[digitalradio] Re: Re : ROS is bigger and better
Well I have to admit I have been guilty of ending a Phone contact in CW if the contact fell below the noise... just to be polite and say goodbye. We Canadians are a polite bunch hihi. That was about 20 years ago or more though. It was actually quite common in Canada to do just that... but I haven't heard it done in years. Skip has an interesting perspective on that... and I appreciate his input on it. Live and learn. Paul VE9NC --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: That's true Skip, it is historical, its a leftover. How many people have we heard in the last 10 years in Europe, with such a vitally important message, that when conditions are too poor to continue to use telephony they conclude by using Morse code ? Er one maybe ? Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re : new question
Music ... though that rang a bell .. happy days ! http://www.rossrevenge.co.uk/ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, mikea mi...@... wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:46:18PM -, raf3151019 wrote: Do any Old Buffers in the UK remember the original Ros, the one by the name of Edmundo Ros ? He used to have a small band, had a half hour a week on the old BBC radio and his band played at social gatherings where the young rich and gay used to dance the hours away. Yes! Thanks for resurrecting those neural paths! The sort of music I imagined Bertie Wooster and Lord Peter Wimsey dancing to. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@... Tired old sysadmin
[digitalradio] Re: Re : new question
I remember him well :-) I always thought that he had a dreadful voice for singing. Jon G4FUT --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Do any Old Buffers in the UK remember the original Ros, the one by the name of Edmundo Ros ? He used to have a small band, had a half hour a week on the old BBC radio and his band played at social gatherings where the young rich and gay used to dance the hours away. Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,
Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,
G.. you are a really funny joker S On 11.07.2010 16:59, graham787 wrote: Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re-inventing repeaters via ALE/APRS concepts?
You mean, what Echolink does? Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: This may be a little off the usual digital mode related topics. Today I was thinking about VHF/UHF FM voice repeaters and the trouble repeater owners go to when maintaining a repeater site. Typically the location is a high hill , atop a large tower, lots of hard line, elaborate lightning protection, expensive and fussy duplexers, etc etc. While I am sure it is fun to own such a system, it must occasionally be quite a chore. The chore is sometimes made worse by the fact that repeater sites are often the result of begging cellular tower operators for a bit of room for the hams, then losing the right of access every time the cell site changes ownership (often very frequently). So, in my day-dreaming today, I was thinking that surely modern technology could come up with some innovation that would eliminate the need to secure high sites atop 500 foot towers. I began to think how 2M or 70cm radios could perhaps be re-invented with better (smarter) cross-band or within-band repeat functions. Where , based on some ALE concepts , K3UK calling a local ham on 2M could have the simplex signal picked-up by a station within simplex range and repeated to the desired destination station based on known LQA-type tables . Or, like APRS, some signals are picked up and echoed (repeated) based on number of hops than can be expected between originating and destination station. Maybe QST or CQ calls would get picked and repeated by the equivalent of node stations versus a call between two stations ? Of course mobile operations would pose a more difficult challenge back to the drawing board but this mega station on a hill idea surely has to be reinvented sometime. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Re-inventing repeaters via ALE/APRS concepts?
but without Internet On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:57 AM, g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com wrote: You mean, what Echolink does? Julian, G4ILO --
[digitalradio] Re: RE
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: RE
obrienaj wrote: Member removed. I'm having to close down my Hotmail account after another Hotmail user, who I didn't know had been hacked, emailed me and the spammer then hacked my Hotmail account. The trouble with Hotmail is that it's an online email system, so you don't get to preview the messages and, once you've been hacked, all your contacts then get spammed with what appears to be your address and they, in turn, then have their address book compromised if they are on Hotmail. This then results in loads of people suggesting to you that your PC has been compromised, when it's actually the MSN/Hotmail/Microsoft system that's been compromised... All in all, Hotmail is now not worth the hassle to me so I'm abandoning it once and for all. Fortunately, this email account is on my PC, so I can detect and spot the attempts to hack before they get chance to do any damage. Dave (G0DJA)
[digitalradio] Re: Re : Interface within the rig ?
I'm assuming you mean something other than the USB interfaces on the Icom 7200, 7600, and 9100 transceivers? They have USB audio and rig control via the USB port. Gary - N0GW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle spar...@... wrote: Mel, I would have to agree with you. It is a shame that for an extra couple of dollars fitting a USB interface and sound (quality) into the radio would open digital up to more uses. I too have a maze of cables running through the shack connecting radios to computers and others. Being able to run one single USB cable that would do Rig control and data would get rid (in my case) 3 cables. But I do what I can. As for D-Star, ICOM is the maker, don't believe Yaesu has anything in their line-up, same for Kenwood (except the rebrand). I am a Kenwood man and so far I have resisted going to D-Star until I see what the other makes bring out. If D-Star was so good WHY haven't the other brands made and sold them? So for now I am using a Signa-Link USB for the digital modes which makes things a little tidier. Still I have a messy shack. Bye for now. Kevin, ZL1KFM. PS. I am looking forward to full digital voice on HF when it gets better to setup. A simple interface box (at a resonable price as well) - Original Message - From: raf3151019 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ? Considering that PSK 31 has been used for almost eleven years by many hams, I think the tranceiver manufacturers missed the opportunity to add this facility to their equipment many years ago. Interest in all forms of digital communication methods grew steadily during the first years of the new century and including an interface would have encouraged hams to buy a particular model. My shack has a rats nest of cable which is unsightly. The inclusion of D-star was obviously considered to be an asset for the sales of Yaesu, perhaps it is popular in Japan, but I believe a PSK interface would have helped to sell more Yaesu equipment worldwide. Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re : Interface within the rig ?
Hi - I have been lurking here since I am very much a newbie - but here is the Wikipedia article on DSTAR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-STAR and http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=12005 DSTAR is an open standard, although Icom has been the first to include it with their radios. DSTAR is promoted by Icom, Yaesu has WIRES - http://www.vxstd.com/en/wiresinfo-en/ DSTAR currently has the largest installed user base from what I have heard. My 0.02 worth - Thanks, Bruce KC8VEB
[digitalradio] Re: re sdr
Francis, have you tried posting this same question in the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40/ group? They specialize in this device and even have instruction files on all the softrock boards in the files section. John - KE5HAM --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, francisho...@... francisho...@... wrote: hi to all in the group .. can any one tell me wer the white wire , or lead from the usb on the main softrock v.9 .board can any one please tell me wer i solder it to , as wen i was fitting it in a new box . it came of aand i dont no wer to or wat pin to solder it back on thanks
[digitalradio] Re : Re: help DSP-2232
image src=http://hl3ahq.karl.or.kr/zb/data/digital/dsp_2232_Q.jpg; --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, hl2pcu hl2pcu@ wrote: Deer OM I got one old model tnc DSP-2232.. It is very powerful function... But No Manual make me hard... With PK-900 Manual, Hardly I Succeeded RTTY 1200 Packet... Pse Inform to me ... SAT Updown wiring Method Operationg Command.. and right side variable volume function...etc Many tnx de hl2pcu Kim Kim, have you tried the DSP-2232 with PK Term ? http://files.cssincorp.com/pkterm/pk37506.zip That may help. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Re : 30 metres alive
Those who do both CQinf and Listening and do it somewhat balanced? --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That made me smile ! Hams are split into two types, (1) those who never call CQ (2) Those who call CQ, but rarely. Is there another of the species I wonder ? Sounds like how one commentator described a football match, er, soccer to those on the left side of the Atlantical Ocean, as being a game of two halves ! Regards, Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re : 30 metres alive
Those who do both and do it somewhat balanced? --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That made me smile ! Hams are split into two types, (1) those who never call CQ (2) Those who call CQ, but rarely. Is there another of the species I wonder ? Sounds like how one commentator described a football match, er, soccer to those on the left side of the Atlantical Ocean, as being a game of two halves ! Regards, Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] Re: Re-inventing the JT65A messages for HF?
-Thanks Bill and Jose, I agree. Andy -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jose A. Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I think it is not a good idea, at least so far. RRR, RO, and 73 are shorthand messages, no real text sent, but a combo of tones, and that has adventages at very low levels compared to real text. Watch the waterfall when you get called and when you get those shortand messages, 73, Jose, CO2JA __ V Conferencia Internacional de Energ�a Renovable, Ahorro de Energ�a y Educaci�n Energ�tica. 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007 Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu
[digitalradio] Re: Re-inventing the JT65A messages for HF?
Hi Andy, Think there is a mixed bag; some of use have used the WSJT modes for some time on vhf/uhf for EME and MS;p so we tend to stick to known conventions. So far I have seen no reason to deviate from that... 73 es be well, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see a few are confused about the proper sequence and meaning of the EME/MS related messages within JT65A of WSJT. So, am I. I wonder if us HFer's should try to be more straight forward? The general use is described as.. When a station copies both calls, he sends calls and report. If he gets both calls and a report, he sends his report Roger. If he gets report and Roger, he sends Rogers. When both get a pair of Rogers, the QSO is officially complete. The report mentioned above is traditionally the gridsquare in JT65A, I find that useful. So , How about these messages CQ P5DX K3UK replies with message 1 P5DX K3UK FN02hk P5DX sees both calls and sends K3UK P5DX PM27 OOO QSL K3UK receives the report and sends QSL , thanks PD5DX sends... RRR 73 K3UK sends ... RRR 73 I would keep RO, OOO, RRR in the messages because they also get displayed in the waterfall. I'm not sure how/why yet, but that is my weekend learning objective. As I read more about the mdoe and the software, K1JT advocates the use of standard operatings procedurees. So, maybe changing his convention is not a good idea? Andy
Re: [digitalradio] RE: Re: Too much power
...'tis true...Jay N3DQU Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:02:08 -0500 From: Rick Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: Re: Too much power Like most things in amateur radio, it is whatever interests the operator and what they find useful and fun to do. The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] RE: Re: Too much power and courteous notifiication - how/if
Yep, I agree with Jose. Problems with signal width, noise and splatter aren't usually due to operating high power, but rather because the audio input to the rig is being overdriven from the soundcard. Until someone comes up with an easy way to monitor the rf output at the sending station, this will always be a problem with the soundcard modes. If a high power signal is properly driven, the only thing it will do is blank out your waterfall, assuming the front end of your rig can handle the signal that is...73 de Jay N3DQU Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 03:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jose Amador [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: Too much power and courteous notifiication - how/if I think it is a matter of signal cleanlinessuse the lowest power that allows the communication, with a clean signal. In PSK, as well as in SSB voice, and many digital modes with an envelope (I am not referring to constant envelope modes as RTTY) a clean signal is a must to conserve bandwidth. It is not a matter of power only. If you must make the contact, switch on your amplifier and run it at LOW POWER, that is, low enough to have a powerful but CLEAN signal with low IMD. Nevertheless, the audio from your TNC or soundcard shall never overload your transceiver input. Linearity shall be mantained from the signal source up to the antenna, no matter if you run milliwatts or full legal power. Happy QSOs, 73 de Jose, CO2JA The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] RE: Re: Too much power
Something to consider is that if many radio amateurs are using low power or medium power and you chose to use much higher power, while it may be possible for them to print you, you will likely not be able to print them and the QSO will not be able to continue if signals are that marginal. I can see one possible use of an amplifier and that is when a ham has a very poor transmitting antenna system due to perhaps local restrictions. They can copy other stations OK but they have a difficult time being heard. Human nature would suggest that if it is found by many, that they can get much better results by running higher power (but clean)signals, then things will gravitate in that direction. Like most things in amateur radio, it is whatever interests the operator and what they find useful and fun to do. 73, Rick, KV9U -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay Budzowski Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 08:32 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RE: Re: Too much power and courteous notifiication - how/if Yep, I agree with Jose. Problems with signal width, noise and splatter aren't usually due to operating high power, but rather because the audio input to the rig is being overdriven from the soundcard. Until someone comes up with an easy way to monitor the rf output at the sending station, this will always be a problem with the soundcard modes. If a high power signal is properly driven, the only thing it will do is blank out your waterfall, assuming the front end of your rig can handle the signal that is...73 de Jay N3DQU -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005 The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] RE: Re: Too much power
--- Rick Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something to consider is that if many radio amateurs are using low power or medium power and you chose to use much higher power, while it may be possible for them to print you, you will likely not be able to print them and the QSO will not be able to continue if signals are that marginal. A very old adage from Jeeves: You´ve gotta hear´em to work´em. Undeniable truth. It is certainly better to spend on antennas than on amplifiers, it gives better results and generally less RFI. I can see one possible use of an amplifier and that is when a ham has a very poor transmitting antenna system due to perhaps local restrictions. They can copy other stations OK but they have a difficult time being heard. It generates a poor transmission...and reception, too. I forgot to mention a gadget from MFJ I saw some time ago: a series tuned ground for apartment dwellers. Having the chasis of your radio hot with RF surely is a call for trouble. Get one or make a copy, but the metal case of your radio better be at zero RF potential. Human nature would suggest that if it is found by many, that they can get much better results by running higher power (but clean)signals, then things will gravitate in that direction. Like most things in amateur radio, it is whatever interests the operator and what they find useful and fun to do. I personally find broad signals the worse between those two evils. 73 de Jose, CO2JA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
