[digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-05 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
Hi Skip.

The DOS executable is here:
http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/hamradio/tapr/software_lib/utils/7plus20.exe

The source code is here:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/ham/7pl217sr.tgz

7plus is available as installation package in some Linux distributions. I was 
maintaining 7plus installation package and other HAM applications for SuSE 
Linux in Prague when I was a student.

There is one neat thing about 7plus. 7plus files have standard header and tail. 
The packet radio modems often snipped out the 7plus sections from their RX 
window and stored them into appropriate files. Some applications even executed 
the 7plus utility to decompress the data when all pieces were received. There 
were even programs, that extracted 7plus files from monitor. This allowed for 
multicasting, if the link quality was good.

73, Vojtech

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kh6ty kh...@... wrote:

 That's neat, Vojtech. Is there a link to download 7plus? WRAP only 
 calculates a checksum for the entire file, and if it will not unwrap, 
 we just resend the whole file.
 
 73, Skip KH6TY
 
 
 Vojtech Bubnik wrote:
 
 
   so we developed the Wrap program, which sends a checksum at the end
   of the message, and error-free reception can be verified that way.
 
  Hi Skip.
 
  From the Packet Radio times, we have a 7plus utility, which splits a 
  longer binary file to multiple parts and adds mild error detection / 
  correction codes. After you receive all parts and run them through 
  7plus, if there are errors, the application will generate a request 
  message, which will identify missing parts to be repeated.
 
  73, Vojtech AB2ZA
 
  
 
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 http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net





Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-05 Thread kh6ty
Thanks Vojtech!

73, Skip


Vojtech Bubnik wrote:


 Hi Skip.

 The DOS executable is here:
 http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/hamradio/tapr/software_lib/utils/7plus20.exe 
 http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/hamradio/tapr/software_lib/utils/7plus20.exe

 The source code is here:
 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/ham/7pl217sr.tgz 
 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/ham/7pl217sr.tgz

 7plus is available as installation package in some Linux 
 distributions. I was maintaining 7plus installation package and other 
 HAM applications for SuSE Linux in Prague when I was a student.

 There is one neat thing about 7plus. 7plus files have standard header 
 and tail. The packet radio modems often snipped out the 7plus sections 
 from their RX window and stored them into appropriate files. Some 
 applications even executed the 7plus utility to decompress the data 
 when all pieces were received. There were even programs, that 
 extracted 7plus files from monitor. This allowed for multicasting, if 
 the link quality was good.

 73, Vojtech

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, kh6ty kh...@... wrote:
 
  That's neat, Vojtech. Is there a link to download 7plus? WRAP only
  calculates a checksum for the entire file, and if it will not unwrap,
  we just resend the whole file.
 
  73, Skip KH6TY
 
 
  Vojtech Bubnik wrote:
  
  
so we developed the Wrap program, which sends a checksum at the end
of the message, and error-free reception can be verified that way.
  
   Hi Skip.
  
   From the Packet Radio times, we have a 7plus utility, which splits a
   longer binary file to multiple parts and adds mild error detection /
   correction codes. After you receive all parts and run them through
   7plus, if there are errors, the application will generate a request
   message, which will identify missing parts to be repeated.
  
   73, Vojtech AB2ZA
  
  
 
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[digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-04 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
 so we developed the Wrap program, which sends a checksum at the end 
 of the message, and error-free reception can be verified that way.

Hi Skip.

From the Packet Radio times, we have a 7plus utility, which splits a longer 
binary file to multiple parts and adds mild error detection / correction 
codes. After you receive all parts and run them through 7plus, if there are 
errors, the application will generate a request message, which will identify 
missing parts to be repeated.

73, Vojtech AB2ZA




Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-04 Thread kh6ty
That's neat, Vojtech. Is there a link to download 7plus? WRAP only 
calculates a checksum for the entire file, and if it will not unwrap, 
we just resend the whole file.

73, Skip KH6TY


Vojtech Bubnik wrote:


  so we developed the Wrap program, which sends a checksum at the end
  of the message, and error-free reception can be verified that way.

 Hi Skip.

 From the Packet Radio times, we have a 7plus utility, which splits a 
 longer binary file to multiple parts and adds mild error detection / 
 correction codes. After you receive all parts and run them through 
 7plus, if there are errors, the application will generate a request 
 message, which will identify missing parts to be repeated.

 73, Vojtech AB2ZA

 

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http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net


Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-04 Thread Rein Couperus
I cannot understand why you don't use the pskmail arq binary mail attachment 
feature for this.
7 plus was developed for the ancient packet BBS system around 1978 (which means 
it is 30 years old). We have more modern protocols now...

Using the mail attachment system has a lot of advantages for NBEMS work. It 
allows 
you to comment the file in the same message, which makes archiving and 
retrieval 
a lot easier than ftp.

73,

Rein PA0R

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 That's neat, Vojtech. Is there a link to download 7plus? WRAP only 
 calculates a checksum for the entire file, and if it will not unwrap, 
 we just resend the whole file.
 
 73, Skip KH6TY
 
 
 Vojtech Bubnik wrote:
 
 
   so we developed the Wrap program, which sends a checksum at the end
   of the message, and error-free reception can be verified that way.
 
  Hi Skip.
 
  From the Packet Radio times, we have a 7plus utility, which splits a 
  longer binary file to multiple parts and adds mild error detection / 
  correction codes. After you receive all parts and run them through 
  7plus, if there are errors, the application will generate a request 
  message, which will identify missing parts to be repeated.
 
  73, Vojtech AB2ZA
 
  
 
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[digitalradio] Re: QRV ALE-400 ARQ chat mode -- 14074.0

2009-07-03 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W mrf...@... wrote:

 It seems that there are only a handful of hams who have any interest in 
 ARQ modes for chatting.

I guess I'm one of that handful, but right now I'm working my way
back from some lightning damage that killed two computers, among
other things.

Jim W6JVE