RE: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:

2007-03-09 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Remember...the ARRL is making a suggestion, Part 97 is the LAW.
 
73,
 
Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Ivey
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:48 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:


Ok, but how many are licensed by the ARRL? My license does not have any 
reference to ARRL. So where am I going to operate? Wherever the FCC says in 
their rules says I can.
 
If any U S ham is operating with licenses issued by the ARRL then they are 
operating Illegal.
 
Joe
W4JSI
 

- Original Message - 
From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:



Disputed territory:
3580 - 3600 kHz in North America 

Where the FCC says I can operate digital modes in North America:

1.800 - 2.000 kHz
3.500 - 3.600 kHz
7.000 - 7.100 kHz
10.100 - 10.150 kHz
14.000 - 14.150 kHz

ARRL Band Plan and FCC Authorizations:

160 Meters
ARRL 1.800 - 1.810 Digital Modes 
ARRL 1.810 CW QRP 
Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 Digital Modes
Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 CW 

80 Meters
ARRL 3.570 - 3.600 RTTY/Data 
ARRL 3.590 RTTY/Data DX 
Part 97 3.500 - 3.600 Digital Modes
Part 97 3.500 - 4.000 CW

40 Meters:
ARRL 7.040 RTTY/Data DX 
ARRL 7.080 - 7.125 RTTY/Data 
Part 97 7.000 - 7.100 Digital Modes
Part 97 7.000 - 7.300 CW

30 Meters
ARRL 10.130-10.140 RTTY 
ARRL 10.140-10.150 Packet 
Part 97 10.100 - 10.150 Digital Modes/CW

20 Meters
ARRL 14.0700 -1 4.095 RTTY 
ARRL 14.0950 - 14.0995 Packet 
ARRL 14.1005 - 14.112 Packet 
Part 97 14.000 - 14.150 Digital Modes
Part 97 14.000 - 14.350 CW

Ok...I can move over (up or down) between CW stations...just tune the band for 
myFuzzy Mode signal.

73,

Walt/K5YFW


 



Re: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:

2007-03-08 Thread Joe Ivey
Ok, but how many are licensed by the ARRL? My license does not have any 
reference to ARRL. So where am I going to operate? Wherever the FCC says in 
their rules says I can.

If any U S ham is operating with licenses issued by the ARRL then they are 
operating Illegal.

Joe
W4JSI

  - Original Message - 
  From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:33 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:



  Disputed territory:
  3580 - 3600 kHz in North America 

  Where the FCC says I can operate digital modes in North America:

  1.800 - 2.000 kHz
  3.500 - 3.600 kHz
  7.000 - 7.100 kHz
  10.100 - 10.150 kHz
  14.000 - 14.150 kHz

  ARRL Band Plan and FCC Authorizations:

  160 Meters
  ARRL 1.800 - 1.810 Digital Modes 
  ARRL 1.810 CW QRP 
  Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 Digital Modes
  Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 CW 

  80 Meters
  ARRL 3.570 - 3.600 RTTY/Data 
  ARRL 3.590 RTTY/Data DX 
  Part 97 3.500 - 3.600 Digital Modes
  Part 97 3.500 - 4.000 CW

  40 Meters:
  ARRL 7.040 RTTY/Data DX 
  ARRL 7.080 - 7.125 RTTY/Data 
  Part 97 7.000 - 7.100 Digital Modes
  Part 97 7.000 - 7.300 CW

  30 Meters
  ARRL 10.130-10.140 RTTY 
  ARRL 10.140-10.150 Packet 
  Part 97 10.100 - 10.150 Digital Modes/CW

  20 Meters
  ARRL 14.0700 -1 4.095 RTTY 
  ARRL 14.0950 - 14.0995 Packet 
  ARRL 14.1005 - 14.112 Packet 
  Part 97 14.000 - 14.150 Digital Modes
  Part 97 14.000 - 14.350 CW

  Ok...I can move over (up or down) between CW stations...just tune the band 
for myFuzzy Mode signal.

  73,

  Walt/K5YFW


   

Re: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:

2007-03-08 Thread Danny Douglas
Tell ya what guys.  Go ahead and operate voice at 14.050 or 7.100.  and see
if it is the ARRL or the FCC that sends you a letter, or even shows up on
your door step.  Maybe rather than that, you might want to ask the W5YI
group for a copy of the freqs.  They certainly dont have anything to do with
ARRL.  They were the NO Code leaders and earned my everlasting disgust.
ARRL is simply the voice of amateur radio in the US, whether you want them
to be or not, and I certainly dont always agree with their decisions.

ARRL conveys the rules and regs, and quite often tries to get them changed,
but they do not MAKE them.  I happen to have a list of bands/modes here on
the wall - printed by ALINCO.  Its the same list on the table - printed by
ICOM, and esentially the same as the newest list from the ARRL web page (
with that one updated due to the new FCC regulations effective a couple of
weeks ago).  They all agree, except for those new changes.  They, and their
predecessors are what I have been following for over 40 years, and I havent
gotten any kind of warning from the FCC in all that time.  Others have
ignored them, and some of those are now off the air - by FCC decree.

Just worked TC0DX on the original digital mode, so gonna go look for more.





Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.



Re: [digitalradio] Disputed territory:

2007-03-08 Thread John Bradley

  Don't involve us Canadians in this argument. This problem was created by the 
USA, is a problem only within the USA ,
  and the solution has to come from the USA. 

  As an outsider, it seems that the FCC was overly zealous in allowing another 
200khz for SSB operations,
  and stuffing everyone else in a 100khz segment. In actual practice , very few 
SSB signals are heard below 3700 khz
  so why not campaign for the FCC/ARRL to allocate 3650 up for SSB and 3650 
down to 3550 for digi and the rest for CW
  I don't understand why they messed with this in the first place.

  John
  VE5MU



  Disputed territory:
  3580 - 3600 kHz in (North America) in the USA 

  Where the FCC says I can operate digital modes in North America:

  1.800 - 2.000 kHz
  3.500 - 3.600 kHz
  7.000 - 7.100 kHz
  10.100 - 10.150 kHz
  14.000 - 14.150 kHz

  ARRL Band Plan and FCC Authorizations:

  160 Meters
  ARRL 1.800 - 1.810 Digital Modes 
  ARRL 1.810 CW QRP 
  Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 Digital Modes
  Part 97 1.800 - 2.000 CW 

  80 Meters
  ARRL 3.570 - 3.600 RTTY/Data 
  ARRL 3.590 RTTY/Data DX 
  Part 97 3.500 - 3.600 Digital Modes
  Part 97 3.500 - 4.000 CW

  40 Meters:
  ARRL 7.040 RTTY/Data DX 
  ARRL 7.080 - 7.125 RTTY/Data 
  Part 97 7.000 - 7.100 Digital Modes
  Part 97 7.000 - 7.300 CW

  30 Meters
  ARRL 10.130-10.140 RTTY 
  ARRL 10.140-10.150 Packet 
  Part 97 10.100 - 10.150 Digital Modes/CW

  20 Meters
  ARRL 14.0700 -1 4.095 RTTY 
  ARRL 14.0950 - 14.0995 Packet 
  ARRL 14.1005 - 14.112 Packet 
  Part 97 14.000 - 14.150 Digital Modes
  Part 97 14.000 - 14.350 CW

  Ok...I can move over (up or down) between CW stations...just tune the band 
for myFuzzy Mode signal.

  73,

  Walt/K5YFW


   


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