Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-24 Thread Joe Serocki

From my time in Ham Radio:



  - Going from Class A to a structured licensing was the end of Ham
  Radio.
  - Giving Novices 10m voice  was the end of Ham Radio.
  - Giving Novices 220  was the end of Ham Radio.
  - Dropping CW from structured classes to 5WPM was the end of Ham
  Radio.
  - Dropping CW was the end of Ham Radio.

No opinions, no flames, no political agenda, just a review of history. I am
sure there are plenty of other examples along these lines.


On 3/23/07, John Champa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Bruce,

Do you ALWAYS over-react, of is that just for this reflector? ;o)

John

Original Message Follows
From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300
symbols/second)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:17:09 -0700 (PDT)

This will be the end of ham radio .

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Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-24 Thread John Champa
Bruce,

Is all you know how to do is flame?

Turn down the heat and go back on your meds, OK?

Thanks from all of us,
John
K8OCL

Original Message Follows
From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 
symbols/second)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT)

Do you ever want to see a vote of all members of the
arrl? or better yet all hams as to if they want this?

You know damn well if wide band gets going all other
modes will be squeezed out ... why do you think the
RTTY/CW guys are livid right now ?

how many ARRL members will be left after this mess you
are proposing get going ? hopefully none .

They GAVE you 222 and up but untill you OWN all the
bands your kind will not be happy 

It's the truth and you know it .


--- John Champa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > Bruce,
 >
 > Do you ALWAYS over-react, of is that just for this
 > reflector?  ;o)
 >
 > John
 >
 >
 > Original Message Follows
 > From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data
 > Wall (300
 > symbols/second)
 > Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
 >
 > This will be the end of ham radio .
 >
 >
 >
 >

 > Don't pick lemons.
 > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
 > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
 >
 >
 >





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Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-23 Thread bruce mallon
Do you ever want to see a vote of all members of the
arrl? or better yet all hams as to if they want this?

You know damn well if wide band gets going all other
modes will be squeezed out ... why do you think the
RTTY/CW guys are livid right now ?

how many ARRL members will be left after this mess you
are proposing get going ? hopefully none .

They GAVE you 222 and up but untill you OWN all the
bands your kind will not be happy 

It's the truth and you know it .


--- John Champa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bruce,
> 
> Do you ALWAYS over-react, of is that just for this
> reflector?  ;o)
> 
> John
> 
> 
> Original Message Follows
> From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data
> Wall (300 
> symbols/second)
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> This will be the end of ham radio .
> 
> 
> 
>

> Don't pick lemons.
> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
> 
> 
> 



 

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Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-23 Thread John Champa
Bruce,

Do you ALWAYS over-react, of is that just for this reflector?  ;o)

John


Original Message Follows
From: bruce mallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 
symbols/second)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:17:09 -0700 (PDT)

This will be the end of ham radio .




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Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-23 Thread bruce mallon
This will be the end of ham radio .


 

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[digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-23 Thread expeditionradio
It seems that one of the effects of ARRL's clarification of new
modifications to FCC proposal is to tear down the famous "300 symbols
per second" wall. 

In place of that old wall, a new wall would be built:

A new 3kHz bandwidth limit for RTTY/data signals.
Prior to this, there was no bandwidth limit on RTTY/data signals. 

The Technology Jail structure remains, but at least it is being upgraded 
:)

Bonnie KQ6XA