RE: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
The RSID experience is still positive on this one. Most notable, is the presence of the recent release of DRM 780 on the bands. All of my contacts that involved mode detection via RSID has been with stations running DM 780. The major modes this week was DominoEX, OLIVIA, and QPSK65 - all on 39 meters. I had little experience with the Feld Hell modes and their interaction with RSID to really develop an opinion. I would be interested the experience of others with the Feld Hell suite. philw de ka1gmn On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 09:35 -0400, Ford, Steve, WB8IMY wrote: I’d definitely be interested, Andy. 73 . . . Steve Ford, WB8IMY QST Editor/Publications Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington CT 06111-1494 Telephone: 860-594-0200 Fax: 860-594-0259 email:sf...@arrl.org From: Andy obrien [mailto:k3uka...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:03 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: wb8...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article Steve Ford from ARLL/QST is on this list. Maybe it is something he can fit in to an edition. I can work with him if he is interested . Andy K3UK On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Vojtech Bubnikbubn...@seznam.cz wrote: Who voluteers to write an article for QST? This is exactly the publicity this tool needs. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
Just wait for HRD 6.0 with SDR console support :) Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: phil williams ka1...@gmail.com The RSID experience is still positive on this one. Most notable, is the presence of the recent release of DRM 780 on the bands. All of my contacts that involved mode detection via RSID has been with stations running DM 780. The major modes this week was DominoEX, OLIVIA, and QPSK65 - all on 39 meters.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 08:15:15PM +0200, Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: Just wait for HRD 6.0 with SDR console support :) SDR console support as in HRD 6.0 will drive my RFSpace SDR-IQ, display and demodulate spectrum from it? Or in some other sense? Either way, Thanks Very Much, yet again, for HRD and its brethren. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
- Original Message - From: mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx SDR console support as in HRD 6.0 will drive my RFSpace SDR-IQ, display and demodulate spectrum from it? Yes Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!
This is not an official answer, but I will take a stab at it. RSID is an Olivia transmission at the beginning of each digital transmission that contains the operating parameters used by the originating station. RSID stands for Reed-Soloman ID. Wiki Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed%E2%80%93Solomon_error_correction RSID can be coded into the digital sound card software at the author's discretion. The modes it is most useful on are model like Olivia, MT-63, Contestia, or modes that have multiple combinations of number of tones, bandwidth, interleave, etc. Modes that offer many configuration options but sound relatively alike are easier to master using RSID on both ends. After becoming accustomed to the varying sounds, it becomes less of a concern, to the point that you can recognize them by ear, or proficient enough to decode on the fly. Currently, MultiPSK, HRD and (I believe) FL-Digi have it as an option. I am unsure of the FL-Digi implementation. The software determines if it is toggled off after first IDing a transmission or stays in constantly, once selected. Both originating and receiving station must have it enabled. It is enabled according to the Author's instructions, which is dependent on how it is implemented in each software package. This reply is based on limited usage of RSID when it first became available on MultiPSK a few years back. I never used it enough to really become proficient, but this is my basic understanding of how it works. YMMV, David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nf2g Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:49 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID! OK, thanks for the clarification. In sum, this is the basic information we all appear to need: 1) What is RS ID? We are each responsible for everything that is transmitted by our stations, so we should understand what this is. 2) On what modes is RS ID required/recommended/preferred? 3) Which software supports RS ID? 4) How do we enable RS ID in each capable software package? 73 de Dave, NF2G
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!
MFSK16, not Olivia. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, David Littledalit...@bellsouth.net wrote: This is not an official answer, but I will take a stab at it. RSID is an Olivia transmission at the beginning of each digital transmission that contains the operating parameters used by the originating
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!
It is not Olivia or MFSK16 guys. It's just MFSK modulation based on Reed Solomon coding. From Patrick's documentation: Each mode corresponds to a message which is transformed in a particular Reed-Solomon sequence. Each sequence is composed of 15 symbols (of 4 bits), each symbol being transmitted in a MFSK modulation. There are 16 possibilities of frequencies separated by 11025/1024=10.766 Hz, each symbol transmission being done on only one frequency for a duration equal to 1024/11025*1000=92.88 ms. So, the 15 symbols are transmitted in 15*1024/11025=1,393 s. 73 Sholto K7TMG Andy obrien wrote: MFSK16, not Olivia. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, David Littledalit...@bellsouth. net mailto:dalite01%40bellsouth.net wrote: This is not an official answer, but I will take a stab at it. RSID is an Olivia transmission at the beginning of each digital transmission that contains the operating parameters used by the originating
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!
I think we're seeing first hand why a well researched, vetted description will be so useful! One suggestion for the final web repository and any papers that may be written... PLEASE PUT A DATE ON IT. I don't know how many times I've searched for information, APRS comes to mind most recently, and you find something where you have no clue when it was written or published. Comments such as This is the latest version of XYZ and supercedes all others are totally worthless as well. Few things are never revised. Tim, N9PUZ Sholto Fisher wrote: It is not Olivia or MFSK16 guys. It's just MFSK modulation based on Reed Solomon coding. From Patrick's documentation: Each mode corresponds to a message which is transformed in a particular Reed-Solomon sequence. Each sequence is composed of 15 symbols (of 4 bits), each symbol being transmitted in a MFSK modulation. There are 16 possibilities of frequencies separated by 11025/1024=10.766 Hz, each symbol transmission being done on only one frequency for a duration equal to 1024/11025*1000=92.88 ms. So, the 15 symbols are transmitted in 15*1024/11025=1,393 s. 73 Sholto K7TMG Andy obrien wrote: MFSK16, not Olivia. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, David Littledalit...@bellsouth. net mailto:dalite01%40bellsouth.net wrote: This is not an official answer, but I will take a stab at it. RSID is an Olivia transmission at the beginning of each digital transmission that contains the operating parameters used by the originating
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
That would be best of all, to have a write-up in QST. 73 DE Charles, N5PVL
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
I'd definitely be interested, Andy. 73 . . . Steve Ford, WB8IMY QST Editor/Publications Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio 225 Main Street Newington CT 06111-1494 Telephone: 860-594-0200 Fax: 860-594-0259 email:sf...@arrl.org From: Andy obrien [mailto:k3uka...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:03 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: wb8...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article Steve Ford from ARLL/QST is on this list. Maybe it is something he can fit in to an edition. I can work with him if he is interested . Andy K3UK On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Vojtech Bubnikbubn...@seznam.cz mailto:bubnikv%40seznam.cz wrote: Who voluteers to write an article for QST? This is exactly the publicity this tool needs. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Use the *$%#ing RS ID!/QST article
Hi, For Andy K3UK: I suggest you run any text through me / Dave W1HKJ to check it :) Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Ford, Steve, WB8IMY I'd definitely be interested, Andy.
