[digitalradio] digital modes and signal reports

2008-06-23 Thread ekkonl
Hello,

First a quick intro.
Eventhough this is my first post, I've been lurking here 
since about the end of 2007, meanwhile studying for my 
licence, for which I did exam April 16th 2008, and passed.

So today I'm a Novice radio amateur in the Netherlands, 
which puts me on 70cm/2mtr/10mtr/20mtr/40mtr.

Being mostly interested in digital modes, I'm usually 
active on 20 mtr doing psk31 and some JT65a.
Yesterday I logged psk31 QSO #200, and went to take a 
closer look at my log, and found that all but one of them 
had RSQ 599 given, and received.

So being as guilty as everyone else in my log, I went to 
take a closer look at how to give accurate RSQ reports, 
and after some reading, spent most of today, just staring 
at the waterfall while trying to judge all the signals with 
an honest RSQ report, and - surprise suprise - only very few 
signals were actually a true 599

Thinking back to some QSOs I had, to places like Kazakhstan, 
Canada, and the US, with only a humble magnetic loop mounted in 
the attic, and a max allowed output of 25 Watts, I can't help 
but wonder about the importance of RSQ reports, it certainly 
looks like it's not being taken all that serious.

I'm going to at least change that on my end, I've seen too 
many stations splattering all over my passband who deserved 
an accurate report so they could have sorted their ALC, power, 
or whatnot, which brings me to my question.

With QSOs as short as they often are on 20 mtr / psk31, what's 
the point in giving a report at the beginning of the QSO?
Shouldn't the report reflect the quality of the whole QSO, 
rather than just the beginning?
Wouldn't it make more sense to give the report at the end, 
together with the 73?

RSQ 579, 73, good health, good dx, sk

Or am I just looking at a long standing tradition of giving 
each other the best possible report, so to be friendly?

73,

Eric PD9EL



Re: [digitalradio] digital modes and signal reports

2008-06-23 Thread Jeff Moore
By your own admission, most psk qso's are short.  In addition, the band can 
change rapidly, so most of us want to get that report in at the beginning, 
because you may not get a chance otherwise.

I agree that a generic report of 599 for everyone doesn't do any good.  I try 
to give accurate reports  -  the true information is much more useful, and if 
you're getting consistent 599's  then you're doing good!

Jeff  --  KE7ACY
CN94ib

- Original Message - 
From: ekkonl 


Hello,
[snip]
Shouldn't the report reflect the quality of the whole QSO, 
rather than just the beginning?
Wouldn't it make more sense to give the report at the end, 
together with the 73?

RSQ 579, 73, good health, good dx, sk

Or am I just looking at a long standing tradition of giving 
each other the best possible report, so to be friendly?

73,

Eric PD9EL
. 
 

RE: [digitalradio] digital modes and signal reports

2008-06-23 Thread Curt Givens
Eric, I too have a lot of 599's in my log and think I know why at least for
the hams using MixW if you leave it set for default RSQ it will send 599. I
set my reply so it asks me to enter the RSQ before the macro runs and I try
to read an actual signal report of the scope in the MixW screen. Seems to
work. MixW will seldom show a 599. Last night I saw a couple of nice QSO's
on the waterfall that it showed as 589 and 579, these guys had really clean
signals with IMD readings above -26 in both cases. I'll look for you on the
waterfall next time 20 opens to the east.

73, Curt

Curt Givens  KC8STE, AAR5VR Army MARS
Earthdog and Special Programs Director
GCDOC/GCAC
Dayton, OH

Registering lawful Americans who possess a gun to stop armed criminals, is
like registering virgins to stop prostitution.


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Subject: [digitalradio] digital modes and signal reports

Hello,

snip
Being mostly interested in digital modes, I'm usually 
active on 20 mtr doing psk31 and some JT65a.
Yesterday I logged psk31 QSO #200, and went to take a 
closer look at my log, and found that all but one of them 
had RSQ 599 given, and received.
snip

73,

Eric PD9EL





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