupeing or is thier a program that can dupe by call and mode. For RTTY and PSK modes I have been using N1MM, need to find a logging program that can dupe via mode as well as call. I just like to contest on digital modes. Not much on SSB or CW myself. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 -- *From:* Rick Westerfield r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, November 26, 2009 9:03:58 AM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic Probably. It runs in my family. We are all genetic together :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Jaak Hohensee jaak.hohensee@ eesti.eejaak.hohen...@eesti.ee wrote: Rick Westerfield wrote: Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . *I'm a Republican :)* Rick - KH2DF Rick, is this something genetic? :) 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.comd...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic ? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G -- Kirjutas ja tervitab Jaak Hohensee
Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic
Did you check Configure/Rig Control/Hardware PTT? philw de ka1gmn On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Claudio toa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i downloaded some hours ago FLDIGI but can´t tx. I have a yaesu ft 747 without cat. 73 Claudio-LU2VC 2009/11/26 Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com For my 2 bits worth it might be better to split the contest in half first part is RTTY and the last part in ? mode, Why it might help in dupeing or is thier a program that can dupe by call and mode. For RTTY and PSK modes I have been using N1MM, need to find a logging program that can dupe via mode as well as call. I just like to contest on digital modes. Not much on SSB or CW myself. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 -- *From:* Rick Westerfield r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, November 26, 2009 9:03:58 AM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: DominoEX 11 is more democratic Probably. It runs in my family. We are all genetic together :) Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Jaak Hohensee jaak.hohensee@ eesti.eejaak.hohen...@eesti.ee wrote: Rick Westerfield wrote: Now I understand why Domino never caught on much with me . . . *I'm a Republican :)* Rick - KH2DF Rick, is this something genetic? :) 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:47 AM, DaveNF2G d...@nf2g.comd...@nf2g.com wrote: Since when is contesting supposed to be democratic ? It's a competition, not a debate. 73 de Dave, NF2G -- Kirjutas ja tervitab Jaak Hohensee
