[digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2007-01-14 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
Joe, I have derived both Contestia and RTTYM from Pawel's code. You
may look at the sources at http://pocketdigi.sourceforge.net

Try to revert the bits before they are fed to the baudot decoder.

73, Vojtech OK1IAK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello Joe,
 
 What is sure is that there is no other differences that the ones I
gave in the RX/TX modes selection and their descriptions chapter, so
modifications on:
 * Block size (symbols)
 * Scrambling pseudo-random sequence
 * Scrambling shift (in number of bits of sequence right rotation)
 * Characters set 
 
 Try first to change from Olivia to Contestia. It is the simplest, as
RTTYM adds a switch management, contrary to RTTYM.
 
 Then try in reception generating Contestia, without noise. You must
decode it. Then adjust the different parameters of your code to decode
low S/N Contestia signals.
 
 73
 Patrick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Joe Veldhuis 
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM,
could use some advice
 
 
   Patrick only gave an outline of the differences between Olivia and the
   derivative modes. What I am looking for is some pointers on the actual
   task of modifying the templates to implement those differences.
 
   I tried implementing RTTYM by changing the BitsPerCharacter and
   scrambling code/shift parameters in Pawel Jalocha's reference code
(and
   then passing the output through a BaudotASCII routine), but that was
   apparantly not enough, since I don't get any output from the
demodulator.
 
   -Joe, KD8ATU
 
   jhaynesatalumni wrote:
I haven't looked yet, but you might look in the MultiPSK
documentation,
since Patrick recently implemented those modes in his program
and may
have written them up.
 
 

 
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[digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2007-01-08 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
Hi Joe.

I have to confirm what Parick wrote. I am working on
Olivia/Contestia/RTTYM for PocketDigi and after doing what Patrick
described I was able to send/receiver contestia.

I am using Pawel's code, but I removed a lot of dead code before I
started to understand it. I am affraid you would not want to use my
code directly because it uses fixed point arithmetics, which is not as
 precise as the original floating point code.

73 and GL, Vojtech OK1IAK


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hello Joe,
 
 What is sure is that there is no other differences that the ones I
gave in the RX/TX modes selection and their descriptions chapter, so
modifications on:
 * Block size (symbols)
 * Scrambling pseudo-random sequence
 * Scrambling shift (in number of bits of sequence right rotation)
 * Characters set 
 
 Try first to change from Olivia to Contestia. It is the simplest, as
RTTYM adds a switch management, contrary to RTTYM.
 
 Then try in reception generating Contestia, without noise. You must
decode it. Then adjust the different parameters of your code to decode
low S/N Contestia signals.
 
 73
 Patrick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Joe Veldhuis 
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM,
could use some advice
 
 
   Patrick only gave an outline of the differences between Olivia and the
   derivative modes. What I am looking for is some pointers on the actual
   task of modifying the templates to implement those differences.
 
   I tried implementing RTTYM by changing the BitsPerCharacter and
   scrambling code/shift parameters in Pawel Jalocha's reference code
(and
   then passing the output through a BaudotASCII routine), but that was
   apparantly not enough, since I don't get any output from the
demodulator.
 
   -Joe, KD8ATU
 
   jhaynesatalumni wrote:
I haven't looked yet, but you might look in the MultiPSK
documentation,
since Patrick recently implemented those modes in his program
and may
have written them up.
 
 

 
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[digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2006-09-27 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Joe Veldhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello list. I have been trying to implement support for the Contestia
 and RTTYM modes in a fairly new digimode app, fldigi (www.w1hkj.com). 

I haven't looked yet, but you might look in the MultiPSK documentation,
since Patrick recently implemented those modes in his program and may
have written them up.






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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2006-09-27 Thread Joe Veldhuis
Patrick only gave an outline of the differences between Olivia and the
derivative modes. What I am looking for is some pointers on the actual
task of modifying the templates to implement those differences.

I tried implementing RTTYM by changing the BitsPerCharacter and
scrambling code/shift parameters in Pawel Jalocha's reference code (and
then passing the output through a BaudotASCII routine), but that was
apparantly not enough, since I don't get any output from the demodulator.

-Joe, KD8ATU

jhaynesatalumni wrote:
 I haven't looked yet, but you might look in the MultiPSK documentation,
 since Patrick recently implemented those modes in his program and may
 have written them up.


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some advice

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Joe,

What is sure is that there is no other differences that the ones I gave in the 
RX/TX modes selection and their descriptions chapter, so modifications on:
* Block size (symbols)
* Scrambling pseudo-random sequence
* Scrambling shift (in number of bits of sequence right rotation)
* Characters set 

Try first to change from Olivia to Contestia. It is the simplest, as RTTYM adds 
a switch management, contrary to RTTYM.

Then try in reception generating Contestia, without noise. You must decode it. 
Then adjust the different parameters of your code to decode low S/N Contestia 
signals.

73
Patrick








  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Veldhuis 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Implementing Contestia/RTTYM, could use some 
advice


  Patrick only gave an outline of the differences between Olivia and the
  derivative modes. What I am looking for is some pointers on the actual
  task of modifying the templates to implement those differences.

  I tried implementing RTTYM by changing the BitsPerCharacter and
  scrambling code/shift parameters in Pawel Jalocha's reference code (and
  then passing the output through a BaudotASCII routine), but that was
  apparantly not enough, since I don't get any output from the demodulator.

  -Joe, KD8ATU

  jhaynesatalumni wrote:
   I haven't looked yet, but you might look in the MultiPSK documentation,
   since Patrick recently implemented those modes in his program and may
   have written them up.


   

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