Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On 04/14/2011 09:11 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Apr 14, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> I think you have a bad choice of words, I don't think this is a >> "reformed" SCO. Since the SCO litigation is not finished, currently >> Novell owns the copyrights and The Open Group owns the trademarks. > Not reformed in the sense of turning over a new leaf. Reformed in the sense > of disbanded formed again. I copy directly from the company's web site: > "UnXis, Inc., a new company formed by Stephen Norris Capital Partners and > MerchantBridge Group created to acquire all the operating assets and > intellectual property rights of The SCO Group, Inc." The "intellectual > property rights" are currently in appeals. > > Here's more: > http://www.unxisco.com/asset-sale/ > > This isn't the end of SCO. It's the start of a new round. > It does. We still have to wait for the 10th Circuit to hear and rule on SCO's second appeal. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
SVN log history woes
Hi Folks In short, I need a way to keep commit log history per file when I merge one branch into another in SVN. I know this is a limitation of SVN, but I was wondering if anyone has come up with a creative solution for this thorny issue. Also, much as I would like to move to 'git' I cant, it is a company decision not my own and my git suggestion was shot down. oh well. What is happening to me is this. I start with a file foo.txt in TRUNK. I make two edit and commits to it. if I do 'svn -log foo.txt' I will see the text of the two commit messages. I then create a branch from trunk. I made another 3 edits to the foo.txt file in the branch if I do 'svn log foo.txt' I see the original trunk commit messages and the 3 from in the branch. However, if I then merge foo.txt back into trunk and do svn log foo.txt I will only see 3 commits. the two I did before the branching, and the commit message from the merge back into trunk. I need to find a way to see all the history. Stackoverflow/google etc not been much help as people seem to just accept this. I was wondering how others have addressed this programatically? thanks for any suggestions ! Richard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: SVN log history woes
On 04/15/2011 08:46 AM, theBlueSage wrote: > However, if I then merge foo.txt back into trunk and do svn log foo.txt > I will only see 3 commits. the two I did before the branching, and the > commit message from the merge back into trunk. I need to find a way to > see all the history. Interesting problem. What version of svn are you using? 1.6+ keeps much better information about merges, and there is a flag to "svn log" now that shows additional info from the merge history (-g / --use-merge-history). I don't have a 1.6 repo with properly done merges handy, so I can't tell you exactly what that adds. If that doesn't do what you want, you could do a few things: - If you formatted your merge messages in a particular way (to include the path to the branch that is being merged, etc), then it should theoretically be possible to wrap the svn log in a script that recursively calls svn log on the merged branches (using --stop-on-copy). - You could write a script (or if you want to get fancy, do it as a pre-commit hook, which is allowed to modify the log) to generate a commit message for the /merge commit/ that includes all the constituent commit messages from the branch. I think doing the second option is probably better, and done in a non-automatic way (ie don't do the pre-commit hook). The reason is the same as the reason why subversion doesn't do this automatically: the nature of a merge /may/ include human intervention and/or more manual changes. These manual changes may invalidate/undo some of the changes from the branch. So unless you have a policy where merges may only contain results of "svn merge" and no manual edits (which in turn would require the branch maintainer to keep making commits to the branch until it would merge cleanly), then it's not safe to do anything automatic. HTH, Matt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > It does. We still have to wait for the 10th Circuit to hear and rule on > SCO's second appeal. Do we? UnXis claims that it acquired all of SCO's assets and intellectual properties. The new company claims ownership of the UNIX and UNIXWARE trademarks: > Under the sale terms, UnXis retains all customer contracts, the rights to the > UNIX and UNIXWARE trademarks and installed base of over 32,000 customer > contracts in 82 countries, including major enterprise customers in finance, > manufacturing, retail, quick-serve restaurants, consumer electronics and > state and federal government. http://www.unxisco.com/2011/04/11/unxis-completes-purchase-of-sco-unix-assets/ This is, of course, wrong. These are owned by The Open Group. So, what is really going on? It looks to me like UnXis is gearing up for another round. Never mind the blatant lies elsewhere in the company FAQ, like how UNIX is entirely closed source. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
Thank you everyone who have been offering their opinion and intepretation on this. I had been following the SCO case off and on for a number of years. But based, on what I have been reading from you folks, there is more than meets the eye on this. And there may yet be more repercussions regarding this purchase. Thanks again, Paul From: Richard Pieri To: blug Unix Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:57:44 AM Subject: Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix... On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > It does. We still have to wait for the 10th Circuit to hear and rule on > SCO's second appeal. Do we? UnXis claims that it acquired all of SCO's assets and intellectual properties. The new company claims ownership of the UNIX and UNIXWARE trademarks: > Under the sale terms, UnXis retains all customer contracts, the rights to the >UNIX and UNIXWARE trademarks and installed base of over 32,000 customer >contracts in 82 countries, including major enterprise customers in finance, >manufacturing, retail, quick-serve restaurants, consumer electronics and state >and federal government. http://www.unxisco.com/2011/04/11/unxis-completes-purchase-of-sco-unix-assets/ This is, of course, wrong. These are owned by The Open Group. So, what is really going on? It looks to me like UnXis is gearing up for another round. Never mind the blatant lies elsewhere in the company FAQ, like how UNIX is entirely closed source. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: SVN log history woes
> From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf > Of theBlueSage > > In short, I need a way to keep commit log history per file when I merge > one branch into another in SVN. I know this is a limitation of SVN, but Not really. Have a look at --use-merge-history (-g) http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.branchmerge.advanced.html I think this ability was added in svn 1.5, but don't quote me. Fact check if it's important for you to know which version of svn introduced this. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Nagios, Gnome 3, Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop
How might people in Blu use the Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop on a home network? I always power down all my boxes when not at home. When I do boot up, I have a bigger box with a screen and keyboard. Doug ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Nagios, Gnome 3, Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:35:05AM -0400, Doug wrote: > How might people in Blu use the Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop on a home > network? I always power down all my boxes when not at home. When I do > boot up, I have a bigger box with a screen and keyboard. If the video decoder worked, it might be a plausible front-end for MythTV. -dsr- -- http://tao.merseine.nu/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference. You can't defend freedom by getting rid of it. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Nagios, Gnome 3, Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop
On Apr 15, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Doug wrote: > > How might people in Blu use the Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop on a home > network? I always power down all my boxes when not at home. When I do > boot up, I have a bigger box with a screen and keyboard. I'm thinking about getting one to replace the two G4 Mac Minis that I use as my home file and ssh servers. I have a Roku for video decoding so the Smarttop file server would be just peachy as the video file store. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On 04/15/2011 09:57 AM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> It does. We still have to wait for the 10th Circuit to hear and rule on >> SCO's second appeal. > Do we? UnXis claims that it acquired all of SCO's assets and intellectual > properties. The new company claims ownership of the UNIX and UNIXWARE > trademarks: > This is what they claim, and as I mentioned, someone saw this and contacted the Open Group. >> Under the sale terms, UnXis retains all customer contracts, the rights to >> the UNIX and UNIXWARE trademarks and installed base of over 32,000 customer >> contracts in 82 countries, including major enterprise customers in finance, >> manufacturing, retail, quick-serve restaurants, consumer electronics and >> state and federal government. > http://www.unxisco.com/2011/04/11/unxis-completes-purchase-of-sco-unix-assets/ > > This is, of course, wrong. These are owned by The Open Group. So, what is > really going on? It looks to me like UnXis is gearing up for another round. > > Never mind the blatant lies elsewhere in the company FAQ, like how UNIX is > entirely closed source. > Basically, there are 2 general issues, (1) the trademarks that The Open Group clearly owns that was never in dispute until now. There was one earlier SCO trademark issue over UnixWare that was quickly cleared up, and (2) the Unix copyrights. These are currently owned by Novell as affirmed by 2 courts, but the appeal of the second trial is ongoing before the 10th Circuit. I know that The Open Group has sent a letter to Unxis. Unixs is currently NOT licensed to use the Unix or UnixWare trade names as, according to The Open Group, it was not transferrable, but Unxis could simply fill out a few forms. I don't see a serious issue here as it is a matter of filling out some forms and paying the fees. The intellectual property portion that Novell claims to own is still under appeal, and based on the past I doubt that they will succeed in the 10th Circuit appeal, but if they do, it will go back to Federal Court in Utah. If SCO decides to liquidate and terminate their litigation, then that would give Novell clear ownership of its IP. But, there was quite a bit of IP that was owned by SCO that now belongs to Unxis. We'll see what happens. PJ is having second thoughts and it does appear that Groklaw will not shutdown, but PJ will turn the reins over to someone else. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On Apr 15, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > I know that The Open Group has sent a letter to Unxis. Unixs is > currently NOT licensed to use the Unix or UnixWare trade names as, > according to The Open Group, it was not transferrable, but Unxis could > simply fill out a few forms. I don't see a serious issue here as it is a > matter of filling out some forms and paying the fees. That still leaves me with questions: Why hasn't UnXis filed those forms and fees? And why weren't those forms and fees filed when UnXis was created so that there would be no questions about what rights it has? Why hasn't UnXis withdrawn the SCO v. Novell appeal? Is The Open Group ready and willing to defend the UNIX trademarks? I can easily see newSCO2 trying to take a degree of ownership of UNIX through a trademark battle. The only significant difference that I can see between newSCO (Caldera) and newSCO2 (UnXis) right now is the absent Darl McBride and a different logo on the name badges. Heck, even the company's domain name screams it: unxisco.com -- UNIX is SCO. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Nagios, Gnome 3, Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop
Doug wrote: > How might people in Blu use the Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop on a home > network? Product specs are here: http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika which includes: * Freescale i.MX515 (ARM Cortex-A8 800MHz) * 3D Graphics Processing Unit * WXGA display support (HDMI) * Multi-format HD video decoder and D1 video encoder (currently not supported by the included software) * 512MB RAM * 8GB Internal SSD * 10/100Mbit/s Ethernet * 802.11 b/g/n WiFi * SDHC card reader * 2x USB 2.0 ports * Audio jacks for headset * Built-in speaker * Size: 160x115x20mm * Weight: 250 grams The obvious answer is all the same sorts of things you use any other appliance-like computer for: -router (would need a VLAN switch) -DNS/DHCP server -network monitoring/intrusion detector -dedicated syslog server (low volume) -VPN endpoint -home automation controller The problem is that it doesn't appear to be substantially better than any number of consumer router platforms that cost the same or less. For most of these applications, a $30 router appliance would do the job. Dan Ritter wrote: > If the video decoder worked, it might be a plausible front-end > for MythTV. That was my thought. The specs say, "Multi-format HD video decoder and D1 video encoder (currently not supported by the included software)." And what chipset? It just sounds like an uphill battle if you want hardware assisted video playback. Having 512MB RAM is also on the lean side for a full MythTV front-end. Even embedded appliances like the D-Link Boxee Box have 1 GB these days. Richard Pieri wrote: > ...the Smarttop file server would be just peachy as the > video file store. You would attach the drives via the 2 USB 2.0 ports? If it had a few port-multiplier compatible eSATA ports that you could wire to an external drive cage, and GB Ethernet, then it would make for a decent NAS controller. Otherwise you'd probably be better off with a hackable WD Mybook or the like. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On 04/15/2011 07:19 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Apr 15, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> I know that The Open Group has sent a letter to Unxis. Unixs is >> currently NOT licensed to use the Unix or UnixWare trade names as, >> according to The Open Group, it was not transferrable, but Unxis could >> simply fill out a few forms. I don't see a serious issue here as it is a >> matter of filling out some forms and paying the fees. > That still leaves me with questions: > > Why hasn't UnXis filed those forms and fees? And why weren't those forms and > fees filed when UnXis was created so that there would be no questions about > what rights it has? Not sure, possibly someone did not read all the important documents. IMHO, this is a minor issue that will be solved. > Why hasn't UnXis withdrawn the SCO v. Novell appeal? They do not have the right on the litigation. SCO is still a corporation and although they sold most of their assets, AFAIK, the litigations are still part of SCO. > Is The Open Group ready and willing to defend the UNIX trademarks? > > I can easily see newSCO2 trying to take a degree of ownership of UNIX through > a trademark battle. The only significant difference that I can see between > newSCO (Caldera) and newSCO2 (UnXis) right now is the absent Darl McBride and > a different logo on the name badges. Heck, even the company's domain name > screams it: unxisco.com -- UNIX is SCO. > Agreed. Basically as I read it, while Unxis bought the business they dod not inherit the existing litigation, including SCO vs. Novell and SCO vs. IBM (on hold). -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, April 20, 2011 Nagios, Gnome 3, Genesi's Efika MX Smarttop
On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Tom Metro wrote: > > You would attach the drives via the 2 USB 2.0 ports? That's the idea. > If it had a few port-multiplier compatible eSATA ports that you could > wire to an external drive cage, and GB Ethernet, then it would make for > a decent NAS controller. Otherwise you'd probably be better off with a > hackable WD Mybook or the like. Too much work to make it suitable. If I didn't already have the disks then sure, that would be a good option, but I do, and it would end up costing me more both in time and money to do that migration. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: Las Vegas firm buys Unix...
On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > Agreed. Basically as I read it, while Unxis bought the business they dod > not inherit the existing litigation, including SCO vs. Novell and SCO > vs. IBM (on hold). I still say that something stinks in newSCO2. Their claims of ownership of all of SCO's "key Unix Technologies, copyrights and ownership rights" fly in the face of the original SCO v. Novell ruling. These guys are acting like SCO has already won the appeal. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
