Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Andy

I probably was too far out with this off topic , but after a half an
hour listening to the stream I was in chock. I have never heard such bad
language on the band and
since people on this group often write about US regulation I took the
chance to ask.

Yes, the Pinell radio is a great toy. It has over 15,000 Internet radio
stations and Podcasts to choose from.

73 de la5vna Steinar





On 23.01.2010 16:41, Andy obrien wrote:
 Regardless of who is in Govt at the current time, there seems to be an
 increase in the USA of hams who express political opinion over the air.
 When I first became a ham , my mentors explained that expressing political
 opinion over the air was not within the ethics of ham radio.  Alas, this
 view seems to have changed over the years, at least in the USA. 
Interesting
 new Toy, Steinar.


 On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steinar Aanesland
saa...@broadpark.nowrote:



 Hi all

 I know this is off topic, but I am confused.

 I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell (
 http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
 across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: 
 http://www.3819khz.net/;

 It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
 things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
 here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

 73 la5vna Steinar







Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Ackrill
Steinar Aanesland wrote:

 It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
 things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
 here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

There is a widely held misconception about what is, and is not, allowed 
to be discussed on air.

There is always the good sense point of view that certain topics will be 
likely to stir up bad feeling and argument and are, therefore, best 
avoided in the interests of good manners and avoiding embarrassment.

However, legally it is usually the case that politics, religion and sex, 
for example, are not actually banned as subjects for discussion.

That said, from the reports of the group in question, you have to say 
that a) they are talking to other people who hold their views and are 
unlikely to welcome any constructively opposing views and b) once you 
know their callsigns you can avoid having anything to do with them, so 
it's going to be a self inclusive group that is going to show its 
prejudice to anyone that listens for a while.

A long time ago I stopped arguing with people with whom I was unlikely 
to persuade of my argument, or who I wasn't likely to ever be convinced 
of their point of view, as just being a waste of time on both sides.  I 
suspect that groups such as those mentioned fall into this general 
category and I would also include groups who hold similarly extreme 
points of view on the other side of the political argument as well...

A good case in point was a colleague of mine, who was espousing his own 
political point of view about how he thought people should vote in the 
UK the other day.  In conversation over a pint or two I gave him my 
point of view, which he didn't accept, but I guess we agreed to differ 
and left it at that.  Maybe that sort of conversation might be 'OK' on 
air, but I wouldn't want to have it because personally I don't think the 
Amateur Bands are the place to have conversations that you have in the 
Pub.  But that's just my point of view.  HI.

Dave (G0DJA)


[digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-23 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all

I know this is off topic, but I am confused.

I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell  (
http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: http://www.3819khz.net/;

It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

73 la5vna Steinar



Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-23 Thread Andy obrien
Regardless of who is in Govt at the current time, there seems to be an
increase in the USA of hams who express political opinion over the air.
When I first became a ham , my mentors explained that expressing political
opinion over the air was not within the ethics of ham radio.  Alas, this
view seems to have changed over the years, at least in the USA.  Interesting
new Toy, Steinar.


On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.nowrote:



 Hi all

 I know this is off topic, but I am confused.

 I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell (
 http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
 across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: 
 http://www.3819khz.net/;

 It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
 things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
 here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

 73 la5vna Steinar