[digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
I didn't realize you could use DM780 on its own. I have always found HRD way too complicated, and I don't need a screen full of radio controls taking up useful space when the radio's front panel is right next to me. The disadvantage of using different programs instead of standardizing on one is that you lose the benefits of computer logging. I guess the OP maintains a paper log so he isn't concerned with that aspect. Does DM780 have a log, or do you need HRD for that? Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "J. Moen" wrote: > > I typically don't load up Ham Radio Deluxe, I go directly to DM780, so while > there is a lot of extra functionality there if you need it, you certainly > don't have to ever see that.
[digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
I like the TruTTY program very much. It just has a few modes but it is superb on RTTY. I've found it consistently decodes better even than MMRTTY, DM780 and even MultiPSK. It also has true FSK and links with AALog 3 perfectly. It's other useful modes are MFSK16, PSK31/63/125. Also it is very lightweight and can run on a slower PC. Sholto K7TMG --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "JLA" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been lurking a while and I've not found a clear (to me anyway) > discussion of small, individual digital mode software programs, e.g., one > program for RTTY; one program for Olivia, etc, etc... > > I have a 7200 and I am not at all interested in computer control of my rig. > Neither am I interested in a "software suite" with a zillion bells and > whistles that I will never, ever use. I am neither a contester nor DX-er. I > doubt very, very seriously if I will ever work any digital modes other than > Olivia and RTTY. > > My only current "digital" software program is MRP40 which is FB for QRQ CW > especially in bad/weak signal conditions. It is worth every penny to me as I > can not copy CW at the faster rates (25+ wpm.) > > Any guidance/advice anyone has will be greatly appreciated. > > 73 de W1YB > > Johnne Lee >
[digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
I would argue the other way. When you go to individual software programs, it means that you have to learn the user interface, set-up, and operation of a number of different programs with a number of different interfaces and a number of different approaches as to how software should be written/how software should interact with the user. When you go to a suite, there is consistency. You learn it once instead of having to learn it four or five or six times. I started with individual programs such as WinPSK, MMTTY, etc. It was a pain. I was always doing something wrong because I had just come from a different program that worked differently. And if I wanted to switch modes because I saw a promising signal ... I eventually stumbled on DM780. You only have to set up those modes that you use, and setting up an individual mode in DM780 is no more difficult than setting up that mode in an individual program. AND, the basic stuff requires only one set up one time -- basics such as my rig, my call, how I want the waterfall to look, and my macros. Especially my macros. It's very nice to have consistency so that I know a particular macro will do the same thing every time on every mode. BTW, I don't do computer control of the rig. Jon KB1QBZ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "JLA" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been lurking a while and I've not found a clear (to me anyway) > discussion of small, individual digital mode software programs, e.g., one > program for RTTY; one program for Olivia, etc, etc...
[digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Ed G" wrote: > > > > Jon, your argument is certainly a valid one, but does not take into > account those hams who only want to work one or two digital modes, PSK31 > and RTTY being the primary choice. I was in that boat once, too, but am > just recently beginning to agree with your view on this and have become a > neophyte HRD user. I've got a heck of a lot to learn on that program, but > I now realize the benefits of doing so. > > Ed K7AAT > > > > > > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of JonP > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:49 AM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital > modes > > > > > > I would argue the other way. > > When you go to individual software programs, it means that you have to learn > the user interface, set-up, and operation of a number of different programs > with a number of different interfaces and a number of different approaches > as to how software should be written/how software should interact with the > user. > > When you go to a suite, there is consistency. You learn it once instead of > having to learn it four or five or six times. > > I started with individual programs such as WinPSK, MMTTY, etc. It was a > pain. I was always doing something wrong because I had just come from a > different program that worked differently. And if I wanted to switch modes > because I saw a promising signal ... > > I eventually stumbled on DM780. You only have to set up those modes that you > use, and setting up an individual mode in DM780 is no more difficult than > setting up that mode in an individual program. AND, the basic stuff requires > only one set up one time -- basics such as my rig, my call, how I want the > waterfall to look, and my macros. Especially my macros. It's very nice to > have consistency so that I know a particular macro will do the same thing > every time on every mode. > > BTW, I don't do computer control of the rig. > > Jon > KB1QBZ > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> > , "JLA" wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I've been lurking a while and I've not found a clear (to me anyway) > discussion of small, individual digital mode software programs, e.g., one > program for RTTY; one program for Olivia, etc, etc... >
[digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes...
I agree entirely with getting Signalink first and running Airlink Express. I had no idea about digital and these allowed me to find my way around the new modes. Also Alex of Airlink really helped me when I thought I had a problem... I hadn'tit was my silly fault :-) Jon --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Ed G" wrote: > > > >In my view, the SignaLink USB interface is the way to go, both for good > operation, and simplicity of installation. > > > >Also, I have found AirLink Express to be the most simple program for > PSK31 or RTTYâ¦. Even compared to Digipan . Of course one hamâs > simplicity may be another hamâs complexity⦠and personal choices vary > widely here on this. Still, I recommend AirLinkExpress be tried first. > Regarding that TS-2000 â¦. I can only suggest the manual be read repeatedly > while playing with the radio so the operator can become familiar with it. It > is a fairly complex radio, albeit a good one. > > > > 73 > > > > Ed K7AAT > > > > > > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of greathoun...@... > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:22 AM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various > digital modes... > > > > > > I guess I just feel into the newby bucket. Just got off the phone with a > buddy, I guess I got talked into learning to do psk31. He said he was told to > get a Signallink thingy. Is that the best easy one to get, or is there > better? I see that you list Airlink Express, is that a easy one to learn? I > have a k'wood TS2000 and a Flex 5000 That I'm trying to fumble thru.. Any > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he doesn't know how to run it > either, and I think he wants me to help him ;-) Thanks Bill N8VWI > > > > In a message dated 6/18/2010 1:10:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5...@... > writes: > > > > > "The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio > Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of > such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic > communications" > Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging > programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in > mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham > Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great > program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff > that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this > as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This > program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use > HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison > ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes > is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. > > I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. > > K5WGM > > > --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: > > > From: Ed G > Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various > digital modes > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM > > > >To reiterate the original posterâs comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of > the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, > I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc > etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to > the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do > is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications > > > > Ed K7AAT > > > > From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. > com] On Behalf Of g4ilo > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM > To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital > modes > > > > But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use > Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on > rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest > version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so > they aren't listed on the menu. > > Julian, G4ILO >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
Julian G4ILO asked "Does DM780 have a log, or do you need HRD for that?" When DM780 is loaded by itself, you can have the "Add Log Entry" tab visible, but you can't actually use it. But you can load up the logbook without loading the full HRD. I created two shortcuts, so I can load each individually. The logbook then works normally, but to be honest, when I need the logbook, I typically load all of HRD. But the following is likely to work (the actual path on your computer might be slightly different): 1st shortcut - Target = "C:\Program Files\Amateur Radio\Ham Radio Deluxe\Digital Master.exe" 2nd shortcut - Target = "C:\Program Files\Amateur Radio\Ham Radio Deluxe\HRDLogbook.exe" Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: g4ilo To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:47 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes I didn't realize you could use DM780 on its own. I have always found HRD way too complicated, and I don't need a screen full of radio controls taking up useful space when the radio's front panel is right next to me. The disadvantage of using different programs instead of standardizing on one is that you lose the benefits of computer logging. I guess the OP maintains a paper log so he isn't concerned with that aspect. Does DM780 have a log, or do you need HRD for that? Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "J. Moen" wrote: > > I typically don't load up Ham Radio Deluxe, I go directly to DM780, so while there is a lot of extra functionality there if you need it, you certainly don't have to ever see that.
AW: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
What about multipsk?!? Has as many modes as needed (and lots more) so you need not to change soft when changing mode.. And there is a logbook too (or better say a free available soft that can be used with it) Can control trx via commander (but that is not a must) Can be used together with dxkeeper(but also not must be used together with) Has almost the same panoramic view as the superbrowser in hrd to receive many stations simultaneous What I like with the soft is the mapview: Let the panoramic run for a while with opened map and see where conditions are Received countrys are spotted as a black dot in the country and received locators exatly where they are on the map with red dots. Very nice to let it run and see if there is a new country .. So for the most modes I use multipsk .. As it is free for download you should test it .. Some functions are limited in the free version but for trying them out that is no problem . if you like it just send Patrick the 30 buck . But you can use almost all functions in the free version so just try it out My 0.02$ Greetz Dg9bfrc Sigi _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von g4ilo Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2010 15:47 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes I didn't realize you could use DM780 on its own. I have always found HRD way too complicated, and I don't need a screen full of radio controls taking up useful space when the radio's front panel is right next to me. The disadvantage of using different programs instead of standardizing on one is that you lose the benefits of computer logging. I guess the OP maintains a paper log so he isn't concerned with that aspect. Does DM780 have a log, or do you need HRD for that? Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> , "J. Moen" wrote: > > I typically don't load up Ham Radio Deluxe, I go directly to DM780, so while there is a lot of extra functionality there if you need it, you certainly don't have to ever see that.
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:47 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes The disadvantage of using different programs instead of standardizing on one is that you lose the benefits of computer logging. I guess the OP maintains a paper log so he isn't concerned with that aspect. >>>You can make digital mode QSOs with DM780, FLDigi, MixW, MMSSTV, MMTTY, MMVARI, MultiPSK or WinWarbler while logging QSOs to DXKeeper, using either Commander or HRD for transceiver control. >>>See <http://www.dxlabsuite.com/download.htm#Bridges, Gateways, and Extenders> 73, Dave, AA6YQ
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
Jon, your argument is certainly a valid one, but does not take into account those hams who only want to work one or two digital modes, PSK31 and RTTY being the primary choice. I was in that boat once, too, but am just recently beginning to agree with your view on this and have become a neophyte HRD user. I've got a heck of a lot to learn on that program, but I now realize the benefits of doing so. Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JonP Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:49 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes I would argue the other way. When you go to individual software programs, it means that you have to learn the user interface, set-up, and operation of a number of different programs with a number of different interfaces and a number of different approaches as to how software should be written/how software should interact with the user. When you go to a suite, there is consistency. You learn it once instead of having to learn it four or five or six times. I started with individual programs such as WinPSK, MMTTY, etc. It was a pain. I was always doing something wrong because I had just come from a different program that worked differently. And if I wanted to switch modes because I saw a promising signal ... I eventually stumbled on DM780. You only have to set up those modes that you use, and setting up an individual mode in DM780 is no more difficult than setting up that mode in an individual program. AND, the basic stuff requires only one set up one time -- basics such as my rig, my call, how I want the waterfall to look, and my macros. Especially my macros. It's very nice to have consistency so that I know a particular macro will do the same thing every time on every mode. BTW, I don't do computer control of the rig. Jon KB1QBZ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> , "JLA" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I've been lurking a while and I've not found a clear (to me anyway) discussion of small, individual digital mode software programs, e.g., one program for RTTY; one program for Olivia, etc, etc... <><>
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
To reiterate the original poster's comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
"The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications" Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. K5WGM --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: From: Ed G Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM To reiterate the original poster’s comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes????
"The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications" Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. K5WGM --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: From: Ed G Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM To reiterate the original poster’s comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes...
I guess I just feel into the newby bucket. Just got off the phone with a buddy, I guess I got talked into learning to do psk31. He said he was told to get a Signallink thingy. Is that the best easy one to get, or is there better? I see that you list Airlink Express, is that a easy one to learn? I have a k'wood TS2000 and a Flex 5000 That I'm trying to fumble thru.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he doesn't know how to run it either, and I think he wants me to help him ;-) Thanks Bill N8VWI In a message dated 6/18/2010 1:10:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5...@yahoo.com writes: "The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications" Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. K5WGM --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: From: Ed G Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes To: digitalra...@to: To: Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM To reiterate the original poster’s comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications EdK7AAT From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes...
In my view, the SignaLink USB interface is the way to go, both for good operation, and simplicity of installation. Also, I have found AirLink Express to be the most simple program for PSK31 or RTTY…. Even compared to Digipan . Of course one ham’s simplicity may be another ham’s complexity… and personal choices vary widely here on this. Still, I recommend AirLinkExpress be tried first. Regarding that TS-2000 …. I can only suggest the manual be read repeatedly while playing with the radio so the operator can become familiar with it. It is a fairly complex radio, albeit a good one. 73 Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of greathoun...@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:22 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes... I guess I just feel into the newby bucket. Just got off the phone with a buddy, I guess I got talked into learning to do psk31. He said he was told to get a Signallink thingy. Is that the best easy one to get, or is there better? I see that you list Airlink Express, is that a easy one to learn? I have a k'wood TS2000 and a Flex 5000 That I'm trying to fumble thru.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he doesn't know how to run it either, and I think he wants me to help him ;-) Thanks Bill N8VWI In a message dated 6/18/2010 1:10:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5...@yahoo.com writes: "The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications" Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. K5WGM --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: From: Ed G Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM To reiterate the original poster’s comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO <><>
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Thanks Ed, No I've had the TS2k for quite a while, so I can fumble thru it. But learning the Flex 5k Is a thrill. Anything with a manual over 200 pgs. I keep it handy, and they both do. I'll have to wait for the first, a week and a half, to get the Signal Link USB and will do a google for that software. Besides I have 3 Dr appointments next week, one even out of town...Thanks again...Bill N8VWI PS I do have a Yaesu 890AT and a Icom 745, would either of those be easier, in your opinion? I want to keep one radio for this alone. In a message dated 6/18/2010 1:42:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, huckleberr...@q.com writes: In my view, the SignaLink USB interface is the way to go, both for good operation, and simplicity of installation. Also, I have found AirLink Express to be the most simple program for PSK31 or RTTY…. Even compared to Digipan . Of course one ham’s simplicity may be another ham’s complexity… and personal choices vary widely here on this. Still, I recommend AirLinkExpress be tried first. Regarding that TS-2000 …. I can only suggest the manual be read repeatedly while playing with the radio so the operator can become familiar with it. It is a fairly complex radio, albeit a good one. 73 Ed K7AAT From: digitalradio@ digitalradi digitalradio@yahoogro digitalradio@ digiOn Behalf Of greathoun...@greatho Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:22 AM To: digitalradio@ digitalradi di Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes... I guess I just feel into the newby bucket. Just got off the phone with a buddy, I guess I got talked into learning to do psk31. He said he was told to get a Signallink thingy. Is that the best easy one to get, or is there better? I see that you list Airlink Express, is that a easy one to learn? I have a k'wood TS2000 and a Flex 5000 That I'm trying to fumble thru.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Oh, he doesn't know how to run it either, and I think he wants me to help him ;-) Thanks Bill N8VWI In a message dated 6/18/2010 1:10:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5...@yahoo.in a message "The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications" Overwhelming yes, but also can get in your way. The same is true of logging programs. This is why I am writing my own logging program with simplicity in mind, but with all the features I want and need. It seems to me that Ham Radio Deluxe and other ham programs ( I am not picking on HRD, it is a great program ) could allow the user to go a setup area and turn off a lot of stuff that only a few users would ever need. Some programs are starting to do this as users demand more features. I am one of those who likes FLDIGI-ROL. This program is not overwhelming and still has most features that one needs. I use HRD and other programs occasionally but still come back to FLDIG verison ROL. With me it's all about compromise. Writing software that everyone likes is NOT easy. I know I have been doing it for many years. I agree with both Ed and Julian, good posts. K5WGM --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Ed G wrote: From: Ed G Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes To: digitalra...@to: To: Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 10:43 AM To reiterate the original poster’s comment, it is the COMPLEXITY of the multi-mode programs that he was trying to avoid, and with that stated, I agree with his thinking. The multitude of buttons, tabs, logs, maps, etc etc in such as Ham Radio Deluxe can be quite overwhelming when compared to the elegant simplicity of such as AirLink Express , if all you want to do is PSK31 or RTTY basic communications EdK7AAT From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of g4ilo Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:53 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Individual software programs for various digital modes But you are not forced to use any of the modes in a multimode program. I use Fldigi, but I use PSK most of the time, Olivia a little, MFSK and RTTY on rare occasions. I have never used any of the other modes. In the latest version I believe you can even hide the modes you aren't interested in so they aren't listed on the menu. Julian, G4ILO
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In my opinion any of those radios would be fine for digital work. I am not familiar enough with either to suggest which would be best for digital. Perhaps others here can help….. Ed K7AAT Thanks Ed, No I've had the TS2k for quite a while, so I can fumble thru it. But learning the Flex 5k Is a thrill. Anything with a manual over 200 pgs. I keep it handy, and they both do. I'll have to wait for the first, a week and a half, to get the Signal Link USB and will do a google for that software. Besides I have 3 Dr appointments next week, one even out of town...Thanks again...Bill N8VWI PS I do have a Yaesu 890AT and a Icom 745, would either of those be easier, in your opinion? I want to keep one radio for this alone.
