[digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Thanks Rick, I added it...now what. Where on the band are people using it? Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W mrf...@... wrote: Hi John, I am just using MixW which I downloaded as a test at: http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=downloads then a bit further down on the page is the q15x25dll. I used the latest version. Hearing some odd pulsing transmission like a sort of chug, chug, chug, sound that pulses for a few seconds, stops, and then pulses again. 73, Rick, KV9U John Becker, WØJAB wrote: Where does one get the software?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
From what I know about Q15X25, it was planned to be a replacement for packet, but did not work well enough. Maybe some are still experimenting with it, but considering the protocol structure being very nearly the same as the highest speeds for Pactor 3 (Speed Level 6), which I understand is rarely possible to use on many HF paths, it is not a practical fit for the vagaries of HF. That is why it is so important to have a number of fall back protocols to meet actual HF conditions with the appropriate mode. WINMOR may be the solution for sound card technologies. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: Thanks Rick, I added it...now what. Where on the band are people using it? Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W mrf...@... wrote: Hi John, I am just using MixW which I downloaded as a test at: http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=downloads then a bit further down on the page is the q15x25dll. I used the latest version. Hearing some odd pulsing transmission like a sort of chug, chug, chug, sound that pulses for a few seconds, stops, and then pulses again. 73, Rick, KV9U John Becker, WØJAB wrote: Where does one get the software?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
I think 15 days and then you are on the honor system but it keeps working from what I think someone claimed. Anyone know for sure about the above comment? John
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John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 9:31:01 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test I think 15 days and then you are on the honor system but it keeps working from what I think someone claimed. Anyone know for sure about the above comment? John
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Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement Howard K5HB
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John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
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if you are using MixW have a look at http://www.wattystuff.net/amateur/packet/q15x25setup.htm for setup info I also have VE5GPM up on 14109 so try it might be better. band conditions not great John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Brown Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:08 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB _ From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
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Well I see some active and did copy some of it, but the band its not very good hr in TX today Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:07 PM John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river. net To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
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Russell, are you still around? You and I should be able to work ground wave, I am 12 miles SW of Denton. How about 10 meters? Howard K5HB From: Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 12:52:16 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Well I see some active and did copy some of it, but the band its not very good hr in TX today Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:07 PM John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river. net To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
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I am hearing the tones from Q15X25 but can not actually see them on the waterfall or decode them. Also, have been trying to connect to VE5GPM, but we are likely too close. Am also calling CQ from time to time. If I understand the program correctly, it sends a line when you press the 'enter' key. 73, Rick, KV9U
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Yes I am here Howard.I'm over on K3uk as well as 146.88 OK = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:15 PM Russell, are you still around? You and I should be able to work ground wave, I am 12 miles SW of Denton. How about 10 meters? Howard K5HB From: Russell Blair russell_blair86@ yahoo.com To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 12:52:16 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Well I see some active and did copy some of it, but the band its not very good hr in TX today Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:07 PM John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river. net To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
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Yes I am here Howard.I'm over on K3uk as well as 146.88 OK = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 2:15 PM Russell, are you still around? You and I should be able to work ground wave, I am 12 miles SW of Denton. How about 10 meters? Howard K5HB From: Russell Blair russell_blair86@ yahoo.com To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 12:52:16 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Well I see some active and did copy some of it, but the band its not very good hr in TX today Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Howard Brown k...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:07 PM John, I am trying it as a learning experience. It seems pretty easy if you look at the link Rick sent. I am on there now testing and copied VE5MU. Trying to figure how to copy signals and send unproto ID. Howard K5HB From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river. net To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 11:42:22 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Yeah I saw that also Howard. With the workload it's going to take me longer to learn mix-w then 15 days. At 11:30 AM 2/9/2009, you wrote: John, the web site says: You may download fully functional 15-day trial version of MixW and try it for free. I have no way to know about the rest of the statement... . Howard K5HB
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Rick you and I would be better on 40M later, VE5MU is still on Q25 GPM is on ALE400, both on 14109 John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick W Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:28 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test I am hearing the tones from Q15X25 but can not actually see them on the waterfall or decode them. Also, have been trying to connect to VE5GPM, but we are likely too close. Am also calling CQ from time to time. If I understand the program correctly, it sends a line when you press the 'enter' key. 73, Rick, KV9U
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Is that a dial freq of 14,109.0
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Hi John, Probably quite right about trying a lower band. Because this is a wide bandwidth mode, I did some testing today to see how well (or not) my ICOM 756 Pro 2 passes tones at various audio frequencies and I discovered that it does not do very well with the lower tones. I moved a PSK31 tone around and compared the power output meter from around 100 Hz to 3000 Hz. The power level drops off quite a bit once you get much below 1000 Hz, although it seems to work fairly well as high as 2800 Hz. I have the rig set for the widest possible passband and using the rear DIN connector. The drop off could be due to the interface transformers, but I am not sure. Has anyone else tried determining their effective audio passband with a given rig and interface? What kind of result did you get? 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: Rick you and I would be better on 40M later, VE5MU is still on Q25 GPM is on ALE400, both on 14109 John VE5MU
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oui (yes) we are bilingual up here J John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Becker, WØJAB Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test Is that a dial freq of 14,109.0
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Where does one get the software?
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That only works for ten days or so then stops working right? Don't know if I could learn the program and get the feel of the mode in that time or not. Oh well, thanks just the same Rick At 12:44 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote: Hi John, I am just using MixW which I downloaded as a test at: http://www.mixw.net/index.php?j=downloads then a bit further down on the page is the q15x25dll. I used the latest version. Hearing some odd pulsing transmission like a sort of chug, chug, chug, sound that pulses for a few seconds, stops, and then pulses again. 73, Rick, KV9U
[digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Rick, I noticed you trying to login. You have to login using your callsign, 'kv9u', use your name as a password. Then at the JNOS prompt type in 'conv'. Maiko
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Hi John, I think 15 days and then you are on the honor system but it keeps working from what I think someone claimed. 73, Rick, KV9U John Becker, WØJAB wrote: That only works for ten days or so then stops working right? Don't know if I could learn the program and get the feel of the mode in that time or not. Oh well, thanks just the same Rick
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I did a search on Q15X25 and revisited the yahoogroup. And I now recall that I asked some of the same questions a number of years ago when this was first being tested because I was on that group for a short time, but by then things had not gone well. A number of people who were on that group are on this group as well and their silence tells you that it is just not going anywhere at this point. This was also the general viewpoint on the discussion group, but curiously, while some found that it was very ineffective, there were those who gave me the impression that it was much better than 2FSK300 packet. Since the mode is not adaptable, and always quite wide, this limits its weak signal capabilities, but the tones, spacing, and baud rates seem to be very reasonable. In fact, isn't it fair to say that it is very similar to Pactor 3 at its higher Speed Levels, but running at DBPSK instead of DQPSK and a slightly slower baud rate, but almost the same tone spacing? 73, Rick, KV9U maiko4 wrote: Rick, I am set up with Q15X25 tonight. Anyone willing to test this ? At some point, I would like to try this mode. I remember it from several years ago. It looked very promising at the time. There was an excellent article posted on the internet years ago about it, but I just can't seem to find it anymore :( I stumbled across it while using the FlexNet32 stuff. It was part of Thomas Sailer's soundmodem software locate here (URL) : http://www.baycom.org/~tom/ham/soundmodem/ I don't know how easy it is for you to set it up at a later date and time, but I would like to give it a try at some point, likely on the 20 meter band (14.109 area). I'll let you know when (and IF) I can get it setup properly. My intention is to use soundmodem for linux and then have my JNOS system attach to it as a KISS device. Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1937 - Release Date: 02/05/09 11:34:00
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Oops, one correction: Q15X25 actually is running at QPSK, not BPSK. So perhaps it is even more similar to P3 than I thought. de KV9U
[digitalradio] Re: Q15X25 Packet test
Rick, I am set up with Q15X25 tonight. Anyone willing to test this ? At some point, I would like to try this mode. I remember it from several years ago. It looked very promising at the time. There was an excellent article posted on the internet years ago about it, but I just can't seem to find it anymore :( I stumbled across it while using the FlexNet32 stuff. It was part of Thomas Sailer's soundmodem software locate here (URL) : http://www.baycom.org/~tom/ham/soundmodem/ I don't know how easy it is for you to set it up at a later date and time, but I would like to give it a try at some point, likely on the 20 meter band (14.109 area). I'll let you know when (and IF) I can get it setup properly. My intention is to use soundmodem for linux and then have my JNOS system attach to it as a KISS device. Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM
