Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread Rick
It is hard to keep so many resources in mind all the time unless you 
promote it. I had completely forgotten about it until recently.

Andy's sked pages for other groups is new to me and I can see where it 
could really help increase activity.

One thing that may work for some groups is having a common frequency for 
their mode.

HF Pack has all sorts of frequencies for different modes.

Another group is the NREN (National Radio Emergency Network) which is a 
kind of niche group that promotes the use of CW as the primary contact 
resource for emergencies. They typically monitor 7050, 10.115, (some of 
their info says 10.120) and 14050 as much as possible. If you were 
operating portable with simple equipment it would almost have to be CW 
to work with modest antennas and a couple of watts and they can take 
message traffic out of normal net sequence.


73,

Rick, KV9U



Andrew O'Brien wrote:
 BUT the use has been a LOT less than I anticipated.  I created the  
 idea with digital modes of all kinds in mind and the use has been 
 quite low.  As an after thought,  I set up a second page for the 
 Straight Key Century Club ( 
 http://www.obriensweb.com/skccsked/skccsked.php )  and the use there 
 has been very high, often 20-30 users within a 10 minute period.  I 
 also created one for Worked All States ( 
 http://www.obriensweb.com/was/was.php ) , even that exceeds the 
 digital one at times.  US Islands group will be using one that we 
 created for them ( http://www.obriensweb.com/usi/usi.php ) soon.  I am 
 contemplating  perhaps a separate page for ALE experiments.

 Andy K3UK




Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread WN1Z
On 7/25/07, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am contemplating  perhaps a separate page for ALE experiments.

Andrew, personally i would welcome that, since ALE is
overwhelming anything else on the digital sked page.  So far
i'm not having much luck with ALE and my interest is more in
WSJT on HF, and also in other digital modes for random contacts.
73 de wn1z
Orrin


Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread Rick
Sorry to hear this. You would think that they would remove it from their 
web site if they discontinued it. I have been monitoring some of their 
frequencies and have been hearing some CW but probably just coincidental 
use of those freqs?

It always was a niche activity and clearly was something that QMN was 
closely associated with. I have read some of the editorials and 
realized this was mostly the idea of one person. But it is the sign of 
the times and one wonders how easy it will be to make CW contacts if you 
really needed to ask for help, assistance, or ability to route e-mail or 
other messages to a third party (such as for pick up time from a remote 
location). I think it is really neat when amateur radio is used for such 
things and there is no other practical alternative.

Maybe they should have worked closer with HF Pack? Some of the 
frequencies were pretty close so that if you were in trouble and calling 
CQ for help they might hear you. The problem is that unless it is a full 
blown emergency, it might be difficult to route messages to the average 
ham who does not know how to do this.

I have not had to handle emergency traffic as incoming from remote 
backpackers but have had some CW contacts with folks who were operating 
casually from remote locations. I find that quite enjoyable even though 
they may be fairly weak.

Unfortunately it would be very difficult to operate with other digital 
modes than CW since you have to have so much other equipment to make it 
work. We are really fortunate today with the ultra compact and 
moderately priced portable HF CW rigs, but ironically fewer and fewer 
hams will be able to use them since they won't have the skill.

73,

Rick, KV9U



n2qz wrote:

 NREN is basically defunct due to lack of interest and participation.

 According to Jim W8SIW on Apr. 4 2007, Interest in the program was 
 quite low, and the NREN concept evolved into essentially an auxiliary 
 web page for QMN (albeit a very good one, thanks to Chuck, AA8VS).

   


Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread n2qz
Rick wrote:

 Another group is the NREN (National Radio Emergency Network) which is a
 kind of niche group that promotes the use of CW as the primary contact
 resource for emergencies. They typically monitor 7050, 10.115, (some of
 their info says 10.120) and 14050 as much as possible. If you were
 operating portable with simple equipment it would almost have to be CW
 to work with modest antennas and a couple of watts and they can take
 message traffic out of normal net sequence.

NREN is basically defunct due to lack of interest and participation.

According to Jim W8SIW on Apr. 4 2007, Interest in the program was 
quite low, and the NREN concept evolved into essentially an auxiliary 
web page for QMN (albeit a very good one, thanks to Chuck, AA8VS).

-- 
73 de Nick N2QZ
Section Traffic Manager, Eastern New York Section
Net Manager, NYS/E
FISTS #11469
SKCC #1027


Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-26 Thread John Bradley
don't get discouraged about use, Andy , since it is summer and radio activities 
take a back seat to
many other things, especially in this house. Haven't figured out how to go HF 
ALE mobile in a golf cart
or boat.

The Sked page has been a lot of fun, and has spurred some interesting 
experiments. Thanks again
for all your great work.

John
VE5MU




  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew O'Brien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page


  BUT the use has been a LOT less than I anticipated.  I created the  idea with 
digital modes of all kinds in mind and the use has been quite low.  As an after 
thought,  I set up a second page for the Straight Key Century Club ( 
http://www.obriensweb.com/skccsked/skccsked.php )  and the use there has been 
very high, often 20-30 users within a 10 minute period.  I also created one for 
Worked All States ( http://www.obriensweb.com/was/was.php ) , even that exceeds 
the digital one at times.  US Islands group will be using one that we created 
for them ( http://www.obriensweb.com/usi/usi.php ) soon.  I am contemplating  
perhaps a separate page for ALE experiments.

  Andy K3UK







  On 7/25/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Orrin, there are folks using other modes on the page. Thanks to Andy for 
such a great tool.

73... Jon W1MNK
 Just curious, is anyone on this list using the
 Digital Radio Interactive Sked Page
 (http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php)
 for anything other than HFLINKNET / ALE stuff?

 Or has anyone seen any activity there lately for other
 than ALE testing?

 Just checking.

 Orrin wn1z
 in northeast Calif.






   


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-25 Thread Andrew O'Brien

BUT the use has been a LOT less than I anticipated.  I created the  idea
with digital modes of all kinds in mind and the use has been quite low.  As
an after thought,  I set up a second page for the Straight Key Century Club
(http://www.obriensweb.com/skccsked/skccsked.php )  and the use there has
been very high, often 20-30 users within a 10 minute period.  I also created
one for Worked All States (http://www.obriensweb.com/was/was.php ) , even
that exceeds the digital one at times.  US Islands group will be using one
that we created for them ( http://www.obriensweb.com/usi/usi.php ) soon.  I
am contemplating  perhaps a separate page for ALE experiments.

Andy K3UK





On 7/25/07, Jon Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Orrin, there are folks using other modes on the page. Thanks to Andy for

such a great tool.

73... Jon W1MNK
 Just curious, is anyone on this list using the
 Digital Radio Interactive Sked Page
 (http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php)
 for anything other than HFLINKNET / ALE stuff?

 Or has anyone seen any activity there lately for other
 than ALE testing?

 Just checking.

 Orrin wn1z
 in northeast Calif.

 



[digitalradio] Re: digital radio interactive sked page

2007-07-25 Thread Jon Maguire
Orrin, there are folks using other modes on the page. Thanks to Andy for 
such a great tool.

73... Jon W1MNK
 Just curious, is anyone on this list using the
 Digital Radio Interactive Sked Page
 (http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php)
 for anything other than HFLINKNET / ALE stuff?

 Or has anyone seen any activity there lately for other
 than ALE testing?

 Just checking.

 Orrin wn1z
 in northeast Calif.