Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters-- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Paul and all,

You can found in my WEB site a paper (RS_ID_English.DOC file) which title is 
Digimode identifiers and which describes mainly Video ID and RS ID. Paste 
http://f6cte.free.fr/PAPERS.ZIP in your Internet Explorer or equivalent. 
Download the ZIP file and extract RS_ID_English.DOC.

73
Patrick


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jose A. Amador 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth 
parameters-- an idea



  Paul,

  Some programs are capable of sending a Video ID using Hell, so, you 
  can read the ID as a text preamble from the waterfall.

  MultiPSK also does send a RS ID using some codes sent as an MFSK 
  preamble. FDMDV now does use the RS ID too, to help zero beating on 
  the spectrum center.

  73,

  Jose, CO2JA

  --

  Paul wrote:

   I think I missed the memo on how to ...display that code as text...
   
   Are you suggesting calling CQ in a different digital mode than Qlivia,
   then switching over? If the listener can read the (Olivia) Text
   then they are already reading at the proper BW/Tone??
   73,
   Paul
   
   
   If we allocate a code for each 
   tone/bandwidth combination, and display that code as text in the 
   waterfall immediately before transmitting the Olivia signal, it will 



   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Rick W.
I seem to recall that the waterfall image (fax) has been available for 
some time with the digital image/data programs, e.g., WinDRM, and 
perhaps it was later adopted into some of the sound card programs?

ARRL considers the mode to be digital J2D when sent as a sound card mode 
modulating an SSB transmitter.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Ian Wade wrote:

 That's exactly what I had in mind, but instead of sending text such as 
 callsigns, you send some helpful information. It blew my mind away too 
 the first time I saw it -- or, rather, the first time I heard it!

   



[digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Paul
Oops, I should have read the rest of the posts first. Video ID - got
it. I'll understand it more when I first see it.
Thank you and 73,
Pau

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jose,
 But does that mean you need to be listening in Hell mode? Or does it
 display on the waterfall regardless of the chosen mode?
 Paul
 
  
  Paul,
  
  Some programs are capable of sending a Video ID using Hell, so, you 
  can read the ID as a text preamble from the waterfall.
 





[digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Paul
Jose,
But does that mean you need to be listening in Hell mode? Or does it
display on the waterfall regardless of the chosen mode?
Paul

 
 Paul,
 
 Some programs are capable of sending a Video ID using Hell, so, you 
 can read the ID as a text preamble from the waterfall.




Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-02 Thread Jose A. Amador

No, not at all. Just watching the waterfall. I do not remember the 
little details. Patrick has replied as well, and you can look for them 
at http://f6cte.free.fr/PAPERS.ZIP, download the ZIP file and extract 
RS_ID_English.DOC.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

Paul wrote:

 Jose,
 But does that mean you need to be listening in Hell mode? Or does it
 display on the waterfall regardless of the chosen mode?
 Paul



[digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Paul
I think I missed the memo on how to ...display that code as text...

Are you suggesting calling CQ in a different digital mode than Qlivia,
then switching over?  If the listener can read the (Olivia) Text
then they are already reading at the proper BW/Tone??
73,
Paul


 If we allocate a code for each 
 tone/bandwidth combination, and display that code as text in the 
 waterfall immediately before transmitting the Olivia signal, it will 




Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jeff Moore
It's called Video ID and if you can see the waterfall you can read it.  It blew 
me away the first time I saw it, I thought I was seeing things.

Jeff M  --  KE7ACY

- Original Message - 
From: Paul 


I think I missed the memo on how to ...display that code as text...

Are you suggesting calling CQ in a different digital mode than Qlivia,
then switching over? If the listener can read the (Olivia) Text
then they are already reading at the proper BW/Tone??
73,
Paul
. 
 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Jose A. Amador

Paul,

Some programs are capable of sending a Video ID using Hell, so, you 
can read the ID as a text preamble from the waterfall.

MultiPSK also does send a RS ID using some codes sent as an MFSK 
preamble. FDMDV now does use the RS ID too, to help zero beating on 
the spectrum center.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

--

Paul wrote:

 I think I missed the memo on how to ...display that code as text...
 
 Are you suggesting calling CQ in a different digital mode than Qlivia,
 then switching over?  If the listener can read the (Olivia) Text
 then they are already reading at the proper BW/Tone??
 73,
 Paul
 
 
 If we allocate a code for each 
 tone/bandwidth combination, and display that code as text in the 
 waterfall immediately before transmitting the Olivia signal, it will 



Re: [digitalradio] Re: How to choose Olivia tone/bandwidth parameters -- an idea

2008-06-01 Thread Ian Wade
 -Original Message-
From: Jeff Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008   Time: 17:18:23

It's called Video ID and if you can see the waterfall you can read it.  It blew
me away the first time I saw it, I thought I was seeing things.

That's exactly what I had in mind, but instead of sending text such as 
callsigns, you send some helpful information. It blew my mind away too 
the first time I saw it -- or, rather, the first time I heard it!

-- 
73
Ian, G3NRW