Re: [digitalradio] FLARQ outperforms WINMOR
Andy, Thanks for the Flarq tests last night. That was really fun. I can see how useful this can be in emergency communications in addition to a program like Winmor. Winmor with its capabilities to send email through the Winlink network and NBEMS with its peer to peer capabilities to send error free digital data. I like Flarq's capability to use a simple setup like a low power radio, simple antenna and especially that $1.50 USB sound card that you were using :-) 73, Ron ny3j Andy obrien wrote: Well, not an apples to apples test.. but Ron NY3J and I played for quite a while with FLARQ tonight on 80M and 40. 80M was was in poor shape with QRN and weak signals but we managed a few slow MFSK16 email transfers. We then switched to 40M and I received Ron about S5, he was 200 miles away. We really had NO problems transferring email and text files using PSK250. I sent one big file that averaged 800 bytes per minute . On Winmor I have not had more than 300 bytes per minute although some have reported 1000 bytes per minute. My sound card was a $1.50 USB sound adapter. After an hour or so, we tried PSK500 but were not able to get a connect perhaps the band was changing. So, while we are having fun seeing the good progress of WINMOR ... don't forget FLARQ. It is simple and it works well. My next step is to see if I can run both FLARQ and PSKMAIL at the same time. While in the shack until about 0600 UTC, I will have my FLARQ beacon beaconing every 15 minutes. I have RS ID on , so you can switch me over if you need to change modes. Drop me an email on 7083 (7082 dial, plus 1000 hz on waterfall) When it is sleep time, I will close since we do not run this unattended. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Basic Question
On a VHF repeater you could use BPSK500 or BPSK1000, I have just sent the patches for fldigi... I am testing those modes now on RF with pskmail, and the speed is INCREDIBLE... 73, Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: T.O.M.Bent lwdeh...@verizon.net Gesendet: 23.10.09 13:32:04 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] Flarq Basic Question Our locals would like to start testing\learning flarq. My question is what are the better modes when using flarq on a 2m fm repeater? It could also be ask, is 2m fm repeater the best way to operate ARQ in a local area? Tnx, Lynn - KB3FN Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] flarq compatible modes
Dave, Is the beacon interval OK? Wouldn't it better be 30 MINUTES? I wonder, because I used to run beacons every 10 minutes on packet. Less than that could be considered antisocial by some people... :-( 73, Jose, CO2JA --- David Freese escribió: for example: MT63-500 requires flarq be set up with: Wait time 30 seconds Timeout 300 seconds Tx delay 500 msec Beacon interval 30 seconds on both ends. Watch the flowers grow :-) Probably the most important thing for persons trying the flarq / fldigi suite to know is that they should not use DominoEX-FEC or Olivia as the transport layer. These modes suppress the transmission of the required control codes for the flarq data stream. 73, Dave, W1HKJ __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 3832 (20090206) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com Participe en Universidad 2010, del 8 al 12 de febrero de 2010 La Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2010.cu - SEGUNDO SEMINARIO INTERNACIONAL LEGADO Y DIVERSIDAD. ARQUITECTURA Y URBANISMO. El rescate de los valores urbanos y arquitectónicos en tiempos de globalización Colegio de San Gerónimo, La Habana Vieja, noviembre 24-27, 2009 -
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq
Yes, Windows OR Linux. Andy K3UK On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Shabsigh shabs...@scs-net.org wrote: - Original Message - From: Shabsigh To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB Can I use Flarq directly on Windows??? 73 Omar YK1AO
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq
Yep, Windoze and Linux versions. Check out on http://www.w1hkj.com/ Regards Toby MM0TOB ---Original Message--- From: Shabsigh Date: 02/03/2009 12:20:28 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq - Original Message - From: Shabsigh To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Transceiver Mode Setting - Digital or USB Can I use Flarq directly on Windows??? 73 Omar YK1AO
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0
Roger Skip... Lots of big signals on the band -- no one to play with : ) Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Tony, try calling CQ EM. I am QRV on 14.074 + 1000 USB 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 All, I'm QRV 14074.0 USB Fldigi / Flarq as of 2200z Friday the 20th. Would like to test Flarq email throughput / ARQ mode. Dial Frequency - 14074.0 Offset - +1000Hz Mode - MFSK32 Beaming southwest - I'll be here for a while... 73, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0
Started to copy some of your beacon, but too weak to connect. Try MFSk16. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Roger Skip... Lots of big signals on the band -- no one to play with : ) Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Tony, try calling CQ EM. I am QRV on 14.074 + 1000 USB 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 All, I'm QRV 14074.0 USB Fldigi / Flarq as of 2200z Friday the 20th. Would like to test Flarq email throughput / ARQ mode. Dial Frequency - 14074.0 Offset - +1000Hz Mode - MFSK32 Beaming southwest - I'll be here for a while... 73, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0
Try 3585 usb + 1000 Copied ur beacon, but too much QSB. Will be on 3585. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Roger Skip... Lots of big signals on the band -- no one to play with : ) Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Tony, try calling CQ EM. I am QRV on 14.074 + 1000 USB 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 All, I'm QRV 14074.0 USB Fldigi / Flarq as of 2200z Friday the 20th. Would like to test Flarq email throughput / ARQ mode. Dial Frequency - 14074.0 Offset - +1000Hz Mode - MFSK32 Beaming southwest - I'll be here for a while... 73, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0
Skip, Try 3585 usb + 1000 Copied ur beacon, but too much QSB. No antenna for 80 meters. Sorry om... Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Try 3585 usb + 1000 Copied ur beacon, but too much QSB. Will be on 3585. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Roger Skip... Lots of big signals on the band -- no one to play with : ) Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 Tony, try calling CQ EM. I am QRV on 14.074 + 1000 USB 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq -sked pse 14074.0 All, I'm QRV 14074.0 USB Fldigi / Flarq as of 2200z Friday the 20th. Would like to test Flarq email throughput / ARQ mode. Dial Frequency - 14074.0 Offset - +1000Hz Mode - MFSK32 Beaming southwest - I'll be here for a while... 73, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
RE: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5
I am also listening on frequency. Fred VE3FAL -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:52 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 All, I'm running Fldigi's Flarq mailbox on 14107.5 USB (+1000Hz offset) MFSK32 ARQ mode. The beacon is set to go every 10 minutes starting at the top of the hour. It will be on until 23:30z. The antenna (5 element monobander) is pointed due west. Power output is 20 watts. Please connect and send a message. Thanks, Tony - K2MO Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Yahoo! Groups Links --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090218-0, 02/18/2009 Tested on: 2/19/2009 5:29:35 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5
Copy you in South Carolina, but very weak as ur beam is headed West. Unable to connect. Skip - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 All, I'm running Fldigi's Flarq mailbox on 14107.5 USB (+1000Hz offset) MFSK32 ARQ mode. The beacon is set to go every 10 minutes starting at the top of the hour. It will be on until 23:30z. The antenna (5 element monobander) is pointed due west. Power output is 20 watts. Please connect and send a message. Thanks, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5
Copy you in South Carolina, but very weak as ur beam is headed West. Unable to connect. Skip Thanks for trying Skip. Lots of big signals on the band, few takers. I've tested Flarq from PC-to-PC and it seems to work fine with both Vista and XP. Will try for a live connect again tomorrow... Thanks again. Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 Copy you in South Carolina, but very weak as ur beam is headed West. Unable to connect. Skip - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 All, I'm running Fldigi's Flarq mailbox on 14107.5 USB (+1000Hz offset) MFSK32 ARQ mode. The beacon is set to go every 10 minutes starting at the top of the hour. It will be on until 23:30z. The antenna (5 element monobander) is pointed due west. Power output is 20 watts. Please connect and send a message. Thanks, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5
Tony, the recommended ARQ procedure is in the Help menu in flarq: Initiating an ARQ connect session Start by sending a 'CQ NBEMS' or some similar unique way of indicating that you are seeking to send ARQ traffic. Do this from the digital modem program and not from flarq. The potential station for receiving your ARQ traffic will answer in the clear. Negotiate what digital mode you will use for the ARQ connection; ie: PSK-63, PSK-125, PSK-250, MFKS-16 etc. Then try that mode without ARQ to be sure that QRN and QSB will not seriously disrupt the connection. Ask the responding station to send an ARQ beacon using flarq. You will then see his ARQ callsign appear in the callsign window. Click the CONNECT button to connect with that station. The text next to the diamond will change to CONNECTING and remain that way during the connect time out period. During the connection process the CONNECT button will be disabled (greyed out). There is more which I do not reproduce here. I suggest you make a sked or call CQ NBEMS at a time that you post here. The reason for this is that MFSK16 or MFSK32 require accurate tuning, and the beacon does not stay on very long so someone can tune you in, especially using MFSK32. If you use DominoEx 11 you will have a better chance, since tuning is not nearly as critical. The reason we do not want people to beacon before establishing a connection is that the possibility of transmitting over someone already using the frequency is very high, and that is inappropriate for these shared ham bands. By calling CQ, you will find a clear frequency that will not override anyone else. Once you are in QSO, the frequency is yours until you sign, just like any other QSO. If you start with the slower modes, you will have a better chance to connect, as their minimum S/N is lower. You can even shift to a faster mode during the transfer, coordinating with Plain Talk. I am available for a sked if you wish. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 Copy you in South Carolina, but very weak as ur beam is headed West. Unable to connect. Skip Thanks for trying Skip. Lots of big signals on the band, few takers. I've tested Flarq from PC-to-PC and it seems to work fine with both Vista and XP. Will try for a live connect again tomorrow... Thanks again. Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 Copy you in South Carolina, but very weak as ur beam is headed West. Unable to connect. Skip - Original Message - From: Tony d...@optonline.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Flarq Mailbox Running 14107.5 All, I'm running Fldigi's Flarq mailbox on 14107.5 USB (+1000Hz offset) MFSK32 ARQ mode. The beacon is set to go every 10 minutes starting at the top of the hour. It will be on until 23:30z. The antenna (5 element monobander) is pointed due west. Power output is 20 watts. Please connect and send a message. Thanks, Tony - K2MO Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM
