[digitalradio] Re: SSB on 14070

2008-02-08 Thread Phil Wells
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been hearing more activity that appears to be illegal voice than 
 I have ever heard in the past 50 years. It is so bad that a number of 
 times I have been hearing voice transmissions that interfere with WWV 
 reception!

On 8 Feb, midday US PST, I heard a recorded voice just saying what
sounded like Five over and over again. My radio was tuned to 14070.
 I also witnessed some digital modes I'm not familiar with that were
much wider than PSK31 - as wide as MT63 at least but I don't think
that's what they were. They just swamped maybe 10 different PSK31
QSOs, at least at my QTH in San Diego. I don't know if the modes to be
used at 14070 are a gentlepersons' agreement or are FCC/ITU proscribed
(I assume the former) but I know that wide modes are usually used
closer to 14100 so these were either rude or clueless people.

Phil Wells
AF6AV
San Diego



[digitalradio] Re: SSB on 14070

2008-02-07 Thread Brad
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I have ben hearing what sounds like Vietnamese on 14.070 LSB.  I
suspect 
 bootleg operation.

We hear a lot of that throughout 40, 30 and 20m and everywhere in
between. All Asian pirates, fishing vessels, phone patches, all sorts
of things. It can really ruin 10132 for a start.

Brad VK2QQ



Re: [digitalradio] Re: SSB on 14070

2008-02-07 Thread Robert Chudek - K0RC
That's an interesting frequency to select for the source of voice qrm. I 
wouldn't be so fast to blame VE's or other non-US stations for this increased 
interference. That is the BFO (14070 dial) frequency for virtually every 
transceiver running PSK on 20 meters.

With the proliferation of PSK31 using soundcard technology, my first 
inclination would be some operators do not mute or disable their microphone 
when using AFSK for these modes. 

So now there's a live mic in the shack while they are happily PSKing away. 
Everything is fine until they shout... HEY MARTHA, WHAT'S FOR DINNER TODAY?

Instant qrm. 50 years ago the operator knew when his microphone was live and on 
the air!  :-)

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN



  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: SSB on 14070


  I have been hearing more activity that appears to be illegal voice than 
  I have ever heard in the past 50 years. It is so bad that a number of 
  times I have been hearing voice transmissions that interfere with WWV 
  reception!

  Probably much of the voice activity on the ham bands that are in the 
  U.S. text data portions of the bands are due to operators in other 
  countries moving lower. I know that Canadians in particular were very 
  upset with the liberalization of the U.S. voice frequencies some years 
  ago and declared that they would move down below the U.S. frequencies. 
  In fact, I remember someone commenting that if the U.S. ever increased 
  liberalization of the voice bands, they would just move down even 
  further. Since the more recent increase in voice bandwidths for U.S. 
  hams this may have caused at least some of this.

  Although on 40 meters you will often hear wide split operation because 
  those outside of Region 2 may not have as wide a band, I recently heard 
  a CU2 working narrow split down around the digital area. When the 10 
  meter band is open we can have many pirates operating in the text data 
  areas of the band since that likely seems like an unused part of the 
  spectrum to those stations.

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  Brad wrote:
   --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
   I have ben hearing what sounds like Vietnamese on 14.070 LSB. I
   
   suspect 
   
   bootleg operation.
   
  
   We hear a lot of that throughout 40, 30 and 20m and everywhere in
   between. All Asian pirates, fishing vessels, phone patches, all sorts
   of things. It can really ruin 10132 for a start.
  
   Brad VK2QQ
  
   



   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: SSB on 14070

2008-02-07 Thread Rick
I have been hearing more activity that appears to be illegal voice than 
I have ever heard in the past 50 years. It is so bad that a number of 
times I have been hearing voice transmissions that interfere with WWV 
reception!

Probably much of the voice activity on the ham bands that are in the 
U.S. text data portions of the bands are due to operators in other 
countries moving lower. I know that Canadians in particular were very 
upset with the liberalization of the U.S. voice frequencies some years 
ago and declared that they would move down below the U.S. frequencies. 
In fact, I remember someone commenting that if the U.S. ever increased 
liberalization of the voice bands, they would just move down even 
further. Since the more recent increase in voice bandwidths for U.S. 
hams this may have caused at least some of this.

Although on 40 meters you will often hear wide split operation because 
those outside of Region 2 may not have as wide a band, I recently heard 
a CU2 working narrow split down around the digital area. When the 10 
meter band is open we can have many pirates operating in the text data 
areas of the band since that likely seems like an unused part of the 
spectrum to those stations.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Brad wrote:
 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 I have ben hearing what sounds like Vietnamese on 14.070 LSB.  I
 
 suspect 
   
 bootleg operation.
 

 We hear a lot of that throughout 40, 30 and 20m and everywhere in
 between. All Asian pirates, fishing vessels, phone patches, all sorts
 of things. It can really ruin 10132 for a start.

 Brad VK2QQ